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Shadows of Self
« on: October 06, 2015, 09:51:53 AM »
Apparently the new Mistborn book, Shadows of Self, is out today!



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Shadows of Self shows Mistborn's society evolving as technology and magic mix, the economy grows, democracy contends with corruption, and religion becomes a growing cultural force, with four faiths competing for converts.

This bustling, optimistic, but still shaky society now faces its first instance of terrorism, crimes intended to stir up labor strife and religious conflict. Wax and Wayne, assisted by the lovely, brilliant Marasi, must unravel the conspiracy before civil strife stops Scadrial's progress in its tracks.

Shadows of Self
will give fans of The Alloy of Law everything they've been hoping for and, this being a Brandon Sanderson book, more, much more.

I had no idea it was coming out so soon. I think after I've finished WoT I'll read this next!
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2015, 10:24:40 AM »
I don't think it's out today in the UK.

I was toying with the idea of trying the 2nd Mistborn book of the original trilogy out. Not that I was that enthused about The Final Empire, but I do like the sound of these new ones and the plans he has for future versions of that world. Worth finishing the original trilogy if I wasn't massively keen on the first one? (Should point out I really enjoyed Way of Kings, found Warbreaker pretty awful, and obviously loved his Wheel of Time books)
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2015, 10:39:24 AM »
Even Sanderson's worst books tend to get an 8/10 for me. I think the worst book of his I've read is The Final Empire, but even that wasn't 'bad' (I think I gave it an 8/10 back in 2010, but I'd probably give it a 7.5/10 by today's standards - now I've raised my bar somewhat).

I quite enjoyed Warbreaker (although I must admit that I listened to the Graphic Audio version) and Elantris. I really liked The Way of Kings. Felt Mistborn 2 was the best, 3 was very good and The Alloy of Law was a good start that needed to be built on. The Reckoners books have been enjoyable, but throwaway - a good way to spend a weekend - but nothing more than that.

I have a huge TBR list, but this is near the top simply because his books are so readable that it'll only take me a day or two to finish it :)
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2015, 10:43:09 AM »
I don't think it's out today in the UK.

I was toying with the idea of trying the 2nd Mistborn book of the original trilogy out. Not that I was that enthused about The Final Empire, but I do like the sound of these new ones and the plans he has for future versions of that world. Worth finishing the original trilogy if I wasn't massively keen on the first one? (Should point out I really enjoyed Way of Kings, found Warbreaker pretty awful, and obviously loved his Wheel of Time books)
Yeah looks like it's the 15th in the UK actually. Stupid staggered releases.  >:(

Not sure really, people seem to have very disparate reactions to them! I liked the first one a lot, thought the second one had some great moments but lower quality overall, and liked the third roughly as much as the first. It's definitely worth a try though I think, you might like them.  :P
 
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2015, 10:46:16 AM »
Yeah looks like it's the 15th in the UK actually. Stupid staggered releases.  >:(
Book Depository says 8th...

Anyway, just ordered th UK version because the other is too ugly (alas, my Mistborn books look like that...).
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2015, 10:51:02 AM »
I quite enjoyed Warbreaker (although I must admit that I listened to the Graphic Audio version) and Elantris.

The Graphic Audio version probably helped more than you think.  ;) I found there to be a noticeable drop in quality for that book and am constantly surprised by how highly some of his fans seem to rate it and desperately want a sequel. I might try the GA version of Elantris - would you recommend it?

It's definitely worth a try though I think, you might like them.  :P

You'd almost think I was fussy or something.  ::)
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2015, 10:57:16 AM »
Yeah looks like it's the 15th in the UK actually. Stupid staggered releases.  >:(
Book Depository says 8th...

Anyway, just ordered th UK version because the other is too ugly (alas, my Mistborn books look like that...).
I checked amazon.co.uk, so that could be hopelessly wrong.

We have all the cosmere books in that matching style, really nice covers!

I quite enjoyed Warbreaker (although I must admit that I listened to the Graphic Audio version) and Elantris.
The Graphic Audio version probably helped more than you think.  ;) I found there to be a noticeable drop in quality for that book and am constantly surprised by how highly some of his fans seem to rate it and desperately want a sequel. I might try the GA version of Elantris - would you recommend it?
Have you tried reading Elantris? I thought it was a lot worse than any of the other Sanderson books. Warbreaker wasn't brilliant, but it was better than Elantris imo!

It's definitely worth a try though I think, you might like them.  :P
You'd almost think I was fussy or something.  ::)
Hey, it pays to be discerning.  8)
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2015, 11:00:55 AM »
Have you tried reading Elantris? I thought it was a lot worse than any of the other Sanderson books. Warbreaker wasn't brilliant, but it was better than Elantris imo!

Nope! Warbreaker put me right off trying anything else of his earlier output. That's why I'm thinking trying out the Graphic Audio production might not be such a bad idea...

I checked amazon.co.uk, so that could be hopelessly wrong.

I'm not sure when it's out in the UK, just meant it probably wouldn't be out today either way as Tuesday is US publishing day and Thursday is UK typically.
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2015, 11:08:36 AM »
Have you tried reading Elantris? I thought it was a lot worse than any of the other Sanderson books. Warbreaker wasn't brilliant, but it was better than Elantris imo!
Nope! Warbreaker put me right off trying anything else of his earlier output. That's why I'm thinking trying out the Graphic Audio production might not be such a bad idea...
Yeah fair enough! I've never tried any of those, though I did listen to a quick sample and found it extremely odd.  :o

I checked amazon.co.uk, so that could be hopelessly wrong.
I'm not sure when it's out in the UK, just meant it probably wouldn't be out today either way as Tuesday is US publishing day and Thursday is UK typically.
Well if xiagan is right then it's this Thursday, if amazon is right then it's a week later.  :P
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2015, 11:16:48 AM »
I quite enjoyed Warbreaker (although I must admit that I listened to the Graphic Audio version) and Elantris.

The Graphic Audio version probably helped more than you think.  ;) I found there to be a noticeable drop in quality for that book and am constantly surprised by how highly some of his fans seem to rate it and desperately want a sequel. I might try the GA version of Elantris - would you recommend it?

It's definitely worth a try though I think, you might like them.  :P

You'd almost think I was fussy or something.  ::)

I really liked Elantris and thought the GA versions of both titles were very good. I think, of the two, you will probably like Elantris more, but it certainly isn't a gritty epic fantasy, or even The Way of Kings. I'm currently reading The Traitor Baru Cormorant and really enjoying it, but if I think back to the differences between this and some of Sanderson's work then there is no denying that they are huge and so I can see how Sanderson, as an author, may not appeal to everyone. I think he writes with a style that isn't quite Young Adult, but he certainly holds your hand and takes his time building the world around you. I think the weaknesses in his writing come when he does this with his characters - i.e. he starts to REALLY try show you a character's nature through excessive or over the top (verging silly)  description/dialogue.
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2015, 11:26:09 AM »
I really liked Elantris and thought the GA versions of both titles were very good. I think, of the two, you will probably like Elantris more, but it certainly isn't a gritty epic fantasy, or even The Way of Kings. I'm currently reading The Traitor Baru Cormorant and really enjoying it, but if I think back to the differences between this and some of Sanderson's work then there is no denying that they are huge and so I can see how Sanderson, as an author, may not appeal to everyone. I think he writes with a style that isn't quite Young Adult, but he certainly holds your hand and takes his time building the world around you. I think the weaknesses in his writing come when he does this with his characters - i.e. he starts to REALLY try show you a character's nature through excessive or over the top (verging silly)  description/dialogue.

I think you've nailed it there. In The Way of Kings I felt he really applied some of what he'd learned writing the final Wheel of Time books, and as a result it read as a bit more mature than his earlier books. (Which bodes well for present and future novels as he gets better and better) Some of the dialogue and even the prose in Warbreaker made me cringe and seriously consider dropping it entirely. His strengths without a doubt have always been his plots, pacing and worlds - luckily he seems to be improving as a writer.

(P.S. I really wanna read The Traitor Baru Cormorant - surprise surprise - that original US title is so much better than the shortened UK one!)
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2015, 11:40:41 AM »
I'm not that keen on reading this second (?) Mistborn trilogy, as apparently it's set in a 'fake' 19th century America?
A period/location that doesn't attract me at all...
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2015, 11:46:33 AM »
I'm not that keen on reading this second (?) Mistborn trilogy, as apparently it's set in a 'fake' 19th century America?
A period/location that doesn't attract me at all...
Mmh sort of. It's as much a fake 19th century America as the original trilogy is a fake medieval Europe - especially in terms of technological advances and that kind of thing. I'm not a big fan of the period either, but actually thought the world was one of the better parts of Alloy of Law.
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2015, 11:49:51 AM »
I'm not that keen on reading this second (?) Mistborn trilogy, as apparently it's set in a 'fake' 19th century America?
A period/location that doesn't attract me at all...

I like the sound of it and his plans for moving even further into the future of that world, because I have enough epic fantasy series' that stay infinitely in some sort of feudal medieval/early modern world that never moves on. It sounds like a fun idea to me and something different.
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Re: Shadows of Self
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2015, 02:01:39 PM »
The Kindle version is listed as $14.99, as much as I want to read it I will be waiting for a more reasonable price.

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