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Offline Hedin

Re: Favorite Tropes??
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2015, 03:03:51 PM »
Possibly relatedly, another favourite character trope is the hero who's been heroing long enough to rub the shine off it, and who knows it's all just mud and blood at the end. Basically, give me an older chap who's embarrassed about his own heroic legend and complains about how his knees hurt, and I'm probably halfway to sold. (Which is why it surprises even me that I didn't enjoy The Name of the Wind, but to my mind it didn't really deliver this trope.)

Sounds like you would love Legend (Drenai) by David Gemmel

Yeah that immediately came to mind when I read his description.

Offline Yora

Re: Favorite Tropes??
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2015, 03:28:10 PM »
That actually sounds exactly like Legend.

I am super-heaps fond of lady characters who have strength and power in traditional (for our society or their society) feminine roles - basically, ladies who have been raised and trained to be "proper ladies" who nevertheless move and shake. It's a powerful subversion of the idea that there's no power in lady-business. The best example I can think of right now is Clara in Daniel Abraham's Dagger and Coin books, but Guy Gavriel Kay's work is also full of great examples.

Yeah, I agree. I feel that this whole Strong Independent WomanTM thing more often than not ends up as "To earn respect, a woman has to become a man".
« Last Edit: September 13, 2015, 03:31:05 PM by Yora »
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Re: Favorite Tropes??
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2015, 04:55:00 PM »
That actually sounds exactly like Legend.

I am super-heaps fond of lady characters who have strength and power in traditional (for our society or their society) feminine roles - basically, ladies who have been raised and trained to be "proper ladies" who nevertheless move and shake. It's a powerful subversion of the idea that there's no power in lady-business. The best example I can think of right now is Clara in Daniel Abraham's Dagger and Coin books, but Guy Gavriel Kay's work is also full of great examples.

Yeah, I agree. I feel that this whole Strong Independent WomanTM thing more often than not ends up as "To earn respect, a woman has to become a man".

Well then, ? Let's get down to business... ?

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« Last Edit: September 13, 2015, 06:06:02 PM by Justan Henner »

Offline DDRRead

Re: Favorite Tropes??
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2015, 09:17:54 AM »
Possibly relatedly, another favourite character trope is the hero who's been heroing long enough to rub the shine off it, and who knows it's all just mud and blood at the end. Basically, give me an older chap who's embarrassed about his own heroic legend and complains about how his knees hurt, and I'm probably halfway to sold. (Which is why it surprises even me that I didn't enjoy The Name of the Wind, but to my mind it didn't really deliver this trope.)

Sounds like you would love Legend (Drenai) by David Gemmel

Yeah that immediately came to mind when I read his description.

You might also like Luke Scull's The Grim Company books too. I just read the second and your description exactly matches the hero Brodar Kayne who was complaining about his knees. They're fun, but not as good as Gemmel.

Offline Rostum

Re: Favorite Tropes??
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2015, 03:53:55 PM »
I loathe the strong women tag and think it is ultimately counterproductive. It implies there are two types of female characters strong and weak. Writing is rarely that simple (nor is life).
If you want a characters with real strength read the Liars key. There are three siblings in that book that have to be the definition of strong. The two females have done terrible things and the male was a willing sacrifice, but you believe they would all die before they would admit defeat.
Be they male or female a well written, believable character beats strong hands down.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2015, 04:43:05 PM by Rostum »