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Title: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: ScarletBea on November 05, 2019, 05:51:57 PM
Check it out here
http://fantasy-faction.com/2019/help-us-pick-2019s-best-fantasy-books (http://fantasy-faction.com/2019/help-us-pick-2019s-best-fantasy-books)

We can put our options in the comments.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: ScarletBea on November 05, 2019, 05:54:08 PM
Mine are:

* Holy sister - Mark Lawrence
* The poison song - Jen Williams
* Crowfall - Ed McDonald
* Bloodchild - Anna Stephens

 :)
I realised that the others I had in my list with date of 2019 are actually the paperback published in 2019, so they don't count. There aren't that many more I've read that were actually published for the first time this year...
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on November 05, 2019, 06:06:00 PM
We should have a separate list for the  the forum we have better taste then the facebook members  ;D


The Warrior Moon - K Arsenault Rivera

Jade War- Fonda Lee

The Kingdom of Copper- S.A. Chakraborty

The Hod King- Josiah Bancroft

Sixteen Ways to Defend a City- K.J Parker
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on November 05, 2019, 06:11:12 PM
Mine are:

* Holy sister - Mark Lawrence
* The poison song - Jen Williams
* Crowfall - Ed McDonald
* Bloodchild - Anna Stephens

 :)
I realised that the others I had in my list with date of 2019 are actually the paperback published in 2019, so they don't count. There aren't that many more I've read that were actually published for the first time this year...

I've read none of your picks ....  ;D bet you've not read mine either  :)
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Alex Hormann on November 05, 2019, 06:23:56 PM
We should have a separate list for the  the forum we have better taste then the facebook members  ;D


Would be interesting to see the difference between those lists.


I'd have to say
House of Sacrifice - Anna Smith Spark
Magebane - Stephen Aryan
The Steihl Assassin - Terry Brooks

I've leaned so much into SF this year that those are the only new fantasy novels I've read this year.  :-[
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: ScarletBea on November 05, 2019, 06:30:34 PM
Make sure you add them to the comments section on the main page.

And sure, I can organise the ones posted in here into our own forum list. Although I think that not many people read lots of books published on the current year.

Eclipse, you're right ;D I don't get how you continued with Josiah's books, I found the first so meh...
I'd like to read Chakraborty, though, and one day Fonda Lee...

Alex, I think they may want SF as well.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on November 05, 2019, 06:45:39 PM
Eclipse, you're right ;D I don't get how you continued with Josiah's books, I found the first so meh...
I'd like to read Chakraborty, though, and one day Fonda Lee...


Shussh dont let @Skip hear you say that  ;D

first book stated off really slowly then it just clicked for me
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: cupiscent on November 05, 2019, 11:43:46 PM
I was thinking about this yesterday as the GoodReads choice awards start up, and looking through my list to see if there was anything I wanted to write in as a nomination. But actually, I think my best of 2019 (of the ones I've read so far) is Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon. So very good.

I also really a lot enjoyed:
The Perfect Assassin by KA Doore
Lord of Secrets by Breanna Teintze
A Brightness Long Ago by Guy Gavriel Kay
We Rules the Night by Claire Eliza Bartlett
An Illusion of Thieves by Cate Glass
Amnesty by Lara Elena Donnelly

Though gosh, there are some on my 2019 list that I haven't got to yet that I'm sure I'm going to love, like Jenn Lyons' work, and The Warrior Moon, and probably Gideon the Ninth (though GR lists that as sci-fi).
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: S. K. Inkslinger on November 06, 2019, 03:08:36 AM
Haven't read it yet but I'm voting God of Broken Things by Cameron Johnston. I'm reading the first book and it's totally awesome, so I think the second one would be great as well.  :D
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Elfy on November 06, 2019, 05:44:41 AM
I think it's too early for a best of 2019 yet, with 2 months of the year left, but I'll play. Only including books that were released this year, so that should thin it out a bit.

Vultures by Chuck Wendig, an almost perfect end for Miriam Black.
Amnesty by Lara Elena Donnelly, the whole Amberlough series was brilliant from start to finish.
To Be Taught, If Fortunate by Becky Chambers, incapable of writing a bad book.
The Girl Who Could Move Shit With Her Mind by Jackson Ford, a fast funny ride from beginning to end.
Middlegame by Seanan McGuire, lifted her normally top game even higher with this one.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: ScarletBea on November 21, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
Are we (ie UK) *really* that different from America??

Tor just published their reviewers' choice of 'best books' (see HERE (https://www.tor.com/2019/11/18/tor-com-reviewers-choice-the-best-books-of-2019/)) and I hardly know anything!
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on November 21, 2019, 07:18:55 PM
I know of six of them because there on my tbr list or in my read pile.

Ten Thousand doors
This is how you lose the time war
Gideon
Sixteen way to defend a walled city
Gods of Jade and Shadow
Magic for Liars

oh I know some more further down the list as well.

Not heard of the others on there. I quite like the tor list it's nice there have thought what to put on the list and not gone down the popular route of just sticking famous authors names down.


Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Nighteyes on November 21, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
The Facebook group is  the most inane group in history.  Seriously.  at least once a week someone posts a photo of a copy of Eye of the World, and says "Just picked this up.  Heard mixed things about the series.  What do other members of the group think?  Is the series worth it?"  Literally once a week, and by different people each time. 

Just realised I read Poison Sky and can't for the life of me remember how it finished!    :o
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on November 21, 2019, 07:41:26 PM
The Facebook group is  the most inane group in history.  Seriously.  at least once a week someone posts a photo of a copy of Eye of the World, and says "Just picked this up.  Heard mixed things about the series.  What do other members of the group think?  Is the series worth it?"  Literally once a week, and by different people each time. 

Just realised I read Poison Sky and can't for the life of me remember how it finished!    :o

That is so true!
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: isos81 on November 21, 2019, 08:00:43 PM
Now I must join the Facebook group and ask about "Eye of the World" ;D
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Nighteyes on November 21, 2019, 08:13:43 PM
I am really enjoying The Witcher series at the moment.  Onto the second book now.  So would nominate The Last Wish.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Justan Henner on November 22, 2019, 01:42:21 PM
Now I must join the Facebook group and ask about "Eye of the World" ;D

We should make a calendar, and once a week someone from the forum posts a photo of the cover, but in ours there'll be part of a little photoshopped picture of nighteyes, and each week you get another piece of the puzzle.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: cupiscent on November 22, 2019, 10:57:25 PM
Are we (ie UK) *really* that different from America??

Tor just published their reviewers' choice of 'best books' (see HERE (https://www.tor.com/2019/11/18/tor-com-reviewers-choice-the-best-books-of-2019/)) and I hardly know anything!

There are many books that get US publishing that sadly never seem to get published in the UK. (From purely things I've seen, I would say the UK market/publishers are preferring things that are more traditional or grimdark fantasy, whereas the US market is leaning harder into "weird", into space opera and sci-fi, and into non-traditional fantasy settings and approaches.) It's been really interesting to me, in particular, to see which of my agent siblings get UK deals and which only get US deals.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: ScarletBea on December 01, 2019, 10:36:09 AM
My joy at actually seeing the title "Best science fiction and fantasy books of 2019" in the Guardian's 'best books' section soon deflated when I realised that apart from mentioning Abercrombie's and Morgenstern's latest, every single book is SF or dystopian >:(

Where is all the amazing fantasy published this year???

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/30/best-science-fiction-and-fantasy-books-of-20 (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/30/best-science-fiction-and-fantasy-books-of-20)
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on December 01, 2019, 11:08:17 AM
Whenever I hear Dystopian I turn off having  no interest in those sort of books at all.

Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Nighteyes on December 01, 2019, 02:34:48 PM
My joy at actually seeing the title "Best science fiction and fantasy books of 2019" in the Guardian's 'best books' section soon deflated when I realised that apart from mentioning Abercrombie's and Morgenstern's latest, every single book is SF or dystopian >:(

Where is all the amazing fantasy published this year???

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/30/best-science-fiction-and-fantasy-books-of-20 (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/30/best-science-fiction-and-fantasy-books-of-20)

I am sure I saw Black Leopard, Red Wolf there.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on December 01, 2019, 07:05:58 PM
We should have a separate list for the  the forum we have better taste then the facebook members  ;D


Would be interesting to see the difference between those lists.


Facebook group is going on about a new book there found called The Left Hand of God and most of them like it. A complete lack of taste over there.

Only @ScarletBea likes it here 😉 when we were at Waterstones together she kept picking it up and hiding it.

Really we should have two separate  lists 😛 

Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Lu Kudzoza on December 01, 2019, 07:10:11 PM
Whenever I hear Dystopian I turn off having  no interest in those sort of books at all.

I'm a fan of some Dystopian... like Wheel of Time and The Broken Empire. ;D
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Alex Hormann on December 01, 2019, 07:22:46 PM

My joy at actually seeing the title "Best science fiction and fantasy books of 2019" in the Guardian's 'best books' section soon deflated when I realised that apart from mentioning Abercrombie's and Morgenstern's latest, every single book is SF or dystopian >:(

Where is all the amazing fantasy published this year???

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/30/best-science-fiction-and-fantasy-books-of-20 (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/30/best-science-fiction-and-fantasy-books-of-20)


I think the issue is that there weren't many 'big' standalone or series-opening fantasy books this year. A lot of good finales, but the list goes more for standalones or book ones.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Nighteyes on December 01, 2019, 08:25:21 PM
We should have a separate list for the  the forum we have better taste then the facebook members  ;D


Would be interesting to see the difference between those lists.


Facebook group is going on about a new book there found called The Left Hand of God and most of them like it. A complete lack of taste over there.

Only @ScarletBea likes it here 😉 when we were at Waterstones together she kept picking it up and hiding it.

Really we should have two separate  lists 😛

No one reading Eye of the World on the facebook group?
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: ScarletBea on December 01, 2019, 10:03:30 PM
I am sure I saw Black Leopard, Red Wolf there.
Isn't that dystopian too?

I think the issue is that there weren't many 'big' standalone or series-opening fantasy books this year. A lot of good finales, but the list goes more for standalones or book ones.
Stop using good arguments against my rant ;) Still, I think in a list you can refer to a great book 1, or a great trilogy ending, encouraging people to look for the rest.

And Eclipse, are they really reading *that* awful book? With so many good books around, what a waste of time and effort... ::)
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: ScarletBea on January 13, 2020, 07:58:47 AM
They've just published the list on the main site, here
http://fantasy-faction.com/2020/best-of-2019 (http://fantasy-faction.com/2020/best-of-2019)

In previous years the list was pretty aligned to mine, or at least I'd read most of all.
This year I've only read 6 of the 50, with 2 more books number 2 of trilogies I'm doing but haven't read yet.

I'll have to read the blurbs with more attention, but there aren't that many more that catch my eye (say, around 10). I don't know if I'm getting picky or set in my ways or what, hehe
Anyway, all my 4 nominations are on the list, at least :P
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on January 13, 2020, 09:11:28 AM
They've just published the list on the main site, here
http://fantasy-faction.com/2020/best-of-2019 (http://fantasy-faction.com/2020/best-of-2019)

In previous years the list was pretty aligned to mine, or at least I'd read most of all.
This year I've only read 6 of the 50, with 2 more books number 2 of trilogies I'm doing but haven't read yet.

I'll have to read the blurbs with more attention, but there aren't that many more that catch my eye (say, around 10). I don't know if I'm getting picky or set in my ways or what, hehe
Anyway, all my 4 nominations are on the list, at least :P

No I feel the same way and I have different taste to you as well, a f-f forum list would be better then what there come up with , might be a bit snobby but I think we way more knowledgeable about fantasy then the Facebook lot who have only just discovered the wheel of time series.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: ScarletBea on January 13, 2020, 09:22:36 AM
These are books published in 2019, though, so it's necessarily different to a more general 'best of' list.
I read a lot of "older books" (from the last 5 years or so), rather than just the latest releases.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on January 13, 2020, 09:30:37 AM
There seem to go for a lot more self published books then there used too as well.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Alex Hormann on January 13, 2020, 10:08:29 AM
I've read 4, with 3 more planned to read.
A lot there that I haven't heard of, bunch of self published and a fair few sequels to books I didn't enjoy.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Elfy on January 13, 2020, 11:02:04 AM
I’ve read 7, with about 4 or 5 more in my tbr pile or things I intend to read. The rest I’ve either not heard or have no interest in.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Eclipse on January 13, 2020, 11:23:11 AM
It’s an uninspiring list in my opinion, When the 2019 goodread list is better then the F-F list something has gone wrong  ;)

The F-F list was something to look forward to now it’s just forgettable.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Yora on January 13, 2020, 02:08:52 PM
Looking at the list, the thing that pleases me the most is that the edited photographs as cover art seem to have finally disappeared. I always thought they all look terrible and don't distinguish the book. These covers are all striking and memorable.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: G_R_Matthews on January 13, 2020, 06:30:47 PM
It’s an uninspiring list in my opinion, When the 2019 goodread list is better then the F-F list something has gone wrong  ;)

The F-F list was something to look forward to now it’s just forgettable.

It is just a list like any other (even though I am 47th on it - prob because the only ones who read it are actually in that group). It is Facebook and therefore open to the world, with 13.2K members who can vote so of course it is a popularity contest - the most popular books, the ones that everyone had read are at the top. And bloody well done to those authors who have written a book that is popular and enjoyed by thousands!

If you haven't read M L Wang's Sword of Kaigen you are really missing out on a fantastic book - almost literary fantasy fiction. I've read it and though it is some 650 pages, it didn't feel like it - I really enjoyed it. One of the best books I read last year.

There could be other lists - based on two people's opinion, or a small group, or we could have a committee set up to vote, or have everyone fill in a form, or make sure they attend an event (if we ever run one) to be eligible to vote... etc etc etc - you'll never get everyone to agree :) Did I mention I was 47th?

Folks complained about the books to get people into fantasy too... it is all subjective.

Wheel of Time comes up, as does Malazan (shudder), Sanderson, Belgariad does the rounds and on and on - its a world of people out there finding fantasy and science fiction - and good on them for taking a chance (and I wouldn't want them to start with WoT, but it is what people find).

I think the important point is (I was 47th) it is just a list put together by a mass of people who felt like voting for a book they had read... no more, no less :)
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Bender on January 13, 2020, 07:50:42 PM
Honestly Sword of Kaigen is getting overrated. It was a very confused book both in writing and content. The world is never explained and has a mix of modern (planes, radio) and magic with no details on how they interact/coexist and not really practical if you think beyond the obvious.

Misaki could have been a superstar, yet was grossly mishandled as a character. And the last 20% of the book where Robin returns was totally unnecessary soap opera which drags down what couple have been a poetic ending.

Gideon the Ninth was multitude better than Kaigen.

Edit: Not saying Kaigen is a bad book at all. It is a good book, probably a 6 (maybe even 7) out of 10 but that's it.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Nighteyes on January 13, 2020, 07:54:17 PM
I've only read 2, but seemed like some interesting books on the list. And Mark Lawrence is still a big FF fave I see. Not sure any list has ever been essential - I thought it looked a decent enough list of suggestions of 2019 books to read.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: cupiscent on January 14, 2020, 02:19:19 AM
I've read five of those, with another bundle of them still on my to-read list (or later books in series or from authors whose first thing is on my to-read list... I am so behind - and the usual bunch of authors who I accept lots of other people like but who I don't, no big deal). But there are certainly a bundle I have never even heard mention of. Alas none that look like my sort of thing; it's always fun to discover a new author.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: S. K. Inkslinger on January 14, 2020, 07:53:55 AM
I've read two, God of Broken Things and Darkdawn. Both great books. Have heard of many others but they're not really my taste, unfortunately.
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: ScarletBea on January 14, 2020, 07:55:25 AM
I think any list of books will be a combination of 1. Have read, 2. Already know I want to read, 3. Oh this looks interesting, maybe I'll read, 4. Not for me, 5. Oh no, what are they thinking, yuk!

Everyone wants the list to contain just 1-3, but of course since people are different, there will always be 4-5. I guess this time the balance leant more towards those 4-5 that nobody wants, hehe - and of course the books in those categories will be different for different people too
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: G_R_Matthews on January 26, 2020, 05:21:21 PM
Not sure any list has ever been essential.

Too true!
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: G_R_Matthews on January 26, 2020, 05:21:58 PM
I think any list of books will be a combination of 1. Have read, 2. Already know I want to read, 3. Oh this looks interesting, maybe I'll read, 4. Not for me, 5. Oh no, what are they thinking, yuk!

Everyone wants the list to contain just 1-3, but of course since people are different, there will always be 4-5. I guess this time the balance leant more towards those 4-5 that nobody wants, hehe - and of course the books in those categories will be different for different people too

You are very wise! (I've always said so!)
Title: Re: FF is looking for the best books of 2019
Post by: Bender on January 27, 2020, 12:06:24 AM
God of Broken Things and Gideon the Ninth are my standout favourites!