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Title: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: jwest on December 30, 2011, 04:32:36 PM
I'm always curious about characters in books and how people think of them. Some people's favorite characters are another person's most hated!

So I'm wondering: who is your favorite character in a book? Your most hated? (in fantasy, or other genres)

And why?

Is it the hero or the sidekick? Or is it a villain you just love to hate!

I have a few I have to list here:

Roland of Gilead (the gunslinger) - Stephen King's The Dark Tower series...why? Because he is pure awesomeness!

Agent Pendergast from the Preston and Child Books. The guy is so calm, cool and collected. I love the way his mind works.

And Samwise Gamgee from Lord of the Rings. He was so loyal and just would not quit.

Let's hear some of yours!

Best wishes,
James
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Funky Scarecrow on December 30, 2011, 06:07:58 PM
Funnily enough, two of your favourites set my teeth on edge. Pendergast is a pale and irritating Holmes rip-off and Samwise is a fawning, lickspittle, forelock tugging class traitor; a Wormtongue for the designated good guys, a mini Mouth of Sauron. ;D Like you said, one person's meat is another person's poison. :P

My favourites include, but are not limited to:

Allan Quartermain from H. Rider Haggard's adventure novels - I cut my teeth on pulp adventure novels, so Qurtermain looms large. The yardstick I measure a lot of modern heroes by.

Monza Murcatto from Joe Abercrombie's Best Served Cold - More of an anti-heroine, really, but one of my favourite characters of recent years.

Sam Vimes from the City Watch strand of Sir Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels- Distilled essence of copper.

Geneviève Dieudonné from Kim Newman's Anno Dracula series - An actual heroine, this time. Capable, smart, emotional without being prone to silly decisions based on going squishy over a bloke, almost perfect so far as female heroines go.

The Gray Mouser, from Fritz Leiber's Fafrhd and The Gray Mouser stories - The prototype of the rogue-like hero in modern fantasy stories (Conan was too good in combat to really fit the type, despite his rogue-like attitudes). Being of smallish stature, relaxed attitudes towards mercantile 'ownership' of goods and inclined to fighting dirty myself, I worshipped the Gray Mouser from the first time I read about him as a youngster. Right up until the day I matured enough to stop nicking things and getting into fights, he was the template I modelled myself after.

There are lots of others, of course; I'm just noting the first few who came to mind.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: graveyardhag on December 30, 2011, 10:26:43 PM
I also love Sam Vimes. There are other characters within the Discworld I really enjoy reading about too. Mainly Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg. Tiffany Aching.
Shallan from Brandan Sanderson's The Way of Kings.
Penryn from Angelfall by Susan Ee. She was great, no whiny little pity party for this girl!

Characters I hated are a little harder, though there is one I don't even need to think about:
Mac from Karen Marie Moning's Fever series. I hate this stupid girl with a passion. The Fever series is actually a really good story, completely ruined by a petulant, irritating, childish main character. It should not take 5 books for your main character to show growth! I may as well add in:
Barrons from the same series. He is hundreds (thousands?) of years old, and is acting in exactly the same manner as 22 year old Mac. AAAARRRGGGGHHHHH! Thankfully, it only takes 4(!) books to show some changes with him.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Gothos on December 30, 2011, 11:06:38 PM
Its always easier to think of characters you liked rather than hated. Usually I'll hate them but as the story progresses I'll come to understand them a little better. My favourites though woulkd have to be,

Durzo Blint from the Night Angel Trilogy,

Anomander Rake and Whiskeyjack from the Malazan series

and Hoid from Brandon Sanderson's cosmer.

Mat Cauthon from the Wheel of Time, by far the most enjoyable character ever. Jordan hit the nail on the head when he wrote Mat into existence, he is the perfect character. I don't see how anybody could dislike him.

A good example of characters I hated at first but then grew to love are mostly in the Wheel of Time series. Nynaeve was one I hated the first time around but once you understand her a little she grows on you. Egwene is one of those characters I've never liked, although I don't mind reading her POV chapters.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Elfy on December 31, 2011, 06:51:23 AM
I have lots, but one that often sticks out for me is Jaime Lannister from ASoIaF. I started out hating him with a passion in AGoT, and then Martin gave him this incredible journey in ASoS and I wound up being firmly in his camp cheering him on.
And from my youth Snufkin out of the Moomin books. I think I liked him every bit as much as Moomintroll himself did.
From Discworld, it's the Luggage and the Librarian.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Nighteyes on December 31, 2011, 10:12:07 AM
Joe Abercrombie, George RR Martin and Pratchett are my favourite writers of characters.  So many fantastic characters, Glokta the crippled torturer, Arya and Death all spring to mind. 
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Nyki Blatchley on December 31, 2011, 10:05:55 PM
The Gray Mouser, from Fritz Leiber's Fafrhd and The Gray Mouser stories - The prototype of the rogue-like hero in modern fantasy stories (Conan was too good in combat to really fit the type, despite his rogue-like attitudes). Being of smallish stature, relaxed attitudes towards mercantile 'ownership' of goods and inclined to fighting dirty myself, I worshipped the Gray Mouser from the first time I read about him as a youngster. Right up until the day I matured enough to stop nicking things and getting into fights, he was the template I modelled myself after.


I love both Fafhrd and the Mouser, but I'd say the prototype of the rogue-like hero is Cabell's Jurgen, twenty-odd years earlier.  He's another favourite.

Valentine (aka White Crow) and Casaubon from several of Mary Gentle's books - beautifully matched and contrasting.

Moorcock's Jherek Carnelian - not one of his best-known characters, but I love his blend of sophistication and innocence.

Not fantasy, but Iain Banks's Isis Whit, for much the same reasons.

Kane, from Karl Edward Wagner's 70s series. An intriguing anti-hero, who's sometimes the hero, sometimes the villain, usually in between.

And yes, I love Sam Gamgee too - sorry, Funky
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: W4nderer on January 01, 2012, 02:15:34 AM
Favorite is Kvothe from NotW.
Hated would probably be either Ambrose Jakis from the same book, or Prince Calder from some of Abercrombie's books.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: JoshuaPSimon on January 01, 2012, 02:29:43 AM
All-time favorite is Croaker from The Black Company series.

Least favorite is Jonathon Strange from Jonathon Strange and Mr. Norrell.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Elfy on January 01, 2012, 02:31:20 AM
I've been trying to think of a most hated character, and I'm having trouble, because if I take a strong dislike to a villain or a character behaving abhorrently then the author has done their job. I tend to think of most hated character as one that is written badly or behaves unbelievably which is what makes me dislike them.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Nyki Blatchley on January 01, 2012, 06:25:07 PM
I'd agree completely with that distinction - a despicable character can easily be a favourite.  I can't think of any I hate, because I tend to forget books I dislike, and a character that awful would normally make me dislike the book.
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Post by: Bane of Kings on January 01, 2012, 07:25:43 PM
Favourite Characters:

Kylar Stern - The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks
Arlen Bales - The Demon Cycle by Peter V. Brett
Asher - The Innocent Mage by Karen Miller
Max, up to Book 5 - Maximum Ride Series by James Patterson
Sherlock Holmes - Sherlock Holmes by Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle
Ibram Gaunt - Gaunt's Ghosts Series by Dan Abnett
Brin Milo - Gaunt's Ghosts Series by Dan Abnett
Harry Dresden - The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher

Least Favourite Characters:

Dylan - Maximum Ride Series by James Patterson
Max Book 6 and onwards - Maximum Ride Series by James Patterson

I'll probably think of more later, this is by no means a definitive list.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: The Lightning Tree on January 01, 2012, 09:05:08 PM
Agreeing with various people along the way, I love Stephen King's Roland Deschain, Terry Pratchett's Sam Vimes, and Robert Jordan's Mat Cauthon. Also Robin Hobb's Fitz and the Fool (I can't choose between them!).

I HATE Raymond E. Feist's Tal, of his Conclave of Shadows trilogy. His only character flaw, seemingly, is that he is arrogant BECAUSE HE IS SO FLAWLESS AT EVERYTHING ELSE! Ohmygoodness, it's so utterly irritating... which is really not good when he's supposed to be the one you root for! Sorry, Fiest, but no way.

Wow, I read those books years ago and it still annoys me to think about it!  :-\
 
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: LeifGSNotae on January 02, 2012, 04:17:36 AM
I've always been a fan of Lukien from the Eyes of God series (soon to be rechristened, from what I am to understand). There were moments I could identify with him and his loss was certainly humanizing.

As far as hate, I can't really say. There were some that were underwhelming. There were some that were pointless. I can't think of any off the top of my head (I suppose that is a fate worse than hating; at least when you hate them, you remember them).
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: MTMaenpaa on January 02, 2012, 07:17:31 AM
I like most of the previously mentioned favorites, but I note a few names missing.

Corwin of Amber, of Roger Zelazny's Chronicles of Amber.  Cool and calculating, but showing great growth over the course of the epic.  A great swashbuckling demigod coupled with Zelazny's love of godhood and philosophy.

Vladimir Taltos (and Loiosh), of Steven Brust's Draegaera novels.  Human assassin, practitioner of witchcraft and occasionally sorcery in a world of near-immortal elves that aren't elves.  Plus he has a sarcastic psychic lizard for a familiar.

Hard to hate characters though, if they have been written well.  There are characters that certainly inspire great dislike, disdain, etc... but as said above, that means the author has done their job.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Francis Knight on January 02, 2012, 10:59:43 AM
Favourite Characters:

Ibram Gaunt - Gaunt's Ghosts Series by Dan Abnett


I always liked Harlon Nayl in the Ravenor/Eisenhorn books

Echoing the Vimes love too, and I want to be Nanny Ogg when I grow up :D

Liked Mr Gamgee - hey, Frodo couldn't have done it without him - but, and I'm not sure I can 100% articulate why, always had the hugest soft spot for Eomer. 

Harry Dresden, oh and more recently read, Sandman Slim. Because I do love a smart arse lol.

As for hate... Thomas Covenant, but maybe that was the point, Of characters I'm perhaps supposed to like but didn't, hmm, I can't think of too many, tbh.  Mostly, apart as I say from people I'm probably supposed to not like, most have just underwhelmed me. Sometimes to utter boredom/putting down the book, but I can't say I hated them.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Nighteyes on January 02, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
Been thinking about most hated characters, and basically any poorly written female that would put the female rights movement back a hundred years if she really existed.  You know, the type that is initially portrayed as a street smart savy young female, before turning into a simpering mess as soon as a young dashing hero with a humongous broad sword appears.  Or any female that exists purely to be raped, or nearly raped while wearing revealing clothes.  So a lot of nominations from Peter V Brett and Robert Jordan.  *Big round of applause and a pitiful look for the wives of both*  And extra applause for Old Bob for having females who love spanking and humiliating other females in the buff.  
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Nighteyes on January 02, 2012, 10:04:56 PM
and Sparahawk from David Eddings with his annoying habit of making mental notes as if he is actually an office manager from Slough not a freaking fantasy hero. 
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Bahl on January 03, 2012, 08:11:56 AM
Mmm too many favourites. Vimes, most of the Marines in Malazan, Rincewind, etc etc.

Characters I hated? There weren't a lot of them, mainly when they are badly written I want to skip ahead. Some of the Aes Sedai makes me want to sacrifice an eye, they are so stupid. When characters do something so plainly idiotic it makes me groan and I actively want them to die.

Oh and Kvothe. The smarmy, smart ass, lute playing, casanova that he is. I'd love for him to start to suffer in the third book.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Francis Knight on January 03, 2012, 12:19:48 PM
Been thinking about most hated characters, and basically any poorly written female that would put the female rights movement back a hundred years if she really existed.  You know, the type that is initially portrayed as a street smart savy young female, before turning into a simpering mess as soon as a young dashing hero with a humongous broad sword appears.  Or any female that exists purely to be raped, or nearly raped while wearing revealing clothes.  

I don't know that I hate those characters - I pity them. 

I may not feel so generous about the authors though. 
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Nighteyes on January 03, 2012, 01:02:12 PM
Been thinking about most hated characters, and basically any poorly written female that would put the female rights movement back a hundred years if she really existed.  You know, the type that is initially portrayed as a street smart savy young female, before turning into a simpering mess as soon as a young dashing hero with a humongous broad sword appears.  Or any female that exists purely to be raped, or nearly raped while wearing revealing clothes.  

Getcha, I just hate the fact that some *ahem* incomprehensible rude name *ahem* has bought them into existence.  I heard Terry Goodkind is a bad culprit too. 
I don't know that I hate those characters - I pity them. 

I may not feel so generous about the authors though. 
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Francis Knight on January 03, 2012, 01:10:42 PM


Getcha, I just hate the fact that some *ahem* incomprehensible rude name *ahem* has bought them into existence.  I heard

I sometimes think I can hear their little voices 'Please, let me kick this guy right in the koalas'. :D

I hate the fact they an author feels they need to exist in such a way, and that it's still so prevalent even now in SFF(you know what century we're in, right guys?) but the characters didn't ask to born, bless. (yeah they can be annoying, but I;m not annoyed with them, but with who is portraying them/decided this was a good representation.)

Fair enough, not all woman are kick arse fighters or whatever, but gods alive, they can show a bit of moral and emotional fortitude. ETA: this doesn't mean they have to act like men either. Women who act like women but still aren't simpering doormats would be nice. 
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Elfy on January 03, 2012, 10:28:10 PM
I sometimes think I can hear their little voices 'Please, let me kick this guy right in the koalas'. :D

I know it's OT, but I just love the above statement fiercely.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: tcsimpson on January 04, 2012, 03:24:54 PM
Harry Dresden - Jim Butcher's Dresden Files - Bad ass, funny and a thinker
Matt Cauthon - Wheel of Time - My favorite character period, same as Dresden but just so perfect in so many ways. He makes the series for me.
Tyrion Lannister - ASOIAF - A dwarf who kicks ass, bags the ladies even if he pays for them, has no qualms about getting revenge on whomever, whenever. Has same qualities as the above.
Durzo Blint and Kylar Stern - Night Angel -These two are almost like the same person at times - Quotes to die for
Jorg - Prince of Thorns - Have to love this antihero
Harry - Brian Lumley's Necroscope - A man who talks to, learns from the dead, and is cooler than cool

Hated -

Perrin - Wheel of Time - I have the power but I don't want it. I'm a leader but I don't want to lead. For 11 freaking books. Need I say more? *Head > desk*

Love hate relationship -

Kvothe - can you get with the chick you've been chasing for two books already? I mean to learn the most intricate aspects of lovemaking that would drive a fae wild then NOT use them? *shakes head*
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Nighteyes on January 04, 2012, 04:36:32 PM
Harry Dresden - Jim Butcher's Dresden Files - Bad ass, funny and a thinker
Matt Cauthon - Wheel of Time - My favorite character period, same as Dresden but just so perfect in so many ways. He makes the series for me.
Tyrion Lannister - ASOIAF - A dwarf who kicks ass, bags the ladies even if he pays for them, has no qualms about getting revenge on whomever, whenever. Has same qualities as the above.
Durzo Blint and Kylar Stern - Night Angel -These two are almost like the same person at times - Quotes to die for
Jorg - Prince of Thorns - Have to love this antihero
Harry - Brian Lumley's Necroscope - A man who talks to, learns from the dead, and is cooler than cool

Hated -

Perrin - Wheel of Time - I have the power but I don't want it. I'm a leader but I don't want to lead. For 11 freaking books. Need I say more? *Head > desk*

Love hate relationship -

Kvothe - can you get with the chick you've been chasing for two books already? I mean to learn the most intricate aspects of lovemaking that would drive a fae wild then NOT use them? *shakes head*

Sorry but Rand has to top the list.  "I'm going insane.  With great power comes great responsibility.  I can put men in harm's way but not women.  A women died because of me.  Oh poor me.  I'm going insane.  I lost the battle.  Throw things around the room and be petulant.  Pull a good deed out of my arse.  Make love to one of the three beautiful intelligent women that dote on me.  Wonder if I am going insane.  Plot cleverly.  Sulk in my room.  Am I going insane?" Arggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Sam Browning on January 04, 2012, 04:50:54 PM
Favourites
Glokta - First Law - Hated him at first but loved him by the end.
Friendly & Cosca - Best Served Cold - was just so brilliant an interaction.
Ryne - Etchings of Power - just such a badass, nothing else to say.
a few more but I can't think atm.

Hated
Bloody Nine - First Law Trilogy - an utter B*stard
Samwise Gamgee & Frodo - just so irksome and whiny really really annoyed me.
again probably more but currently can't think.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: tcsimpson on January 04, 2012, 06:17:45 PM
Harry Dresden - Jim Butcher's Dresden Files - Bad ass, funny and a thinker
Matt Cauthon - Wheel of Time - My favorite character period, same as Dresden but just so perfect in so many ways. He makes the series for me.
Tyrion Lannister - ASOIAF - A dwarf who kicks ass, bags the ladies even if he pays for them, has no qualms about getting revenge on whomever, whenever. Has same qualities as the above.
Durzo Blint and Kylar Stern - Night Angel -These two are almost like the same person at times - Quotes to die for
Jorg - Prince of Thorns - Have to love this antihero
Harry - Brian Lumley's Necroscope - A man who talks to, learns from the dead, and is cooler than cool

Hated -

Perrin - Wheel of Time - I have the power but I don't want it. I'm a leader but I don't want to lead. For 11 freaking books. Need I say more? *Head > desk*

Love hate relationship -

Kvothe - can you get with the chick you've been chasing for two books already? I mean to learn the most intricate aspects of lovemaking that would drive a fae wild then NOT use them? *shakes head*

Sorry but Rand has to top the list.  "I'm going insane.  With great power comes great responsibility.  I can put men in harm's way but not women.  A women died because of me.  Oh poor me.  I'm going insane.  I lost the battle.  Throw things around the room and be petulant.  Pull a good deed out of my arse.  Make love to one of the three beautiful intelligent women that dote on me.  Wonder if I am going insane.  Plot cleverly.  Sulk in my room.  Am I going insane?" Arggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But Rand had an excuse. He had a dead man running around in his head and the Power WAS driving him crazy so he got a pass. Perrin had none.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: jwest on January 05, 2012, 04:09:44 AM
Harry Dresden - Jim Butcher's Dresden Files - Bad ass, funny and a thinker
Matt Cauthon - Wheel of Time - My favorite character period, same as Dresden but just so perfect in so many ways. He makes the series for me.
Tyrion Lannister - ASOIAF - A dwarf who kicks ass, bags the ladies even if he pays for them, has no qualms about getting revenge on whomever, whenever. Has same qualities as the above.
Durzo Blint and Kylar Stern - Night Angel -These two are almost like the same person at times - Quotes to die for
Jorg - Prince of Thorns - Have to love this antihero
Harry - Brian Lumley's Necroscope - A man who talks to, learns from the dead, and is cooler than cool

Hated -

Perrin - Wheel of Time - I have the power but I don't want it. I'm a leader but I don't want to lead. For 11 freaking books. Need I say more? *Head > desk*

Love hate relationship -

Kvothe - can you get with the chick you've been chasing for two books already? I mean to learn the most intricate aspects of lovemaking that would drive a fae wild then NOT use them? *shakes head*

Sorry but Rand has to top the list.  "I'm going insane.  With great power comes great responsibility.  I can put men in harm's way but not women.  A women died because of me.  Oh poor me.  I'm going insane.  I lost the battle.  Throw things around the room and be petulant.  Pull a good deed out of my arse.  Make love to one of the three beautiful intelligent women that dote on me.  Wonder if I am going insane.  Plot cleverly.  Sulk in my room.  Am I going insane?" Arggghhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But Rand had an excuse. He had a dead man running around in his head and the Power WAS driving him crazy so he got a pass. Perrin had none.

I'm actually with both of you here! Rand and Perrin both drive me nuts. Mat Cauthon is by far the best character in that series, or any series/book for that matter :)
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Drying Ink on January 05, 2012, 04:51:12 PM
Shadowthrone from the MBOTF, simply for the way he schemes - and cheats. Plus his actual motives...

As said before, Vlad Taltos. Only read one book in the series and I love the character - someone who keeps up with an apparently superior race other than by being Mary Sue-ishly, abnormally gifted/powerful. Let me just add: *cough* Eragon *cough*

Petyr Baelish, for reasons I simply can't explain without spoilers. ;)

Harry Dresden: amusing narrator (very referencial, which I always love), occasionally an antihero, and generally wins out by using his talents interestly. (And destructively, of course). Also the sheer amount of development he gets.

Most hated?: I rarely dislike characters if well written, but author's darlings like Richard Rahl get on my nerves.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Sam Browning on January 05, 2012, 06:17:02 PM
Another character I like is Bronn but that is based purely on Game of Thrones TV Series.
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Minesril on January 08, 2012, 11:24:01 AM
Favourite: Polgara the Sorceress.  Probably.  I'm reading Septimus Heap at the moment, and I absolutely love Marcia Overstrand...

Hated: I don't really hate many characters.  It takes a very clever author to cause a character to get under my skin to such an extent.  I'll say Molly Weasley; horrible women, and very subtly...
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Eclipse on December 28, 2018, 06:29:05 PM
Not Lu by Justan Henner

He paid me a quarter which is useless to spend here in the UK
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: J.R. Darewood on January 10, 2019, 05:13:56 AM
Eclipse, I see this latest bit of necromancy as a direct challenge.  If only I had some supernatural powers to confront your dark magic with....
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Justan Henner on January 11, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
Not Lu by Justan Henner

He paid me a quarter which is useless to spend here in the UK

Shucks. if I'd paid the fifty cents, would you have specified favorite or most hated?  ;D
Title: Re: Favorite or Most Hated Book Character?
Post by: Neveesandeh on January 22, 2019, 11:01:41 AM
I feel a little guilty confessing that the only characters that instantly spring to mind are those I detest.

Caul Shivers, especially in 'Best Served Cold'. I thought Abercrombie ended up letting him off far too lightly in the later books.

Marith from 'The Court of Broken Knives'. I liked pretty much everything about that book, but the guy is pure evil of the worst kind with absolutely no redeeming qualities and somehow we're supposed to root for him.

Micah from the YA 'Wormweald' books. He wanders around like a lovesick puppy obsessing over his love interest when I just want to read about dragons and scavengers attacking each other. Then he stumbles across her when she's traumatised and barely aware of what she's doing and thinks it's a good time to get laid. What a creep.

And of course almost every character in the 'Inheritance Cycle'.

As for my favourite, I like Jorg Ancrath. I liked Tyrion in the first few 'Song of Ice and Fire' books. There's probably a fair few others I'm forgetting.

I guess I just like to rant.