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« Reply #75 on: February 15, 2011, 11:42:10 AM »
Wow interesting discussion as I am a female author writing epic fantasy.

  Has anyone recommended J.V. Jones 'Sword of Shadows' Series yet?

'A Cavern of Black Ice' is supreme, the first book in the series. If you don't read the others, that's no huge loss (sacrilegious though it is to suggest that) because they are slow and I am still waiting for the series to really pick up - and we're four books in  :-[.

But 'A Cavern' is long and riveting and dark and just brilliant.

 
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« Reply #76 on: February 15, 2011, 01:27:58 PM »
'A Cavern of Black Ice' is supreme, the first book in the series. If you don't read the others, that's no huge loss (sacrilegious though it is to suggest that) because they are slow and I am still waiting for the series to really pick up - and we're four books in  :-[.

But 'A Cavern' is long and riveting and dark and just brilliant.


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Re: Female Fantasy Authors
« Reply #77 on: February 18, 2011, 06:54:49 AM »
Sherwood Smith - Crown Duel

Picked it up at a 2nd hand book shop.  Didn't annoy me, but very unmemorable, and not much seems to happen in it, beyond the evil guy being turned into a tree at the end. 
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Re: Female Fantasy Authors
« Reply #78 on: February 22, 2011, 11:20:37 AM »
Someone asked me to link to the free Romanitas short story when it was up, and now it is! http://sophiamcdougall.livejournal.com/12749.html


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« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2011, 06:25:35 PM »
Someone asked me to link to the free Romanitas short story when it was up, and now it is! http://sophiamcdougall.livejournal.com/12749.html

This is really good... crikey.

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« Reply #80 on: February 08, 2015, 02:57:07 PM »
Is it just me who read the  Alex Hughes Mindspace Investigation series I'm feeling lonely haha :)
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Re: Female Fantasy Authors
« Reply #81 on: February 09, 2015, 01:51:29 AM »
My partner just found this article, it's a little old but very interesting. In a six month period, Tor UK received twice as many submissions from men as they did from women.
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« Reply #82 on: February 11, 2015, 10:18:10 AM »
Fourthing (fifthing?) Robin Hobb - the Soldier Son trilogy is amazing. Don't know if she's been mentioned yet, more a take on fairy tales than epic fantasy, but Margo Flanagan's Tender Morsels is wonderful . Oh, and while I'm here - if you want something a bit different you might like my Babylon Steel series (grin). Swords, magic, murder - warning, she runs a brothel, so there is some naughtiness.  And lizard-men. And snark.
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« Reply #83 on: February 11, 2015, 10:42:23 AM »
Fourthing (fifthing?) Robin Hobb - the Soldier Son trilogy is amazing. Don't know if she's been mentioned yet, more a take on fairy tales than epic fantasy, but Margo Flanagan's Tender Morsels is wonderful[\i]. Oh, and while I'm here - if you want something a bit different you might like my Babylon Steel series (grin). Swords, magic, murder - warning, she runs a brothel, so there is some naughtiness.  And lizard-men. And snark.

Babylon Steel remains one of my favourite non-epic fantasy series... Consistently fun, very different from anything I've read before and just generally a fantastic novel.

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« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2015, 11:11:44 AM »
We read Babylon Steel with the book club and it was very well received. :)

I'm a huge fan of Tamora Pierce and Diana Wynne Jones. Especially Pierce has a lot of strong female characters. (Both are YA. I'm  mentioning this because a lot of people don't read YA.)
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« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2015, 12:27:43 AM »
I saw Sophie McDougall mentioned here earlier and it's not fantasy, but she put out a really fun and entertaining YA SF book last year called Mars Evacuees. Well worth looking at and it probably should get more attention that it did.
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Re: Female Fantasy Authors
« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2015, 12:44:57 PM »
My partner just found this article, it's a little old but very interesting. In a six month period, Tor UK received twice as many submissions from men as they did from women.

Chatting to an editor friend about this sort of thing a while ago, and she suggested that it was possible women tend to spend longer over their submissions, and will write several books before they're happy with one that they will send off (I wrote about six before The Copper Promise came into the world) whereas men will tend to send books into the submissions system much faster, and more frequently.

Those are some sweeping generalisations obviously but it might go some way to explaining why publishers receive fewer subs from women when there are definitely lots and lots of women writing fantasy. It's also possible that women, having grown up with a general background radiation of sexism will unconsciously believe that they have to try harder to "win through" in an area traditionally seen as dominated by men. Perhaps women aren't encouraged in this direction as much as men are. "Be quiet, don't cause a fuss, it's unladylike" as opposed to "GO FOR YOUR DREAMS, BRO!"

The upshot of this, interestingly, is that the submissions received from women tend to be of a higher quality. According to my friend, anyway. ;) It's something to think about, and another reason why we should make sure there's a decent spotlight for female writers. http://sennydreadful.co.uk/women-in-fantasy-thoughts-on-disrupting-the-circle/
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Re: Female Fantasy Authors
« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2015, 01:56:18 PM »
My partner just found this article, it's a little old but very interesting. In a six month period, Tor UK received twice as many submissions from men as they did from women.

Chatting to an editor friend about this sort of thing a while ago, and she suggested that it was possible women tend to spend longer over their submissions, and will write several books before they're happy with one that they will send off (I wrote about six before The Copper Promise came into the world) whereas men will tend to send books into the submissions system much faster, and more frequently.

Those are some sweeping generalisations obviously but it might go some way to explaining why publishers receive fewer subs from women when there are definitely lots and lots of women writing fantasy. It's also possible that women, having grown up with a general background radiation of sexism will unconsciously believe that they have to try harder to "win through" in an area traditionally seen as dominated by men. Perhaps women aren't encouraged in this direction as much as men are. "Be quiet, don't cause a fuss, it's unladylike" as opposed to "GO FOR YOUR DREAMS, BRO!"

The upshot of this, interestingly, is that the submissions received from women tend to be of a higher quality. According to my friend, anyway. ;) It's something to think about, and another reason why we should make sure there's a decent spotlight for female writers. http://sennydreadful.co.uk/women-in-fantasy-thoughts-on-disrupting-the-circle/
That's definitely possible, especially because of the perception that it's harder to get in for female authors.

Interesting article, thanks for the link. I'm not convinced by the central argument - the "books by blokes" bit. The reason I'm not convinced is that in my experience very few people care about the author whatsoever. Unless it's an author whose work I have read before, I don't pay any attention to the author at all. The book itself is what I'm interested in so the author is completely irrelevant, and I can't think of a single person I've talked to who doesn't feel that way.

That said, you do see the same series being recommended by a lot of people, so in that sense you're right. Certain books go viral while others don't gain that level of attention, but I don't think the author's gender is a significant factor in which books make that leap. If it's your view that female authors/characters need more exposure, then sharing them could potentially help push them into the limelight :)

Interesting that you didn't mention the Liveship Traders trilogy by Robin Hobb, which imo is her best work - and a significant proportion of the main characters, including the main protagonists, are female. I'm always recommending it to everyone, since it's probably the best fantasy trilogy I've read  :P
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Re: Female Fantasy Authors
« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2015, 02:00:29 PM »
My partner just found this article, it's a little old but very interesting. In a six month period, Tor UK received twice as many submissions from men as they did from women.

Chatting to an editor friend about this sort of thing a while ago, and she suggested that it was possible women tend to spend longer over their submissions, and will write several books before they're happy with one that they will send off (I wrote about six before The Copper Promise came into the world) whereas men will tend to send books into the submissions system much faster, and more frequently.

Those are some sweeping generalisations obviously but it might go some way to explaining why publishers receive fewer subs from women when there are definitely lots and lots of women writing fantasy. It's also possible that women, having grown up with a general background radiation of sexism will unconsciously believe that they have to try harder to "win through" in an area traditionally seen as dominated by men. Perhaps women aren't encouraged in this direction as much as men are. "Be quiet, don't cause a fuss, it's unladylike" as opposed to "GO FOR YOUR DREAMS, BRO!"

The upshot of this, interestingly, is that the submissions received from women tend to be of a higher quality. According to my friend, anyway. ;) It's something to think about, and another reason why we should make sure there's a decent spotlight for female writers. http://sennydreadful.co.uk/women-in-fantasy-thoughts-on-disrupting-the-circle/
That's definitely possible, especially because of the perception that it's harder to get in for female authors.

Interesting article, thanks for the link. I'm not convinced by the central argument - the "books by blokes" bit. The reason I'm not convinced is that in my experience very few people care about the author whatsoever. Unless it's an author whose work I have read before, I don't pay any attention to the author at all. The book itself is what I'm interested in so the author is completely irrelevant, and I can't think of a single person I've talked to who doesn't feel that way.

That said, you do see the same series being recommended by a lot of people, so in that sense you're right. Certain books go viral while others don't gain that level of attention, but I don't think the author's gender is a significant factor in which books make that leap. If it's your view that female authors/characters need more exposure, then sharing them could potentially help push them into the limelight :)

Interesting that you didn't mention the Liveship Traders trilogy by Robin Hobb, which imo is her best work - and a significant proportion of the main characters, including the main protagonists, are female. I'm always recommending it to everyone, since it's probably the best fantasy trilogy I've read  :P

Actually, at the time I wrote that article I hadn't read the Liveship trilogy - I recently finished them and would agree, they are tremendous books.
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Re: Female Fantasy Authors
« Reply #89 on: February 12, 2015, 02:28:57 PM »
My partner just found this article, it's a little old but very interesting. In a six month period, Tor UK received twice as many submissions from men as they did from women.

Chatting to an editor friend about this sort of thing a while ago, and she suggested that it was possible women tend to spend longer over their submissions, and will write several books before they're happy with one that they will send off (I wrote about six before The Copper Promise came into the world) whereas men will tend to send books into the submissions system much faster, and more frequently.

Those are some sweeping generalisations obviously but it might go some way to explaining why publishers receive fewer subs from women when there are definitely lots and lots of women writing fantasy. It's also possible that women, having grown up with a general background radiation of sexism will unconsciously believe that they have to try harder to "win through" in an area traditionally seen as dominated by men. Perhaps women aren't encouraged in this direction as much as men are. "Be quiet, don't cause a fuss, it's unladylike" as opposed to "GO FOR YOUR DREAMS, BRO!"

The upshot of this, interestingly, is that the submissions received from women tend to be of a higher quality. According to my friend, anyway. ;) It's something to think about, and another reason why we should make sure there's a decent spotlight for female writers. http://sennydreadful.co.uk/women-in-fantasy-thoughts-on-disrupting-the-circle/
That's definitely possible, especially because of the perception that it's harder to get in for female authors.

Interesting article, thanks for the link. I'm not convinced by the central argument - the "books by blokes" bit. The reason I'm not convinced is that in my experience very few people care about the author whatsoever. Unless it's an author whose work I have read before, I don't pay any attention to the author at all. The book itself is what I'm interested in so the author is completely irrelevant, and I can't think of a single person I've talked to who doesn't feel that way.

That said, you do see the same series being recommended by a lot of people, so in that sense you're right. Certain books go viral while others don't gain that level of attention, but I don't think the author's gender is a significant factor in which books make that leap. If it's your view that female authors/characters need more exposure, then sharing them could potentially help push them into the limelight :)

Interesting that you didn't mention the Liveship Traders trilogy by Robin Hobb, which imo is her best work - and a significant proportion of the main characters, including the main protagonists, are female. I'm always recommending it to everyone, since it's probably the best fantasy trilogy I've read  :P

Actually, at the time I wrote that article I hadn't read the Liveship trilogy - I recently finished them and would agree, they are tremendous books.
Makes sense! It's amazing how often people overlook them, I came very close to doing that. The reason I read them was that after reading the Farseer trilogy I bought all of Hobb's books that I could find, which turned out to be all of them. Really glad I did!
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