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Ahoy Mateys: Vote for the top 5 Modern Fantasies based on our exhaustive list

Lies of Locke Lamora - Lynch
25 (14.5%)
The Final Empire - Sanderson
17 (9.9%)
Retribution Falls - Wooding
8 (4.7%)
The Copper Promise - Williams
10 (5.8%)
Prince of Thorns - Lawrence
19 (11%)
The Black Prism - Weeks
8 (4.7%)
Storm Front (Dresden) - Butcher
8 (4.7%)
A Shadow in Summer - Abraham
3 (1.7%)
Going Postal - Pratchett
12 (7%)
The Heroes - Abercrombie
13 (7.6%)
Name of the Wind - Rothfuss
16 (9.3%)
Promise of Blood - McClellan
7 (4.1%)
Under Heaven - Kay
2 (1.2%)
Gardens of the Moon - Erikson
5 (2.9%)
The Night Circus - Morgenstern
4 (2.3%)
Perdido Street Station - Mieville
6 (3.5%)
Theft of Swords - Sullivan
3 (1.7%)
City of Blades - Bennett
6 (3.5%)

Total Members Voted: 40

Voting closed: September 06, 2016, 02:22:51 AM

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Offline MammaMamae

Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2016, 01:44:01 AM »
This is awkward as I am the only one who has not read these books

Naw, the only one I've read is The Name of the Wind.  None of the others are even on my TBR list.  Just not my taste.  (Was kind of disappointed to not see more women authors represented on this list  :-\ )

That said...some of the books that are on this list I have skimmed to see what the fuss is about and I agree with a previous poster, the quality of writing is very good in many of them, even if they aren't my thing personally.  I think of all the "genres" fantasy is the one that comes close and often surpasses so called "literary" fiction in terms of writing quality and depth. 

No matter what your taste is in fantasy, I think you will find many excellent contemporary books.  Happy Reading!

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Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2016, 02:48:56 AM »
I believe their ambition was only to give me a crash course in modern fantasy in just 5 books. I think there's widespread agreement that female authors are and have been underrepresented in the genre.

If it's any consolation, I am reading Ursula Le Guin's Earthsea Cycles as well.
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Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2016, 03:43:50 AM »
You could only nominate two books and I picked two books I thought Gem would love the best regardless of gender, there is a lot of threads on female authors here and I recommend them to people if I thought there would like them I love Rachel Bach but she's not for everyone. Margaret Weis got me into reading with her male friend Tracy Hickman who at the time I thought was female lol.
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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2016, 05:25:37 AM »
This is awkward as I am the only one who has not read these books

Naw, the only one I've read is The Name of the Wind.  None of the others are even on my TBR list.  Just not my taste.  (Was kind of disappointed to not see more women authors represented on this list  :-\ )

That said...some of the books that are on this list I have skimmed to see what the fuss is about and I agree with a previous poster, the quality of writing is very good in many of them, even if they aren't my thing personally.  I think of all the "genres" fantasy is the one that comes close and often surpasses so called "literary" fiction in terms of writing quality and depth. 

No matter what your taste is in fantasy, I think you will find many excellent contemporary books.  Happy Reading!

I ran a similar thing to find me the best of modern fantasy not that long ago (must finish that blog post) and the first thing that struck me was just how few women were nominated on the boards I asked on. More over, if I'd stripped out the three people who nominated the most women, two of them female, there'd have been barely anyone.
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Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2016, 08:26:37 AM »
Pardon the length, but I am exhausted from my battle. The King of Thorns lies defeated on my table, but he didn't go down without a fight.

It was a lengthy battle that took all day and night. My back aches from sitting, laying, and pacing throughout my second straight day of doing nothing but reading. My neck aches from my final position: prone on the floor like a child with a new favorite toy. I gave my dog more bones and treats than she gets in a week to keep her busy while my attention was elsewhere.

I am not sure I like this book better than the first - which is not to say I like it less. Far from it. The first has the power of new meetings up close, the rhythms of becoming acquainted with new characters, and surprising revelations on how things are and how they are not. The second has the power of return, a sense of the broadening and deepening of things, and wider views, scope, and consequences.

So I will just say that I loved the first because it was first and it served me well. I loved the second because it was second and fulfilled the promises of its predecessor while making and keeping promises of its own. A terrific read I didn't want to put down. I preferred reading both books to writing my own - if there's a higher compliment, I don't know it.

I learned something very important, and so incurred a debt to @Jmack along the way. I've been so busy with the writing of my book - the prose, the dialogue, and all of that - that I forgot that I was writing fantasy. Trapped in the very focus I worked so hard to achieve and have remained in for so long, I have been neglecting the chief responsibility of my desired profession - to deliver the fantastic. The shine had worn off all my old favorites; it took something new to restore that magic - and what am I doing if not attempting to make magic?

We'll see if I have the endurance to face the Emperor tomorrow.
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Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2016, 09:43:34 PM »
Emperor of Thrones - done!

I really enjoyed the series, and achieved several goals along the way. I wanted to get a feel for newer material in the genre, and I wanted to read more First Person. This makes only two book series I've read in FP POV, the other being Cornwell's Saxon Tales (which I LOVE).

My review on Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1762059331

Beyond the pleasure of the books, even on a first-reading, and without pausing to analyze or take notes, I learned a great deal about overcoming the POV's weaknesses and limitations (thank you, Mr. Lawrence!). His plot structure seems the most obvious of these, utilizing flashbacks to sidestep the natural pauses between dramatic moments. There are more subtle techniques for those willing to look at the brushstrokes, as well.

I was very impressed with the quality and consistency of the storytelling, and the story itself was terrific. So yeah, I'm a Mark Lawrence fan.

Not sure what I'll pick next, but I need a break. I read the first two books in two days, and a leisurely 5 or 6 days to read Emperor - really more of a two day thing, with a couple days off between them.

Reading these books gave me the impetus to amp up my tension level in my WIP. About the only similarity between my WIP and this series is the voice/POV, but the energy level in this series was enviable. I re-sequenced and reworked some key reveals, turning a known, minor problem with long-term repercussions into a secret and far more dire thing.

Anyway, great series thanks for the recommendation!
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Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2016, 10:05:52 PM »
Emperor of Thrones
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Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2016, 10:12:31 PM »
Yes, one more bows before the world's righteous Emperor!

If you still want first person, I think The Name of the Wind is the only one on the list left (maybe City of Stairs?). I haven't read them myself, but everyone says nobody has a prose like Rothfuss, but that sometimes he gets a bit lost into his prose powers and the story wanders way too much.

The Lies of Locke Lamora is humorous and Locke and his gang are great. The first book will have plenty of highlights. But compared to Mark Lawrence, the first book may feel a bit rough at parts.

Mistborn: The Final Empire focus on very different things. No one deals with magic systems, worldbuilding and plot twists like Brandon Sanderson. However, if like me you go into Mistborn after Prince of Thorns and Locke Lamora, there's no way you will not notice the enormous differences in the characterization and writing (prose, flow and pace). No, it's not bad by any means, Sanderson deliberately chooses to keep his writing as simple as possible to just keep you in the story and world, but it will be noticeable.

Or you could just continue with Prince of Fools  ::)

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Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2016, 10:39:52 PM »
Lowtown is first person I think its not on the list through ;-), you really should read Malazan if you into military fantasy along with Glen Cook Black Company series.
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« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2016, 11:22:18 PM »
The Lies of Locke Lamora is humorous and Locke and his gang are great. The first book will have plenty of highlights. But compared to Mark Lawrence, the first book may feel a bit rough at parts.

as a guy who is currently reading lies, i'm super-curious as to what tgc thinks of it.  i vote for that as the next book.

there is sooooo much love for that book on these forums, that i've finally given it a go.  funny enough, my best friend (who i can't seem to get to stick to the forums despite the fact he'd be a stellar contributor) just finished the first and second book, so it's fresh in his mind -- and we're backchannel dialoging as i'm running through it.

i'm withholding my final, majority opinion, but, it seems like one of those very clever first books.

enough so, that it makes me want to research a theory i have about those clever first books.  mainly, they're the stories that (good) authors hash out and thresh and fire in the kiln for years.  filled with all the fabulous things the author has noodled on for years as they fight to get that first one under their belt.

then, after the success, they've got 9 months to write the sequel.  where the first story evolved over a decade, the second one is fast-tracked and ends up sprawly.

in theory, that is.

haven't figured out how to apply objective data to it.

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Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2016, 11:25:18 PM »
I thought about that too, m3m, but it definitely isn't the case for Locke Lamora.

For me Red Seas Under Red Skies is way more polished and way more funny, a major step up with a situation way more complex than the first book.
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« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2016, 11:35:35 PM »
interesting.

cool.  because so far, the only parts i have issue with in lies feels mostly like rookie mechanics stuff.  so, that's good news.

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Re: Here it is! The 5 Best Modern Fantasy Poll
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2016, 12:55:10 AM »
Also @m3mnoch, IIRC the story Lynch really wants to write, the one he's been planning for years and putting all the awesome stuff together for, hasn't yet been told. From what I read, he came to the realisation that that there was so much backstory needed for the real story to make sense that he needed to write a set of origin stories first. I think the true story begins with book four, The Thorn of Emberlain, and continues through to the end of the planned seven books in the series, but I'm not sure about that. Need to look that up again at some point though...
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« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2016, 01:00:31 AM »
right on.  i totally just passed that on to my friend.

thanks, man!

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« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2016, 01:20:23 AM »
Meh, just a misfire. The brain stores words in first-last letter order. I was tired.
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