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Re: Series Suggestion
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2019, 01:56:29 AM »
That one would be very much a matter of taste. Magician feels like a very big, very traditional fantasy adventure. Magicians and dragons and elves and everything. I was going to recommend it.

The Black Company feels a bit atypical. Its all about a mercenary company, the fantasy elements feel different, and the writing style is pretty stark.

If you're looking for something a bit different, I'd read Black Company first.

Thanks Peat, I love Dragons, and magic, and swords. :) Black company is in my list since I heard that Erikson was influenced by it. (Malazan is my all time favorite series).

I do not mind a series to be traditional. For example, Sword of Shannara was a bit like a "child story" and I think I missed the ages that I could enjoy the books. It might be me but I think it was lacking some complexity (not sure of the correct word).

I hate quit reading a book so I became very picky lately :)

I can very much understand where you're coming from. And in this scenario, I'd recommend reading The Black Company first. I love Magician, but it does have something of a YA-vibe. Not as bad as SoS, and its roughly on the same level as Eddings, but the something different might help.

Other than that, His Dark Materials is a personal favourite (aimed at teenagers, but not short on complexity) and The Band seems to hit a lot of the same notes you mentioned.

Other books/series you might want to investigate -

Daggerspell (book 1 of the Deverry Cycle) by Katherine Kerr - its very much in the 80s/90s tradition of a lot of the books you like, but with a big Celtic vibe and a very grandiose plot due to reincarnation. This is a completed series (well, group of mini-series, first one is 4 books and the whole lot is 20 odd books in total)

Age of Assassins (book 1 of the Wounded Kingdoms) by RJ Barker - It reminds me a lot of the classic Epic Fantasies I grew up on with a modern touch and cynicism. Particularly recommended if you like getting some Detective fiction on your fantasy. Its book 1 of a completed trilogy.

Furies of Calderon (book 1 of the Codex Alera) by Jim Butcher - It's a big fun Epic Fantasy series with a lot of fresh takes on the genre classics (it combines the idea of Roman Legions and Pokemon in a good way). Book 1 of a... 6 book? 7 book? I think 6 book series. And completed!


How do you feel about standalone fantasy books?

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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2019, 09:10:57 AM »
Kings of the wyld first, because it is a standalone that just so happens to have a second book. And that second book stands alone too.

It's hilarious and refreshing because it embraces and pisses on all the tropes in turn. Of all the books you have it'll take you the least time.

Started it to taste it a little. This is all Heroes Might and Magic game and I LOVE HEROES :) Started brilliant, I hope it keeps the pace. Thanks for the suggestion (you told me to thank you later :) )
Kallor shrugged. 'I've walked this land when the T'lan Imass were but children. I've commanded armies a hundred thousand strong. I've spread the fire of my wrath across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones. Do you grasp the meaning of this?'

'Yes' said Caladan Brood. 'You never learn'

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« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2019, 09:12:15 AM »
From your list I'd choose

  • Night Angel (Brent Weeks)
  • The Broken Empire (Mark Lawrence)
  • His Dark Materials (Philip Pullman)
  • Riyria Revelations (Michael Sullivan)
  • Copper Promise (Jen Williams)

(the ones I've read)

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Let's start a poll and see how it results :)
Kallor shrugged. 'I've walked this land when the T'lan Imass were but children. I've commanded armies a hundred thousand strong. I've spread the fire of my wrath across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones. Do you grasp the meaning of this?'

'Yes' said Caladan Brood. 'You never learn'

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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2019, 09:12:47 AM »
I just bought Kings of the Wyld now.  8)

I started it too, hope you like it as much as I do :)
Kallor shrugged. 'I've walked this land when the T'lan Imass were but children. I've commanded armies a hundred thousand strong. I've spread the fire of my wrath across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones. Do you grasp the meaning of this?'

'Yes' said Caladan Brood. 'You never learn'

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« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2019, 09:15:42 AM »
After reading your suggestions and searching around the Internet, I have collected following books:
  • Sword of Shannara (Terry Brooks)

If you're going to start into the Shannara fantasy books (Brooks' Word and Void series, which is urban fantasy, is also great) I'd recommend staring with The Elfstones of Shannara (Brooks' second book) over Sword.

The first three Shannara books all stand alone, but I think Elfstones is the superior book of the two, as Sword is commonly represented as a beat-for-beat recreation of Lord of the Rings. While I love Terry Brooks' work (especially his more recent stuff) I definitely feel like Elfstones is a better book to start with - and most writers improve after their debut.

So if you start with Elfstones, you can always go back and read Sword later if you like it.

That's great advice, thank you. I have all 3 books, started the first one but it was a bit childish and I also read about all those critics about the first book of being a copycat of LoTR (some argued it has more essence though).

I'll give it a second chance per your advice. Thanks again :)
Kallor shrugged. 'I've walked this land when the T'lan Imass were but children. I've commanded armies a hundred thousand strong. I've spread the fire of my wrath across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones. Do you grasp the meaning of this?'

'Yes' said Caladan Brood. 'You never learn'

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« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2019, 09:23:51 AM »
That one would be very much a matter of taste. Magician feels like a very big, very traditional fantasy adventure. Magicians and dragons and elves and everything. I was going to recommend it.

The Black Company feels a bit atypical. Its all about a mercenary company, the fantasy elements feel different, and the writing style is pretty stark.

If you're looking for something a bit different, I'd read Black Company first.

Thanks Peat, I love Dragons, and magic, and swords. :) Black company is in my list since I heard that Erikson was influenced by it. (Malazan is my all time favorite series).

I do not mind a series to be traditional. For example, Sword of Shannara was a bit like a "child story" and I think I missed the ages that I could enjoy the books. It might be me but I think it was lacking some complexity (not sure of the correct word).

I hate quit reading a book so I became very picky lately :)

I can very much understand where you're coming from. And in this scenario, I'd recommend reading The Black Company first. I love Magician, but it does have something of a YA-vibe. Not as bad as SoS, and its roughly on the same level as Eddings, but the something different might help.

Other than that, His Dark Materials is a personal favourite (aimed at teenagers, but not short on complexity) and The Band seems to hit a lot of the same notes you mentioned.

Other books/series you might want to investigate -

Daggerspell (book 1 of the Deverry Cycle) by Katherine Kerr - its very much in the 80s/90s tradition of a lot of the books you like, but with a big Celtic vibe and a very grandiose plot due to reincarnation. This is a completed series (well, group of mini-series, first one is 4 books and the whole lot is 20 odd books in total)

Age of Assassins (book 1 of the Wounded Kingdoms) by RJ Barker - It reminds me a lot of the classic Epic Fantasies I grew up on with a modern touch and cynicism. Particularly recommended if you like getting some Detective fiction on your fantasy. Its book 1 of a completed trilogy.

Furies of Calderon (book 1 of the Codex Alera) by Jim Butcher - It's a big fun Epic Fantasy series with a lot of fresh takes on the genre classics (it combines the idea of Roman Legions and Pokemon in a good way). Book 1 of a... 6 book? 7 book? I think 6 book series. And completed!


How do you feel about standalone fantasy books?

I love Eddings! I mean, I LOVE Eddings :) (though I felt like he started repeating himself in his later books).

I just started The Band and it was very fluent. Will try Magician after that.

The thing is, after reading some recommended books and finding them not-for-me, I was a little bit despaired. I started to think, "is this all I can read, will I not feel pumped up again?". I don't know if this sounds silly but this was how I felt. I had headaches, stopped reading for a while. But now I feel well again, thanks to you all :)

For standalone books, I never tried standalones in fantasy. I heard about Goblin King, I have it too but did not try. I am not prejudiced, but never tried. (Read several world classics, tho)
Kallor shrugged. 'I've walked this land when the T'lan Imass were but children. I've commanded armies a hundred thousand strong. I've spread the fire of my wrath across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones. Do you grasp the meaning of this?'

'Yes' said Caladan Brood. 'You never learn'

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Re: Series Suggestion
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2019, 09:43:27 AM »
There is plenty out there. The fact you don't read standalone is already and great limitation, but even in series, don't worry, there is way more out there than we can ever recommend you, you'll never really run out of things to read.

Mind you, opening up to Sci-fi and weird fiction can also broaden your horizons, give you more to chose from.
Like you said, it's all about trying. You have time, just give a shot to new things.

As for Kings of the wyld, don't worry, the pace stays in high gear and things just get wilder (hehe). I was riveted and in hysterics from start to finish.
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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2019, 11:45:23 AM »
For standalone books, I never tried standalones in fantasy. I heard about Goblin King, I have it too but did not try. I am not prejudiced, but never tried. (Read several world classics, tho)

Prejudiced against Goblins?  :o
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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2019, 11:48:29 AM »
For standalone books, I never tried standalones in fantasy. I heard about Goblin King, I have it too but did not try. I am not prejudiced, but never tried. (Read several world classics, tho)

Prejudiced against Goblins?  :o

Nope, I meant  I am NOT prejudiced to standalone books. I heard about Goblins, collected it but did not have a chance to start reading.
Kallor shrugged. 'I've walked this land when the T'lan Imass were but children. I've commanded armies a hundred thousand strong. I've spread the fire of my wrath across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones. Do you grasp the meaning of this?'

'Yes' said Caladan Brood. 'You never learn'

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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2019, 11:51:57 AM »
David Gemmel is always a classic. Druss, Jon Shannow and Skilgannon books are awesome. Jon Shannow, especially.

Someone mentioned Divine Cities. Seconded. Awesome series.

And sice you liked Malazan, have you finished the prequel trilogies? PotA and Kharkanas?
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« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2019, 12:33:04 PM »

I love Eddings! I mean, I LOVE Eddings :) (though I felt like he started repeating himself in his later books).

I just started The Band and it was very fluent. Will try Magician after that.

The thing is, after reading some recommended books and finding them not-for-me, I was a little bit despaired. I started to think, "is this all I can read, will I not feel pumped up again?". I don't know if this sounds silly but this was how I felt. I had headaches, stopped reading for a while. But now I feel well again, thanks to you all :)

For standalone books, I never tried standalones in fantasy. I heard about Goblin King, I have it too but did not try. I am not prejudiced, but never tried. (Read several world classics, tho)

Hah! Yes. I lost interest in Eddings after one too many repetitions, but very much enjoyed his work before then.

In any case - you'll always have streaks where the books you pick up on recommendations don't satisfy. Even when you know your preferences very well. But there's definitely enough books you'll love out there to get you going again.

On standalones - that adds a lot of good possibilities to the pot, such as Guy Gavriel Kay's Tigana and also a number of series that are more related standalones than actual series, such as David Gemmell's Drenai and Rigante series, and Max Gladstone's Craft Sequence.
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« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2019, 04:34:06 PM »
Has anyone whatched Shannara Chronicles TV adaptation? I think it starts with second book (Elfstones) just like @tebakutis told me :) Any thoughts about the show? Is it waste of time or fun to watch? Maybe I can watch the show instead of reading the books :)
Kallor shrugged. 'I've walked this land when the T'lan Imass were but children. I've commanded armies a hundred thousand strong. I've spread the fire of my wrath across entire continents, and sat alone upon tall thrones. Do you grasp the meaning of this?'

'Yes' said Caladan Brood. 'You never learn'

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« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2019, 11:39:01 PM »
Has anyone whatched Shannara Chronicles TV adaptation? I think it starts with second book (Elfstones) just like @tebakutis told me :) Any thoughts about the show? Is it waste of time or fun to watch? Maybe I can watch the show instead of reading the books :)

Ha! I would suggest skipping the TV show entirely. It was goofy, cheesy, took the coolest elements of the books and made them ridiculous, and will basically spoil all the cool things.

Don't watch the TV show :P

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« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2019, 04:14:09 AM »
Has anyone whatched Shannara Chronicles TV adaptation? I think it starts with second book (Elfstones) just like @tebakutis told me :) Any thoughts about the show? Is it waste of time or fun to watch? Maybe I can watch the show instead of reading the books :)

Ha! I would suggest skipping the TV show entirely. It was goofy, cheesy, took the coolest elements of the books and made them ridiculous, and will basically spoil all the cool things.

Don't watch the TV show :P
I’ll agree with @tebakutis about the Shannara show. Awful. Not even Manu Bennet and John Rhys Davies could redeem it.
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« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2019, 04:36:30 PM »
Has anyone whatched Shannara Chronicles TV adaptation? I think it starts with second book (Elfstones) just like @tebakutis told me :) Any thoughts about the show? Is it waste of time or fun to watch? Maybe I can watch the show instead of reading the books :)

Ha! I would suggest skipping the TV show entirely. It was goofy, cheesy, took the coolest elements of the books and made them ridiculous, and will basically spoil all the cool things.

Don't watch the TV show :P
I’ll agree with @tebakutis about the Shannara show. Awful. Not even Manu Bennet and John Rhys Davies could redeem it.

I really enjoyed the tv series. It did start of pretty cheesy, but the second season was so much darker. I think it's different enough to the books that you could watch it as a separate entity. That's how I treated it.