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Offline Sensei

Re: Ebooks over Paperbacks
« Reply #75 on: January 24, 2013, 10:13:25 AM »
For ease and practicality, an ebook wins hands down. (It's  easier to manage on a packed train). However, when sitting down on my comfy sofa on a staturday morning, a real book in my hands just feel right. I hope theres room in the book world for both formats as it would be a shame to lose out on either

Offline Mark Lawrence

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« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2013, 10:43:31 AM »
Just for info:

My books sell between a third and a half more copies in both hardback and paperback than they do in ebook form. Of course the fact that many people will steal the ebook rather than pay for it may mean that more people read them in e-copy than paper.

To discover the true figures we need to make paper copy easy to steal & I don't mean just 'come in and help yourself gratis off the shelf' I mean - we'll rush your stolen copies to your doorstep in moments. Then we'd see.

Offline Cindy

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« Reply #77 on: January 24, 2013, 02:33:38 PM »
For me, paperbacks will win anytime. I love the feel of them, the covers, seeing them on my shelf...
I have e-books and sure, reading on a tablet is easy and it has a lot of advantages, but for me, they can't compete with the feeling of a real book in my hands.

Offline SYBIL

Re: Ebooks over Paperbacks
« Reply #78 on: January 24, 2013, 03:17:26 PM »
Just for info:

My books sell between a third and a half more copies in both hardback and paperback than they do in ebook form. Of course the fact that many people will steal the ebook rather than pay for it may mean that more people read them in e-copy than paper.

To discover the true figures we need to make paper copy easy to steal & I don't mean just 'come in and help yourself gratis off the shelf' I mean - we'll rush your stolen copies to your doorstep in moments. Then we'd see.

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Offline The Kyngdoms

Re: Ebooks over Paperbacks
« Reply #79 on: January 24, 2013, 10:20:08 PM »
I just got a kindle for Christmas and am enjoying using it.  I've traditionally been a paperback reader but found switching to the kindle pretty easy.  In most respects it's just like reading a book.  The thing I found the most difficult to overcome was not knowing how long the next chapter was.  There's a bar telling you how far through the novel you are, but no way of knowing how long the next chapter is without skipping forward one page at a time.  I tend to read by the chapter, so this was a little irritating.

I also picked up a magazine for the kindle to give it a whirl and it's worked out fine.  There's no art at all.  It's just 100% stories and articles.  Works pretty well.

Offline JonRock411

Re: Ebooks over Paperbacks
« Reply #80 on: January 25, 2013, 02:15:41 AM »
Ah, the eternal argument.     Well for me, I almost always prefer hardcovers simply due to the feel but that's not a choice so the game does come down to Ebooks or Paperbacks.   

While I can see the pros of Ebooks and I have a few myself, (for example my copy of The Blade Itself),  despite the fact that they are easy to carry with you, allow me to read them on my phone or computer and I have less worry about them being "out of stock".     Plus they're cheaper which is helpful for someone like me.

On the other hand,  I have an almost adoration of physical copies of books,  for one I find them easier to read.  There's something about seeing a percentage that drives me crazy with wondering when it would end that page numbers don't do.  (Most likely because page numbers don't have a set limit while a percentage does).    Also there is of course the fine smell of the pages.     Though this does lead to things like me packing up three times as many boxes of books than I did of clothes when I moved last month.

Offline CatLangford

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« Reply #81 on: January 25, 2013, 03:06:53 AM »
I think if eBooks were to really take off, they would have to be sold around the 99p mark (I dunno what that is in dollars, probably $1.30 or something)
It just seems silly to me to charge £14 for a hardcover and £10 for an eBook when you don't get the physical copy, and, thinking about it, you could set up an eBook for sale using just one person. Which means the profit margins on eBooks must be phenomenal.

I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on this point. While £14 is certainly too much to pay for a novel in ebook form, it takes more than one person to set up an ebook for sale. No matter what form you publish a book in, it still needs to be edited, proofread, and formatted; a cover needs to be produced; it needs to be distributed in some way (either book distributor and book store, or online retailer); and of course the author deserves to be paid a decent amount of money per copy sold. All of that costs money that needs to be built into the cost of the book.

The ebook publishing industry would be unsustainable if everything were sold at 99c or a similar low price. There's nothing wrong with selling a few things at that price using the "loss leader" strategy, but that's exactly what those books would be - a loss. Amazon's target of $2.99 to $9.99 is just right. Depending on length and genre, the majority of novels ought to be somewhere in that range.
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Offline SYBIL

Re: Ebooks over Paperbacks
« Reply #82 on: January 25, 2013, 04:18:37 AM »

On the other hand,  I have an almost adoration of physical copies of books,  for one I find them easier to read.  There's something about seeing a percentage that drives me crazy with wondering when it would end that page numbers don't do.  (Most likely because page numbers don't have a set limit while a percentage does).    Also there is of course the fine smell of the pages.     Though this does lead to things like me packing up three times as many boxes of books than I did of clothes when I moved last month.

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Offline SYBIL

Re: Ebooks over Paperbacks
« Reply #83 on: January 25, 2013, 04:19:33 AM »
I think if eBooks were to really take off, they would have to be sold around the 99p mark (I dunno what that is in dollars, probably $1.30 or something)
It just seems silly to me to charge £14 for a hardcover and £10 for an eBook when you don't get the physical copy, and, thinking about it, you could set up an eBook for sale using just one person. Which means the profit margins on eBooks must be phenomenal.

I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on this point. While £14 is certainly too much to pay for a novel in ebook form, it takes more than one person to set up an ebook for sale. No matter what form you publish a book in, it still needs to be edited, proofread, and formatted; a cover needs to be produced; it needs to be distributed in some way (either book distributor and book store, or online retailer); and of course the author deserves to be paid a decent amount of money per copy sold. All of that costs money that needs to be built into the cost of the book.

The ebook publishing industry would be unsustainable if everything were sold at 99c or a similar low price. There's nothing wrong with selling a few things at that price using the "loss leader" strategy, but that's exactly what those books would be - a loss. Amazon's target of $2.99 to $9.99 is just right. Depending on length and genre, the majority of novels ought to be somewhere in that range.

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Offline AlmightyZael

Re: Ebooks over Paperbacks
« Reply #84 on: January 25, 2013, 02:48:07 PM »
Fair enough.

I still think that eBooks should be a lot cheaper than that though. Anything that exists purely in digital form (and only rented to boot) shouldn't cost that much. That's just the way I feel about it, no amount of justification will make me feel any differently. I think £3 is acceptable, which I'm basing on a purely digital market (any bets on when that will be? :/ ) in which case they spend nothing on printing costs and such :) Sorry about the confusion.

The idea about more than one person I will give you. Though, I thought all they did was scan the text and there was some kind of word-pick-up software that digitized all the text. Then they format it and what not - so aside from the copy-editing, proof-reading and all those editorial things that are necessary for the paperback/hardback to exist in the first place, then it's only gotta be a couple of people in charge of the eBook version.

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« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2013, 11:34:48 PM »
What irritates me is the VAT on ebooks but not paperbacks/hardbacks.
If physical books are VAT free, so should ebooks be VAT free.


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« Reply #86 on: September 18, 2019, 07:56:46 AM »
I'm curious what everyone thinks about paperbacks and eBooks. I know most of you lean toward paperbacks, and I do too, but in terms of practicality, I'd have to give it to eBooks.

I can read in the evening without using a lamp, I don't need bookmarks, I can never really lose the eBook (unless I lose both my computer and Kindle and my sister's iPad), and depending on when I buy them, they can be really cheap.

However, if I were to just make a poll out of this, paperbacks would win hands down, so I want to hear the merits of each from all of you fine people... And Shep... ( Just kidding, of course -  ;) ) since I'm curious about the thoughts of others on these two ways of reading.

I lean to ebooks but I love paper books too. Yep can’t use a bookmark in an ebook.
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Re: Ebooks over Paperbacks
« Reply #87 on: September 19, 2019, 12:42:49 AM »
I lean to ebooks but I love paper books too. Yep can’t use a bookmark in an ebook.

You can, it's just a different kind  ::)
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Offline isos81

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« Reply #88 on: September 19, 2019, 07:57:41 AM »
I lean to ebooks but I love paper books too. Yep can’t use a bookmark in an ebook.

You can, it's just a different kind  ::)

And you can use underline, too. And search them! That's something you can't do in paper books :)
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