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Offline missoularedhead

Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2012, 02:46:57 PM »
Hamilton can be a bit...overwhelming at first. As can Banks. Anderson's Saga of the Seven Suns is...well, pulpy. But I didn't think it was that bad. It was, however, definitely summer beach reading.

The only other one I can think of off the top of my head (and without looking too hard at the bookshelves) is Charlie Baxter's Manifold Space. Intriguing concepts, not too much handholding, but not too sprawling, either.
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Offline Tim Ward

Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2012, 05:26:00 PM »
A newbie author definitely worth checking out is Justin Macumber, and his debut novel, Haywire. Full disclosure, he's a friend, but I still really liked his book. 4 stars only because his writing leaves room for a little tightening and the middle was a little slow.

Noticed this hasn't been posted in for awhile but, hey, stranger things have been resurrected, like John Travolta :)

Here are my recommendations for what they're worth:
The Dune Novels - Frank Herbert
Legends of Dune - Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson (Not Prelude to Dune)

I loved the Legends of Dune, and don't remember a drop off for the three preludes to Dune. I enjoyed Dune, but not as much Dune Messiah, and saw the same heavy dose of politics in the third book, so I never got past the free sample.

I'm curious what it is with the Kevin J. Anderson critics (not much, but a few in this thread said the Saga of the Seven Suns was bad/or pulpy, and his Dune books average 3 stars). I'm not saying I disagree, but since my favorite space opera was his six prequels to Dune, I'm wondering if Kevin is that bad, then I might be blown away by these other choices. I read 3/4's of Hellhole (Kevin and Brian Herbert), but found stopping okay, especially after I heard the end was a cliffhanger, and anytime a book lets me stop, I do.

So, I'm curious, what are these books that people like more doing that KJA's aren't?
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Offline Captain_Newtype

Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2012, 03:54:35 PM »

I'm going to be completely out there and say the Lensman series, if you just want to forgoe any sort of common sense, realistic science and just indulge in pure, unfiltered space opera cheese which rates high on the 'Hey, let's just SMASH PLANETS TOGETHER' Scale.

I admit it, it's not for everyone and it's dated. Badly dated. But they're unapologetically fun.
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Offline Sabre13

Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2012, 11:25:44 AM »
Only just noticed this thread as a keen lover of a good space operatic romp.  Don't be taking the hate for Hidden Empire too much, it's enjoyable enough but nothing special (think Katherine Kerr 'Cycle of Fire' trilogy in fantasy, not the greatest but enjoyable enough)

Peter F Hamilton is great easy access Sci-Fi.  Really entertaining throughout without delving too deeply in to the nuts and bolts of complicated science and theory.  Nights Dawn trilogy is one of my favourite series both sci fi and fantasy.

Offline Inkheart9

Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2012, 06:36:38 PM »
Which Space Opera would you recommend for strategy, epic battles etc? I guess what I'm really after is something which is a perfect blend of Space Opera and Military Sci-Fi.

I've read (or am reading) the following which are all pretty good:
The Lost Fleet series by Jack Campbell
Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy (Star Wars books)
David Webber's Honor Harrington series
Harry Turtledove's Worldwar series

If anyone can recommend something else to add to the list which is a nice hybrid of Space Opera and Military Sci-Fi (interesting strategy, battles), please chime in. In the meantime, I'm reading up on the various recommendations in this thread to see if any of them match up.
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Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2012, 10:40:24 PM »
Which Space Opera would you recommend for strategy, epic battles etc? I guess what I'm really after is something which is a perfect blend of Space Opera and Military Sci-Fi.

I've read (or am reading) the following which are all pretty good:
The Lost Fleet series by Jack Campbell
Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy (Star Wars books)
David Webber's Honor Harrington series
Harry Turtledove's Worldwar series

If anyone can recommend something else to add to the list which is a nice hybrid of Space Opera and Military Sci-Fi (interesting strategy, battles), please chime in. In the meantime, I'm reading up on the various recommendations in this thread to see if any of them match up.
Thanks

Hamilton's Night's Dawn that has been mentioned a few times.
Walter Jon William's Dread Empire's Fall trilogy.
John Steakley Armor
Kevin J. Anderson's Saga of the Seven Suns
Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson Legends of Dune

Will have a think and see if I can come up with some more...

Just read through older posts and see I have repeated myself a bit. Sorry :)
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Offline LeifOnMars

Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2012, 10:42:22 AM »
So... I keep seeing the word 'Space Opera' chucked about, but haven't actually read on yet...

The only one I have on my shelf is:
'Hidden Empire' by Kevin J. Anderson and I think people slate that one?

Anyone got any recommendations?

Go backs to the genre classics, the pulps if you have to, and become acquainted with the masters of space opera, who taught the current crop of hacks how to earn a living from their craft.
If you are lucky enough to find their books, as many are out of print - though copies tend to be available on ABE -sample Murray Leinster, who could convert a telephone book into a magnificent, imaginative page-turner, the much loved Doc E.E. Smith,  the urbane L Sprague de Camp,  award-winning Fritz Leiber, the grand Brit John Wyndham, John W Campbell (who become science fiction's most celebrated editor), Lester del Rey, Jack Williamson, A.E. van Vogt, Theodore Sturgeon and Edmond Hamilton.
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Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2012, 09:50:33 AM »
If you were discussing a 13year old boy, I d agree. But a 20something guy, just jump in there. And I believe Overlord has yet to watch Star Wars, but was a really big Star Trek fan.

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Offline Inkheart9

Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2012, 07:59:12 PM »

Hamilton's Night's Dawn that has been mentioned a few times.
Walter Jon William's Dread Empire's Fall trilogy.
John Steakley Armor
Kevin J. Anderson's Saga of the Seven Suns
Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson Legends of Dune

Will have a think and see if I can come up with some more...

Just read through older posts and see I have repeated myself a bit. Sorry :)


It's doesn't matter about repeating yourself. I appreciate you picking the above out since they tie in specifically about the perfect blend of Space Opera and Military SF rather than just focussing on 'Newbie's Space Opera' which was what I assumed that most the other suggestions on the thread would be about. That's why I skimmed the thread briefly and then posted my question. Will be checking reviews/synopses on the above and hopefully find the right series to add to my reading list.

I'll also re-read the thread and see if anyone has already mentioned Space Opera/Military SF hybrids which aren't too much focused on either but instead blend together fairly evenly.

Cheers

Offline magisensei

Re: Newbie's Space Opera?
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2012, 11:36:36 PM »
You might want to try David Weber's new series Safehold (first 6 books are out) - maybe Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series (although you probably wouldn't categorize it as space opera - but it does have both fantasy, sci-fi and space opera fell to the series). 

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