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Title: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: hunter1979 on July 28, 2020, 10:00:07 PM
TLDR: Looking for a classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, and magic items! A male hero on a quest through an enchanted land using magic artifacts, his wits, and sword to save the day. Could be portal fantasy or YA! But want it to be in a a medieval Europe type location. Not real world.



Like many my main and first exposure to the fantasy genre was Lord of the Rings. For me it was the movies. I loved them. A hero armed with a magic sword goes on a journey to far off lands. There were enchanted forests of tree people, trolls, and giant spiders. It felt like a fairy tale in some ways.

So years later I decide to see what else is out there, wanting more stories like this with that classic fantasy menagerie, but slowly realized LOTR was a true exception. I expected to have my pick of ordinary adventurer with magic sword encountering the magical fairytale like beings. I expected sea monsters and fairies and witches and mushroom dwelling mysterious hermits. But found pretty much nothing. I even searched in YA. Still it seemed like that almost fairy tale like wonder was impossible to find. Sure I found sword and sorcery, but most of it was like an action movie about a badass warrior. Not much sense of wonder and discovery or a true epic journey. Other series I tried were all about war and militaries and politics. Very little magic and no real fantastical menageries.

Now look obviously variety is great and I know folks love sword and sorcery as well as the more military focused epic tomes. And I’m by no means talking bad about the genre at all.

I’m just saying I’m surprised there aren’t more options for the more fairy tale like classic hero’s journey and expected more classic fantasy/fairy tale beings. I expected more magic cloaks, and boots of leaping, and forest giants, and pirate attacks, and treasure chests holding a magic item, and ghosts, and skeleton warriors and flying horses. Journeys across frozen mountains and desserts and swamps of the dead and enchanted forests with dryads. Getting kidnapped by bandits, rescuing the damsel, solving riddles, escaping labyrinths.

Anyway, I guess I went in to this genre with inaccurate expectations. There are a lot of good novels needless to say. I’m just more surprised than anything.
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: hexa on July 28, 2020, 10:27:03 PM
The Sword of Shannara by Terry Brooks

The book begins slow.  You must be patient with it at the beginning.  But then it picks up the pace
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: Bender on July 29, 2020, 03:40:48 AM
Conan books
Mists of Avalon maybe.
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: ScarletBea on July 29, 2020, 07:24:12 AM
Maybe search the older books?
David Eddings and the Belgariad series, maybe?

That is certainly a very specific request, and fantasy is a very wide genre...
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: Elfy on July 29, 2020, 07:54:07 AM
They’re possibly a bit funnier than you’re looking for, but Jon Hollins’  Dragon Lords series has all this as does Nicholas Eames’ Kings of the Wyld and it’s follow up Bloody Rose. They’re kind of dated now, but the original Dragonlance books by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman are good, old fashioned fantasy fun, besides you can never go wrong with a kender.
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: Cherie on July 29, 2020, 08:53:16 PM
The Princess Bride would fit as a hero quest that doesn't involve huge battles and strategy.

If you want the MC to be meeting all manner of weird and wonderful characters and creatures, then books like Alice In Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz could fit.

Also the collaboration between Delilah S Dawson and Kevin Hearne; The Chronicles of Pell series, starting with Kill The Farm Boy takes the chosen-one-on-a-quest quest trope (and many others) and turns every single one on it's head. They are amusing, especially if you have a juvenile sense of humour (like a talking goat who freely accepts that pooping and running away is a legitimate response to everything)
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: cupiscent on July 29, 2020, 11:47:42 PM
Continuing the "look in the old titles" trend - early Feist might also suit your taste? Magician is a classic for a reason. :)

In general, what you're describing is not my favoured sort of fantasy, so the examples I can think of are books I bounced off, so I'm not sure how useful my examples can be. But perhaps have a look at Seven Princes by John Fultz. I hated it, but we're all different sorts. :D
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: eclipse on July 30, 2020, 08:45:20 AM
Continuing the "look in the old titles"

0h thought you said  “look in the old topics” ....
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: ScarletBea on July 30, 2020, 09:53:02 AM
hehe, I'm not sure if he's really that interested, he hasn't returned to the forum since...
(can I say welcome back? :) )

hunter, please check the other threads on races now on the first page, you might find things there for you.
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: hunter1979 on July 30, 2020, 02:22:13 PM
Sorry for my delayed response. Job's been busy. I do appreciate all of the answers. Loved Prydain. Wish I had more like it. Kill the Farm Boy just grated on me though. Couldn't get past the first couple of chapters. I actually read Sword of Shannara. I liked it ok. Not big on demons nor the whole post apocalypse thing. Also really loved Kings of the Wyld. Couldn't get into the writing in Belgariad.

I guess at the end of the day I’m looking for an adventure dealing with British mythology/folklore. Not the usual orcs and elves as much as trolls and giants and griffons, etc. Touch of a Fairytale feel is ok. As is YA, older books, and even tropey ones. I just have this image of a tunic wearing hero holding a magic sword or magic horn in an thick enchanted forest with a huge moss covered troll in his path. A real old fashioned tale.

Would any of these scratch this itch?
Once and Future King
Fatheful and Fallen series
Misenchanted Sword
Here There Be Dragons
The Far Kingdoms

Really appreciate the help.
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: Elfy on July 30, 2020, 10:40:10 PM
Sorry for my delayed response. Job's been busy. I do appreciate all of the answers. Loved Prydain. Wish I had more like it. Kill the Farm Boy just grated on me though. Couldn't get past the first couple of chapters. I actually read Sword of Shannara. I liked it ok. Not big on demons nor the whole post apocalypse thing. Also really loved Kings of the Wyld. Couldn't get into the writing in Belgariad.

I guess at the end of the day I’m looking for an adventure dealing with British mythology/folklore. Not the usual orcs and elves as much as trolls and giants and griffons, etc. Touch of a Fairytale feel is ok. As is YA, older books, and even tropey ones. I just have this image of a tunic wearing hero holding a magic sword or magic horn in an thick enchanted forest with a huge moss covered troll in his path. A real old fashioned tale.

Would any of these scratch this itch?
Once and Future King
Fatheful and Fallen series
Misenchanted Sword
Here There Be Dragons
The Far Kingdoms

Really appreciate the help.
I'm really only familiar with The Once and Future King, but I was also going to suggest that, I thought you may have already read it. It's largely a retelling of the Arthur story, but its done in quite an accessible way. It formed the basis for Disney's The Sword in the Stone, although I thought they did a really bad job with it.
The modern intrudes on it often, but Harry Potter also has many of the elements you want and the feel that I think you're looking for.
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: Rostum on July 30, 2020, 11:01:43 PM
Everything Discworld by Terry Pratchett
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: hunter1979 on August 04, 2020, 03:52:21 PM
I'm really only familiar with The Once and Future King, but I was also going to suggest that, I thought you may have already read it. It's largely a retelling of the Arthur story, but its done in quite an accessible way. It formed the basis for Disney's The Sword in the Stone, although I thought they did a really bad job with it.
The modern intrudes on it often, but Harry Potter also has many of the elements you want and the feel that I think you're looking for.
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Thanks. Does OaFK feature a decent amount of fantasy creatures like I mentioned?
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Post by: Bender on August 04, 2020, 04:25:58 PM
Paternus covers all your needs, except it happens in real world.Though the realworld aspect is kept to a bare minimum and fantasy runs galore!
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: Elfy on August 04, 2020, 11:05:45 PM
I'm really only familiar with The Once and Future King, but I was also going to suggest that, I thought you may have already read it. It's largely a retelling of the Arthur story, but its done in quite an accessible way. It formed the basis for Disney's The Sword in the Stone, although I thought they did a really bad job with it.
The modern intrudes on it often, but Harry Potter also has many of the elements you want and the feel that I think you're looking for.

Thanks. Does OaFK feature a decent amount of fantasy creatures like I mentioned?
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Not really. There's plenty of magic, but as I said it's a retelling of the Arthurian legend, which wasn't big on the magical creatures. Miles Cameron's Traitor Son cycle has all of that in a medieval setting, but they're quire detail heavy.
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: hunter1979 on August 05, 2020, 02:51:43 PM
I'm really only familiar with The Once and Future King, but I was also going to suggest that, I thought you may have already read it. It's largely a retelling of the Arthur story, but its done in quite an accessible way. It formed the basis for Disney's The Sword in the Stone, although I thought they did a really bad job with it.
The modern intrudes on it often, but Harry Potter also has many of the elements you want and the feel that I think you're looking for.

Thanks. Does OaFK feature a decent amount of fantasy creatures like I mentioned?
Not really. There's plenty of magic, but as I said it's a retelling of the Arthurian legend, which wasn't big on the magical creatures. Miles Cameron's Traitor Son cycle has all of that in a medieval setting, but they're quire detail heavy.
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Don't mind the detail, but are these pretty heavy with war/military?
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: Alex Hormann on August 05, 2020, 02:56:57 PM
I'm really only familiar with The Once and Future King, but I was also going to suggest that, I thought you may have already read it. It's largely a retelling of the Arthur story, but its done in quite an accessible way. It formed the basis for Disney's The Sword in the Stone, although I thought they did a really bad job with it.
The modern intrudes on it often, but Harry Potter also has many of the elements you want and the feel that I think you're looking for.

Thanks. Does OaFK feature a decent amount of fantasy creatures like I mentioned?
Not really. There's plenty of magic, but as I said it's a retelling of the Arthurian legend, which wasn't big on the magical creatures. Miles Cameron's Traitor Son cycle has all of that in a medieval setting, but they're quire detail heavy.

Don't mind the detail, but are these pretty heavy with war/military?
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Traitor Son is very heavy on the details of military campaigning. The author is a re-enactor, so every piece of armour and every weapon is historically accurate and described in detail. All the logistics of battles and armies also play a large role.

I enjoyed the first few, and it absolutely has lots of classic fantasy elements, but it took a few turns I didn't enjoytowards the end.
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: Elfy on August 05, 2020, 11:10:26 PM
I'm really only familiar with The Once and Future King, but I was also going to suggest that, I thought you may have already read it. It's largely a retelling of the Arthur story, but its done in quite an accessible way. It formed the basis for Disney's The Sword in the Stone, although I thought they did a really bad job with it.
The modern intrudes on it often, but Harry Potter also has many of the elements you want and the feel that I think you're looking for.

Thanks. Does OaFK feature a decent amount of fantasy creatures like I mentioned?
Not really. There's plenty of magic, but as I said it's a retelling of the Arthurian legend, which wasn't big on the magical creatures. Miles Cameron's Traitor Son cycle has all of that in a medieval setting, but they're quire detail heavy.

Don't mind the detail, but are these pretty heavy with war/military?

Traitor Son is very heavy on the details of military campaigning. The author is a re-enactor, so every piece of armour and every weapon is historically accurate and described in detail. All the logistics of battles and armies also play a large role.

I enjoyed the first few, and it absolutely has lots of classic fantasy elements, but it took a few turns I didn't enjoytowards the end.
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Me too. I guess the military campaigning was all part of the detail I mentioned. I enjoyed it overall, but wouldn't rush to read anything else by the same author.
Title: Re: Looking for classic fantasy adventure with trolls, giants, witches, magic items!
Post by: Neveesandeh on August 07, 2020, 09:54:52 AM
I only enjoyed the first two 'Traitor Son' books, and even then, I feel they had a lot that could be cut out. I really struggled with the last two. It would have been better as a trilogy and each book could probably be slimmed down to half its size.