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Re: Low expectations to page turner
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2021, 08:25:07 AM »
That is interesting to hear--Blackwing has finally percolated to the top of my get-from-the-library list and I've been looking at it wondering if I do get it, or if I quietly delete it... but if both of you guys enjoyed it, I will give it a shot!

Very nervous haha.

*Quietly search for Blackwing on goodreads and google* Is the book grimdark? And if so how dark is it? I'm started to feel interested too.

Looks at @Peat page to see if it comes under grimdark.

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Re: Low expectations to page turner
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2021, 09:16:11 AM »
I think it's a bit grimdark, yes, but not the 'despairing' type, more because the main character does the right thing (in the end), but he doesn't care about rules, processes and whoever (more or less) gets hurt along the way (especially if it's not a friend)
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Re: Low expectations to page turner
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2021, 02:57:11 PM »
Blackwing is excellent. Think grimdark world, and a cynical but not nihilistic character who is not a total arsehole. Grimdark with heart.

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Re: Low expectations to page turner
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2021, 03:18:10 PM »
Blackwing is excellent. Think grimdark world, and a cynical but not nihilistic character who is not a total arsehole. Grimdark with heart.
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Re: Low expectations to page turner
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2021, 12:57:01 AM »
I sometimes use the term Grimdark-adjacent for that. And sometimes I use the horrible but accurate term Grimheart.

But I'd just like to go with Dark Heroic Fantasy. And I should try it again some time.
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Re: Low expectations to page turner
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2021, 08:39:10 AM »
I sometimes use the term Grimdark-adjacent for that. And sometimes I use the horrible but accurate term Grimheart.

But I'd just like to go with Dark Heroic Fantasy. And I should try it again some time.

Yeah I'm gonna veto the term Grimheart.

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Re: Low expectations to page turner
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2021, 09:15:19 AM »
I sometimes use the term Grimdark-adjacent for that. And sometimes I use the horrible but accurate term Grimheart.

But I'd just like to go with Dark Heroic Fantasy. And I should try it again some time.

Yeah I'm gonna veto the term Grimheart.

sorrynotsorry @Peat :)

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Re: Low expectations to page turner
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2021, 04:43:40 PM »
Have you headed into a book thinking this might not be for me but before you know it has sucked you in?
This question is for me, isn't it? :P

Yes, before reading City of stairs it'd been in a far away backburner of my mind, and it was only you making it the Readalong AND pestering asking me several times if I was going to read it that made me actually read it. The rest is history, 5 stars ;D
haha I was the opposite with City of Stairs. From everything I'd heard it sounded perfect and then.... :/
I was a bit disappointed by City of Stairs, too.

I have a theory that if something is sold as "the X of fantasy", or "like X but fantasy", and you're at all familiar with the original version of X, then you aren't going to like it. City of Stairs was sold to me as the fantasy version of John Le Carre, and it just plainly isn't. I think that's also why, as a fan of Chandler and Hammett, I don't get on with Dresden. And I tend to like Regency fantasy of manners, but I think people who actually read a lot of Regency romance don't like the fantasy versions as much as I do.

On the other hand, I am happy to read endless versions of "Hornblower in space" so maybe I'm overthinking.