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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2017, 12:02:34 PM »
How about romance? What's your favourite romantic scene in a fantasy novel?

I have a terrible memory for all the things I've read. The most touching romance I can think of is Tyron with his strangled lover.

Before the strangling.
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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2017, 12:23:56 PM »
How about romance? What's your favourite romantic scene in a fantasy novel?

I have a terrible memory for all the things I've read. The most touching romance I can think of is Tyron with his strangled lover.

Before the strangling.

As a ASOIF fan, I see a GOT reference I press like.  8) If YA romances are acceptable, I do like the romantic scenes in Clockwork Princess, the last book of the Infernal Devices series by Cassandra Clare. To be honest, I have yet to find any romantic scenes/ love stories in any adult fantasy series I've read so far other than ones which are YA. Most of the time the main male/ female protagonists just goes around stabbing people and defeating the dark lord and whatnot. Lovey-dovey stuff is missing right there.   :-\

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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2017, 12:32:26 PM »
I love the lovey-dovey stuff in @sennydreadful's books ;D (Copper Cat trilogy)
(because it's got hard times too)
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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2017, 02:55:52 PM »
I love the lovey-dovey stuff in @sennydreadful's books ;D (Copper Cat trilogy)
(because it's got hard times too)

Now I will have to check that series out! I think that by now, I've got enough books in my TBR pile to last me another 10 years at least.  ;D

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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2017, 04:54:35 PM »
I love the lovey-dovey stuff in @sennydreadful's books ;D (Copper Cat trilogy)
(because it's got hard times too)

Now I will have to check that series out! I think that by now, I've got enough books in my TBR pile to last me another 10 years at least.  ;D
That;s the (only) downside of being here in the forums ;D

By the way, the trilogy isn't focused on romance, but it does exist - and the books are FAB, hehe
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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2017, 08:32:08 AM »

How about romance? What's your favourite romantic scene in a fantasy novel?

Prefer romance in fantasy fairly low-key and appropriate to plot. I cannot pick one scene, but the way Guy Gavriel Kay portrayed the love as it grew between Dianora and Brandin in Tigana, all the way through to the sad end, was beautiful. I was surprised at how strongly that affected me and how memorable it made that book.
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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #51 on: May 13, 2017, 01:47:06 PM »

How about romance? What's your favourite romantic scene in a fantasy novel?

Prefer romance in fantasy fairly low-key and appropriate to plot. I cannot pick one scene, but the way Guy Gavriel Kay portrayed the love as it grew between Dianora and Brandin in Tigana, all the way through to the sad end, was beautiful. I was surprised at how strongly that affected me and how memorable it made that book.

I found it so,painful I stopped listening 2/3rds in. Will (probably) finish the book one day.  :-[
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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2017, 09:24:37 AM »

How about romance? What's your favourite romantic scene in a fantasy novel?

I'm a huge sucker for Vin and Elend in Mistborn. Their whole relationship was so well-handled and interesting, imho.

Taking this question beyond the medium of novels, have you seen Attack on Titan? There's an arguably-romantic scene in the first season that gets me every time I watch it.
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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2017, 01:23:49 PM »

I found it so,painful I stopped listening 2/3rds in. Will (probably) finish the book one day.  :-[

Jmack, I hope you do go back and listen to the end,it may be inevitably sad for some, but there were several other characters, important to the story, whose progress is good to follow and you need to know the final resolutiuon. ;)
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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2017, 10:08:57 PM »
Having had a long ruminate on romance in fantasy... a definite highlight would be the central romance (don't want to spoil it since it's sort of a surprise) in Megan Whalen Turner's Queen of Attolia. (It's the second book. The first book is definitely required reading to get the most out of it.) But possibly that is because it is a romantic relationship between two characters, but it couldn't quite be considered standard romance. It has brutal, serrated teeth. (That is my jam.)

In a more traditionally-recognised-as-romance bent, I really enjoyed the romantic line in J Kathleen Cheney's The Golden City. The characters were whole in and of themselves, they reflected and complemented each other, they grew together, and the reasons keeping them apart were sensible and real.

I'm also super-heaps fond of Mary Robinette Kowal's Glamourist Histories books - the heroine Gets The Boy at the end of the first book, but their romance continues to develop, and it's so refreshing to see a romantic relationship deepen, mature and explore all the more complicated staying together elements on the page.

I realise none of these is a specific scene, but in general, I dig romance for the longer dynamics, which might -
 indeed probably should - spread over multiple scenes. For individual scenes of great power... yeah, I'd probably come back to Guy Gavriel Kay as well. Not necessarily Tigana, which actually is my least favourite of his, but he has such an eye for Big Moments, including the quiet, tender ones. (I'm thinking specifically of Crispin and the Empress at the end of the Sarantine Mosaic, but there are many, many others.)

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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2017, 12:01:08 AM »
Glad to see I'm not the only one who immediately thought of GGK. Just all of them.

I can't think of a single scene but I've always liked Sparhawk and Ehlana in Eddings' Elenium/Tamuli. Mind you... they're less a romance, more a relationship. Less great moments of passion and doubt, more the dynamics. Is that an acceptable line to draw?

Katherine Kerr in the Deverry Chronicles had a lot of excellent moments too.

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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2017, 10:37:57 AM »
I wonder if we should split this thread now, @xiagan.
We started talking about cursing in fantasy and moved to romance in fantasy ;D
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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2017, 10:52:51 AM »
Nothing to do with me ;-)
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Re: Cursing in Fantasy
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2019, 01:11:35 PM »
I came across this today while googling on the very topic. Some sloppy writing, actually, but also much interesting and a fascinating take on the relationship between power, taboo, and cursing.

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20150306-how-to-swear-around-the-world
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