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Offline Hedin

Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2015, 03:06:55 PM »
Malazan does this to me all the time, in fact I'm sure I pronounce most of the names wrong. Like how the hell am I meant to pronounce Kruppe or Tiste Andii?

Try with K'Chain Che'Malle. Or any other name with (') in it. Keszein Szeemalle??? Erikson pls.
I'm actually pronouncing it with 'chain'. But still there are some other names...
I think it's a thing in every (more or less) epic fantasy.

K'Chain Che'Malle = Dinosaurs

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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2015, 11:51:55 PM »
Malazan does this to me all the time, in fact I'm sure I pronounce most of the names wrong. Like how the hell am I meant to pronounce Kruppe or Tiste Andii?

I've always gone with Croup and Tea-stay Andy.

I've been saying Krup, Tsst Anne-Dey and Ka-Chain Che-Mail.

None of these are even remotely accurate I know.



No, no. You're just wrong.  ;)

Crup (is in "up") and Tist Andy.

Tist? That E ain't silent buddy.   Glad we agree on Andy at least.

Then Tist-e (short e), if you must hear it.  ;D

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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2015, 01:29:56 AM »
My sister and I crack up every time we talk about Wheel of Time, since she is about halfway thru the series now. Names we pronounce differently just off top:

Egwene
Nynaeve
Avienda
Logain
Elyas
Cadsuane
Ogier
Brigitte
Lews Therin

I've never meet anyone in person that's read Malazan, but I'm sure that would be hilarious as well lol

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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2015, 02:12:30 AM »
Oh and while we are on the topic, the worst word in the English language:
Colonel
I refuse to pronounce it properly in my head, and refuse to spell it any other way than kernel. Fuck that word.

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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2015, 02:44:45 AM »
Oh and while we are on the topic, the worst word in the English language:
Colonel
I refuse to pronounce it properly in my head, and refuse to spell it any other way than kernel. Fuck that word.
Oh I so agree!
I spent many years hearing it on TV and movies, so the first time I saw it written down i thought it was a mistake... until I saw it more and more often hehe
In Portuguese we have the 'right' spelling, I think ;) 'coronel'
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« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2015, 10:55:48 AM »
What about "sword"? Is the w pronounced or not?
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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2015, 11:15:31 AM »
As a reader I kinda like to have it my way. Even with GOT, I was disappointed to hear some of the names on TV sounded different than  in my head.

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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2015, 12:02:09 PM »
Huh.  I had no idea the 't' was silent in Voldemort.  Silliness.

Winston Churchill is supposed to have said, "It is the inalienable right of every Englishman to pronounce foreign words exactly as he pleases."

I think that's doubly true when it's a made-up foreign word in a made-up foreign land.

If you really want us to pronounce the word right you need to make it clear -- like having someone mispronounce it and get corrected.  (Almost as cliche as having your protagonist look in the mirror and describe himself, but it does work.)

It usually doesn't matter.

It's neat that "Egwene al'Vere" can be pronounced almost exactly like Guenivere, but it's hardly essential to the story.

Kvothe sounding like Quoth (as in "Quoth the Raven, 'Nevermore'.") might be important.

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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2015, 12:30:32 PM »
Gaelic spelling is funny. Unlike English spelling, I've been told that it's very consistent and has very little ambiguity as pronounciation is concerned. They just use the Latin alphabet in very unusual ways. And somehow Medb is pronounced Maive.
Winston Churchill is supposed to have said, "It is the inalienable right of every Englishman to pronounce foreign words exactly as he pleases."
Japanese is even more extreme. Because everything is transcribed to a different writing system that has relatively few sounds to begin with and has a single character for sylables, the original spelling is completely lost and impossible to reconstruct, so you're unable to determine the original pronounciation at all.
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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2015, 12:35:49 PM »
What about "sword"? Is the w pronounced or not?

And what about 'knight'? Does it has to sound 'night'? "The Dark Knigt" and "Dark night" are nigh.
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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2015, 12:37:51 PM »
And why is it "neumatic" but not "sycology"?
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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2015, 12:42:00 PM »
And why is it "neumatic" but not "sycology"?
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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2015, 12:45:20 PM »
I have managed to find this little 'pearl':
This is why trying to find a good way to pronounce fantasy name is destinated to fail from the very beginning...
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« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2015, 01:23:40 PM »
The worst are the books where every character has to have an apostrophe in their name. it just looks silly to me

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Re: Fantasy Names / pronounciation
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2015, 01:48:23 PM »
What about "sword"? Is the w pronounced or not?

And what about 'knight'? Does it has to sound 'night'? "The Dark Knigt" and "Dark night" are nigh.
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