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Title: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Overlord on January 07, 2011, 11:14:49 AM
So... who is the most evil character you have read about in a Fantasy novel?
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: missoularedhead on January 07, 2011, 08:48:51 PM
OOOh, that's tough.  Largely because most 'evil' characters have some reason for being evil.  Sauron comes to mind, though.  Not a single redeeming quality I can think of. 
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Bryndled1 on January 08, 2011, 04:52:33 AM
I have to vote for Emperor Jagang from The sword of truth series.

#1 Believes that any evil action is justified for the greater good as he sees it
#2 Encourages the basest impulses of his men as long as they serve him to the death
#3 Tortures any mind that has magical abilities so they are forced to serve him against their will
#4 Repeatedly rapes and nearly beats to death the "love" of his life and blames her for making him do it
#5 supports Ja'La a game encourage to maim or kill people. the loosing team gets flogged unless its HIS team and then they are all beheaded.
#6 when he discovers the Ja'La ball has been changed by his adversay so that children can play looses a deadly plague among the kids.

I could go on and on about atrocities commited by this character however truly the scariest part about jagang is his absolute belief that he is a hero and a knight in shining armor to the poor and huddled masses. neverminding the fact that he made them all poor and huddled.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Overlord on January 08, 2011, 05:52:28 AM
It's quite a hard one, because most evil characters tend to have a 'good' side to them eventually.

The Godking in 'The Night Angel' trilogy was pretty damned evil... but in saying that, you could argue that 'Roth' was just as bad... if not worse, he just had less power to use his 'evilness'.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: jswinds on January 10, 2011, 08:58:14 AM
Sauron comes to mind, though.  Not a single redeeming quality I can think of.  

Sauron is obviously the good guy!  The Lord of the Rings is the great fictional Marxist tragedy of our time. Party Chairman Sauron obviously wants to liberate Middle Earth. His Five Year Plans, as seen working in Mordor, will rapidly push forward economic industrialization across the entire continent. Sauron's enemies ( who we are tricked into assuming are the good guys ) are decadent, aristocratic Gondorians who are concerned with maintaining the feudal status-quo reminiscent of medieval Europe; ensuring their own families positions permanently at the top of the pile, keeping the traditional labourers in their menial positions.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: pornokitsch on January 10, 2011, 06:15:18 PM
jswinds: Nice!

I'm going with Vaatzes from KJ Parker's Engineer Trilogy. He's the protagonist. And he's empathetic. But he's a terrible, terrible person.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: billdoor on January 12, 2011, 01:28:59 PM
Sauron's enemies ( who we are tricked into assuming are the good guys ) are decadent, aristocratic Gondorians who are concerned with maintaining the feudal status-quo reminiscent of medieval Europe; ensuring their own families positions permanently at the top of the pile, keeping the traditional labourers in their menial positions.

"Help help I'm being repressed, come and see the violence inherent in the system!"
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Vryka on January 26, 2011, 05:12:08 AM
Personally I think that the Imperator Kurkas Aan in Karen Wehrstein's Philospher in Arms and my Eclipse Court is the most evil.  But then I'm biased.

I'm just given the whillies by an emotional two year old with ultimate power in a fifty-three year old man's body.  He seens no one else as real.

To quote a certain cartoon duck: "But I'm different from everybody else! Pain hurts ME!"
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: The Mad Hatter on January 26, 2011, 06:53:45 AM

The Limper - Glen Cook's The Black Company Series Books 1 to 3.5

Wayne aka The Mad Hatter
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: TankSpill on January 27, 2011, 03:52:07 PM
Though I agree with a previous poster that Jagang, from SoT was pretty evil-ish, I just have a hard time taking seriously anything that Goodkind writes. 

For me, for pure, undiluted evil, Pryrates from Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn takes the cake.  He's very obviously in it for nothing but the Ultimate Cosmic Power, and will crush anything (including puppy heads :( ) that stands in his way.

Padan Fain from WoT is showing himself to be pretty durned evil, though insane also definitely fits the bill with him.

And then there's the world-consuming evil of villains like the Valheru in the Riftwar Saga

And finally, there's the kind of evil that human minds can't understand - various "Dark Ones," "Dark Lords," whathaveyou in fantasy that play the role of the opposite of God.  The Elder Things in Lovecraftian mythos.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Mark Lawrence on January 29, 2011, 03:52:03 PM
So... who is the most evil character you have read about in a Fantasy novel?

Tough question. A lot of fantasy characters are evil because they were made that way - they're demons, or dark overlords like Lord Foul or Sauron. They might do a lot of evil things, the head count and the nastiness might be very high & they can be great fun to read about, but I don't think they count as the most evil. For me the characters that really make me feel it are the ones who are most like us, who have true choices, true chances at redemption, and carry on anyhow. Steerpike from Peake's 'Gormenghast', and Alex from Burgess' 'A Clockwork Orange' spring to mind. 'Real' people who interact with other real people on a very human level - and then get nasty.

Though going back on that, Randal Flagg from King's 'The Stand' was great :)

Mark
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Rhevian on January 29, 2011, 06:52:05 PM
Oh yes, I like he suggestion of Steerpike here.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Zefiris on January 29, 2011, 06:57:18 PM
Not a book so it may not count but Warren from Buffy springs to mind.

Here's a kid who can do whatever he wants. Super intelligent, good at making machines he could get a well paid job and make a fortune with an honest living (seriously, the government would pay millions for some of his inventions)

Yet, he decides to use his abilities for crime, to take the easy option to riches. Plus, over the course of Series Six he slowly becomes more and more evil, sending a demon to kill Buffy, trying to kill Buffy with the invisibility ray, planning to frame Jonathan, murdering his ex-girlfriend and framing Buffy for it and eventually, shooting Buffy and Tara.

All the while he shows no regret over any of his actions and only cares about himself.

He's an awesome character and his evilness is all because of his own selfish actions. He wasn't born evil like some characters, isn't a demon, didn't have a particularly bad upbringing etc and doesn't really have any redeeming qualities at all.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: kevinjamesbreaux on January 29, 2011, 08:40:33 PM
Skeletor!  I mean that guy is just plain bad. Look at the company he keeps. Beast-Man, Clawful, Whiplash and Stinkor!  Yeah, Stinkor alone, you have to be plain evil to hang with that smelly bastard.  If we wasn't evil enough as Keldor, the guy lost his face trying to smite good King Randor!  He has my vote, with Mum Ra the Everliving getting a close second. 

:)

Kevin James Breaux
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: professional-liar on January 29, 2011, 09:53:33 PM
Skeletor!  I mean that guy is just plain bad. Look at the company he keeps. Beast-Man, Clawful, Whiplash and Stinkor!  Yeah, Stinkor alone, you have to be plain evil to hang with that smelly bastard.  If we wasn't evil enough as Keldor, the guy lost his face trying to smite good King Randor!  He has my vote, with Mum Ra the Everliving getting a close second. 

:)

Kevin James Breaux

I think whoever gave Stinkor his name is evil.  He obviously can't help it.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: The Mad Hatter on January 29, 2011, 11:47:51 PM
So... who is the most evil character you have read about in a Fantasy novel?

OK, how about Falconsbane (http://www.last.fm/music/Michael+Longcor/_/Falconsbane) (link takes you to Last.FM where there's a filk song written and sung by Michael Longcor about the character).

Wayne aka The Mad Hatter
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: eclipse on December 06, 2015, 03:02:35 PM
Any new contenders  ;D
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Rostum on December 06, 2015, 06:48:01 PM
I think part of my re-ignited interest in the Genre was moving away from the good vs evil.
White hats vs black hats got very boring. The good guys killing things and stealing stuff never made one jot of moral sense.
I like a character who will sacrifice anything or one to achieve their aims. Not inherently evil but prepared to do monsterous things to acheive their goals.

Hence why I am waiting on a number of authors to release books next year.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: eclipse on December 06, 2015, 06:52:49 PM
I think raistlin was quite an evil bugger
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Lanko on December 06, 2015, 07:04:55 PM
Not exactly, "most evil in all Fantasy', but from what I read this year:

- From Harry Potter, Dolores Umbridge made me more furious than Voldemort/Snape/Percy and Harry's parents combined.
I think that while we expect the big powerful dude to abuse people, it really hits a nerve when a common person abuses her power and authority for their own sheer delight against people who can't react in any way.
Even worse when it's someone not allied with the villain in any way (in fact, someone who was supposed to be fighting him and thought was doing so), doing things that you didn't even saw the villain doing.

- From the Farseer Trilogy: Regal in book 2.
Has his own father slowly killed, runs in delight when he hears about Kettricken having an abortion, the way how he killed Fitz, all the while destroying his own kingdom. Unfortunanely, I don't like how he was presented in book 3. One could also say about the characters passivity in book 2, but Regal was at the top of his game in that one. 


- From Prince of Thorns trilogy: King Olidan. Tries to kill his own son and the dog scene, of course.
I even thought he was the one who had raped Katherine, just to turn her against Jorg. Jorg x Olidan should have fought, even if he refused to kill his father, if only to make him live in shame or to show how well he learned his "lessons".

- From Chronicles of Arthur, from Bernard Cornwell: Lancelot. Nothing so infuriating as a coward and liar getting the credit for everything you did and at the same time is spreading lies, inciting everyone against the heroes, who were the ones that actually fought, sacrificed and saved everyone.

- From Night Angel trilogy, can't go wrong with Rat/Roth and how Hu Gibbet treated Vi her whole life. That sculptor woman was also disgusting.
I actually thought the Godking was super awesome. He carried the 2nd book by himself. Loved his displays of power and the harem he made, even thinking to include his own daughter in it.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Yora on December 06, 2015, 07:34:09 PM
The most evil character if fantasy is most probably from the most appallingly disgusting  fantasy book. But as far as complex and intriguing protagonists go, Kane is deliciously evil. After having read two or three books you probably start to figure out what exactly he really is, but there never is any doubt that he is evil. He's been around for probably thousands of years and over the centuries has become an incredibly strong and powerful warrior, warlord, and sorcerer. And he's also the kind of guy who can actually be cursed by never aging. He could die in battle, be executed, or just kill himself, but that would mean accepting that he can't bear his existance anymore. So he keeps on going just out of spite, but he has absolutely no regard for anyone else when it comes to saving his own life. But since he's also extremely intelligent he gets easily bored and regularly goes around poking around in holes avoided by any sane person or stirs up trouble just to distract himself. And when a sorcerer warlord is looking for trouble and doesn't really care if he has to build a new empire from scatch if he screws up, you're really getting a lot of trouble for absolutely everyone.
He doesn't randomly stab people on the street or summons hordes of demons for no reason. But when he has an idea and needs a couple of dozen human sacrifices to try it out, he'll do without second thoughts.
It helps that he's not doing any of the really terrible stuff during the stories, but every time other characters find out who he really is there's a major freakout. He gets called more demon than man and never has any real objection to it. That's just who he is and he has no plans to change it.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: JMack on December 06, 2015, 07:36:19 PM
Firstly, I find myself embarrassed about how little detail I recall from so many books I've loved.  :(

But let's give a shout-out to the Joker as inhabited by Heath Ledger. As in, what the f? Heath Ledger... who knew?

And I'm not arguing for "most evil", but I find myself seeing more interesting evil in Saruman than in Sauron. But if we're looking for really nasty wizards, I'm just fascinated with Abercrombie's Bayaz. That dude was chill and terrifying.

Meanwhile, one of the most interesting villains in Fantasy is Achren from The Chronicles of Prydain. She starts beautiful, prideful and power-hungry. She is brought low, and spends time quietly gardening at Caer Dalben. Will she actually rehabilitate herself? Life's not that easy.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: ultamentkiller on December 06, 2015, 08:36:20 PM
Firstly, I find myself embarrassed about how little detail I recall from so many books I've loved.  :(
This. I can only go back so far.
I almost gave Jorg the cake, but forgot about his Dad. Gosh I hate him!
I think a lot of us have forgot someone. Ramsay Bolton. Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! He's just... Just... I can't even. I think in the show, he's even worse than he is in the books. I mean, he actually made me feel sorry for Theon. That's hard to do.
The God King from Night Angel didn't really bother me that much, nor did Roth. I mean, they were both terrible, but meh. They didn't kill anyone I really cared about.
Well okay, there was that thing that happened in the beginning of the book. That was messed up. Hmm. Maybe I could answer this better after I reread all my books and did a tally on who did the worst things. My memory sucks.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: JMack on December 06, 2015, 09:51:47 PM
Firstly, I find myself embarrassed about how little detail I recall from so many books I've loved.  :(
This. I can only go back so far.
I almost gave Jorg the cake, but forgot about his Dad. Gosh I hate him!
I think a lot of us have forgot someone. Ramsay Bolton. Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! He's just... Just... I can't even. I think in the show, he's even worse than he is in the books. I mean, he actually made me feel sorry for Theon. That's hard to do.
The God King from Night Angel didn't really bother me that much, nor did Roth. I mean, they were both terrible, but meh. They didn't kill anyone I really cared about.
Well okay, there was that thing that happened in the beginning of the book. That was messed up. Hmm. Maybe I could answer this better after I reread all my books and did a tally on who did the worst things. My memory sucks.

Yes. The winner for "most evil"
Ramsay Bolton of the TV show.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Rostum on December 06, 2015, 11:19:46 PM
Rees Bolton is probably more calculating than Ramsey has no redeemin g qualities and a desire to impress his father.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Mr.J on December 07, 2015, 12:26:43 AM
Although pretty much everyone does awful things in GoT it's hard to look past The Mountain for me, he's head and shoulders (literally) above most.

Though I know he's different in the comic book Alias, Kilgrave (The Purple Man) in Jessica Jones was horrific, a chilling and terrifying villain. He went for every single piece of shit evil thing you can do and justified it to himself, genuinely believing he is a sympathetic victim. It adds a whole other level to his horror. Smile.

Bright Yilling from Half a War by Joe Abercrombie, only half way through and he seems a colossal hand of evil. Unless the book takes a huge turn his easy going, relaxed attitude about burning everything for a God because 'reasons' is pretty horrific. A giant turd.

Prince Regal from the Farseer books by Robin Hobb, less said about that evil shithead the better.

Finally though, the greatest evil genius to breathe in fantasy: Locke Lamora. He steals money from everyone, is selfish, arrogant, egotistical, self pitying, dangerously rash and impulsive, petulant and will manipulate anyone to get his way. He is also a master escape artist, liar, pirate, election rigger and will essentially just cheat if necessary. I think he's awesome and I love him.  8)
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Revan on December 07, 2015, 09:42:51 PM

The Limper - Glen Cook's The Black Company Series Books 1 to 3.5

Certainly. In a series of books where pretty much everyone had a large dose of evileness, Limper was comfortably the most evil one.


Padan Fain from WoT is showing himself to be pretty durned evil, though insane also definitely fits the bill with him.

He is insane and corrupted by that monster. I don't count him as pure evil, similarily how I wouldn't count Sephiroth from Final Fantasy VII.

- From the Farseer Trilogy: Regal in book 2.
Has his own father slowly killed, runs in delight when he hears about Kettricken having an abortion, the way how he killed Fitz, all the while destroying his own kingdom. Unfortunanely, I don't like how he was presented in book 3. One could also say about the characters passivity in book 2, but Regal was at the top of his game in that one. 


- From Prince of Thorns trilogy: King Olidan. Tries to kill his own son and the dog scene, of course.
I even thought he was the one who had raped Katherine, just to turn her against Jorg. Jorg x Olidan should have fought, even if he refused to kill his father, if only to make him live in shame or to show how well he learned his "lessons".

I found Regal like the selfish arrogant kid (similar to Joffrey) more than pure evil.

Agree for Olidan though. The piece of shit. The only regret I had from those books is that Jorg didn't finish him.

Does Ruin from Mistborn count? Or Shai'tan from Wheel of Time? Or basically any Dark Lord in any book?

Have to mention The Mountain (ASOIAF) and Elvirah (Raven's Shadow).

Bayaz is also an interesting one. He is probbaly not exactly Hitler though.

Darth Sidious is probably the most evil one in any form of entertainmnent, despite that I quite like him.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Nighteyes on December 07, 2015, 09:52:47 PM
Your mum?
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Rostum on December 08, 2015, 07:18:48 PM
Pratchetts Auditors. Destruction on a universal scale and they are unpleasant to boot.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: leterile on December 08, 2015, 11:18:54 PM
Good call on The Limper. Loved that character. Also liked Darken Rahl. He was really evil.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: tebakutis on December 09, 2015, 02:08:57 AM
This one is tough for me since I am so partial to villains with shades of gray. They're just more interesting. So, my favorite "pure evil" villains tend to be on the more demonic side.

Terry Brooks has a number I'd call out. "the demon" from Running with the Demon and Findo Gask, from the same series (he survives the initial series and shows up later). There's other great examples: the Reaper from Elfstones of Shannara (can't wait to see that on screen!) and the Morgawr from the Voyage of Jerle Shannara. Needless to say, I like straight up evil, as long as it is demonic.

If you extend it to videogames, I *hated* (in a good way) Loghain from Dragon Age: Origins. No way I was sparing that manipulative SOB, even if his daughter pled for it, which is why he worked well as an antagonist (he also had some gray in him, which made me like him more - he saw himself as justified). And of course breaking my "shades of gray" rule, Kefka from FF VI. Holy hell, was he awesome(ly evil). Dude pretty much destroyed the world for giggles.

Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: JMack on December 09, 2015, 03:14:47 AM
Man, I'd totally forgotten "Running". But I do think I liked that book.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: zmunkz on December 09, 2015, 05:29:19 PM
I think the most interesting and multifaceted (and evil) character I've come across is definitely The Hunter from the Coldfire Trilogy.  His extended role as anti-hero gives him a kind of depth you don't normally get in the bad guy, and he is undeniably an evil prick.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Ryan Mueller on December 10, 2015, 05:28:26 AM
I think the most interesting and multifaceted (and evil) character I've come across is definitely The Hunter from the Coldfire Trilogy.  His extended role as anti-hero gives him a kind of depth you don't normally get in the bad guy, and he is undeniably an evil prick.

Loved that character (and the trilogy in general).
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: gunsmith-of-avalon on December 10, 2015, 08:06:57 AM
Good call on The Limper. Loved that character. Also liked Darken Rahl. He was really evil.

I always had a hard time taking Darken Rahl seriously. Between the quasi-Satanic rituals, the pedophile as his right-hand man, his anti-Confessor campaign, and his corps of wizard-killing dominatrices, it always felt like Darken Rahl would amuse himself by punching kittens if some intrepid editor at Tor hadn't said, "Terry, I think the readers will get the point."
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Ilke on December 10, 2015, 05:18:08 PM
After much thinking, some might argue that it's only an horror, but other thinks it's a fantasy so... my vote for most evil goes to:
(http://cdx.darrenshan.com/images/uploads/3gCDF7_000.jpg)
Desmond Tiny
He's a manipulative man who doesn't care what happens to others as long he gets a laugh from it. I'm not gonna spoil, but that.... man is just pure evil, just because he feels sorry for himself for not being strong enough compared to others of the same race/tribe. He dislikes killing children, because they taste way better as babies (he says this proudly and serious). His watch is actually a still-beating human heart (implied to be from a child) with a clock stuck into it. When he's angry he squeezes it so blood come out.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: tebakutis on December 10, 2015, 06:32:17 PM
I always had a hard time taking Darken Rahl seriously. Between the quasi-Satanic rituals, the pedophile as his right-hand man, his anti-Confessor campaign, and his corps of wizard-killing dominatrices, it always felt like Darken Rahl would amuse himself by punching kittens if some intrepid editor at Tor hadn't said, "Terry, I think the readers will get the point."

Hahaha. I just had to thumbs up this statement. There's evil, and there's comically evil. Darken Rahl was definitely an "I'm evil just to be evil!" villain, which, while possibly entertaining, is not nearly as memorable as a villain with a genuine cause and principles (classic example: Grand Admiral Thrawn).
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: leterile on December 10, 2015, 08:02:14 PM
I always had a hard time taking Darken Rahl seriously. Between the quasi-Satanic rituals, the pedophile as his right-hand man, his anti-Confessor campaign, and his corps of wizard-killing dominatrices, it always felt like Darken Rahl would amuse himself by punching kittens if some intrepid editor at Tor hadn't said, "Terry, I think the readers will get the point."

Hahaha. I just had to thumbs up this statement. There's evil, and there's comically evil. Darken Rahl was definitely an "I'm evil just to be evil!" villain, which, while possibly entertaining, is not nearly as memorable as a villain with a genuine cause and principles (classic example: Grand Admiral Thrawn).

Just had a mental image of Darken Rahl dressed like Pennywise the clown from It. Actually, Pennywise is a good evil character for this list as well.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: ClintACK on December 11, 2015, 02:34:08 PM
- From Harry Potter, Dolores Umbridge made me more furious than Voldemort/Snape/Percy and Harry's parents combined.
I think that while we expect the big powerful dude to abuse people, it really hits a nerve when a common person abuses her power and authority for their own sheer delight against people who can't react in any way.
Even worse when it's someone not allied with the villain in any way (in fact, someone who was supposed to be fighting him and thought was doing so), doing things that you didn't even saw the villain doing.

+1M.

Banal, everyday evil is much scarier than cartoonish mustache-twirling evil or supernatural pure evil.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Yora on December 11, 2015, 04:09:40 PM
Banal evil is the real evil.
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: ScarletBea on July 08, 2018, 06:41:31 PM
Ohmygawd, I just read a chapter with such an evil character that I had to put down the book and go do something else :o
That woman is HORRID :'( :'(

(Duchess Patriana, in the first book of the Greatcoats series)
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Post by: xiagan on July 08, 2018, 06:58:02 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/2dml2u.jpg)
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: ScarletBea on July 08, 2018, 07:02:07 PM
 ;D
There are people who have seen both of us at the same time, so...

(@Eclipse, look at this! 8))
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Dark Squiggle on July 08, 2018, 07:44:03 PM
Capricorn, from Cornelia Funke's Inkheart.
He has an evil henchman, Basta who he lets run free, spitting pure love of being nastyat everyone, but once you meet the master... Ambitious, but willing to be extragavantly cruel for no reason, not so dumb as to become theatrical. Strikes only when he can hurt emotionally, phsically and monetarily and effect multiple people - otherwise it's not worth his bother. Comes from a rough fantasy world, read out of a book by someone with a superpower called a 'silvertongue' and then tries to killl all silvertongues and destroy all copies of his book for fun and to prevent a double of himself from being made. He kills the author who wrote him. He has that distinct attitude of 'because I can'. Holds court and forces characters tto hurt each other while he watches. He is so realistic, and so evil....
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Neveesandeh on July 09, 2018, 10:38:25 AM
I always had a hard time taking Darken Rahl seriously. Between the quasi-Satanic rituals, the pedophile as his right-hand man, his anti-Confessor campaign, and his corps of wizard-killing dominatrices, it always felt like Darken Rahl would amuse himself by punching kittens if some intrepid editor at Tor hadn't said, "Terry, I think the readers will get the point."

Hahaha. I just had to thumbs up this statement. There's evil, and there's comically evil. Darken Rahl was definitely an "I'm evil just to be evil!" villain, which, while possibly entertaining, is not nearly as memorable as a villain with a genuine cause and principles (classic example: Grand Admiral Thrawn).

Just had a mental image of Darken Rahl dressed like Pennywise the clown from It. Actually, Pennywise is a good evil character for this list as well.

Or Patrick Hocksetter, or whatever is name is. That kid is pure evil in the most sickening way imaginable. 'IT' probably has quite a few contenders for this list, actually.

I've just finished 'The Court of Broken Knives' and the protagonist of that book would probably count as a contender as well.

But I don't necessarily feel that the most evil villain is the most compelling. I prefer more morally ambiguous villains myself, but it depends on the setting. Some settings force people to be their worst, again, 'IT' springs to mind.
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Post by: cupiscent on July 09, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
+1 for Umbridge
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Post by: Justan Henner on July 09, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
+1 for Umbridge

I'm still salty she didn't win the book battle (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/fantasy-faction-book-battles/fantasy-faction-book-battles-favorite-antagonist-bracket-discussion/msg147844/#msg147844).
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: S. K. Inkslinger on July 10, 2018, 09:37:44 AM
I mean he's the book protagonist, but Jorg is pretty evil too (especially in Prince of Thorns). He is many things, but definitely an evil bastard.   ;D
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: CameronJohnston on July 10, 2018, 09:55:36 AM
Umbridge gets my vote. Gah, that petty, bureaucratic evil...
Title: Re: Most Evil Character in Fantasy
Post by: Ned Marcus on July 10, 2018, 02:58:13 PM
Captain Kennit in the Liveships Traders series. Absolutely evil characters don't feel like real characters to me, so it's hard to see Sauron, for example, as an evil character because he's hardly a character at all—more like a force of nature (which I can still enjoy). Kennit, however, seems very human—and evil.