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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2015, 07:07:25 PM »
This is starting to sound like it's going to be really big.
I don't think I'll like that :-\
Can't we just stick to Waterstones and large pubs/cafés?
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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2015, 07:43:46 PM »
This is starting to sound like it's going to be really big.
I don't think I'll like that :-\
Can't we just stick to Waterstones and large pubs/cafés?
Yeah I liked the sound of just an extended version of the Grim Gathering, since that sounded like a good scale.
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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2015, 09:34:00 PM »
I am in agreement the last Grim Gathering was about perfect and we were very lucky it was free and this is late in the day to be organising anything for next year, certainly the first half of next year.

If the plan is to have a two day event then you need to fill those two days. To do that is likely to cost and the only way to recoup is to either charge more or get more people through the door. Losing several thousand on an event, regardless of how good it is is not sustainable trust me on this. You are also asking those attending to pick up extra cost in hotels, food etc. Making it free may not be an option, making it small and expensive may not work. Big may lose the magic of the Grim Gathering. There was something about it being the best damned convention the UK has ever seen. That doesn't sound like the intention is a small or quiet event.

From Marcs original post.

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Fantasy-Faction Con in 2016 then...

Two day event that will merge panels and fantasy full activities with social environment to talk, eat and drink. Very much like an extended version of the Grim Gathering.

all the list I posted up was my thoughts and assumptions after 2 beers (about my limit these days) from the vague quote above to try and get the post back on track. I probably should have just asked  'let us know your thoughts Marc' instead.

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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2015, 10:18:40 PM »
the last Grim Gathering was about perfect
(...) Big may lose the magic of the Grim Gathering.
This.
Plus scare off people who aren't that keen on crowds.

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From Marcs original post.
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an extended version of the Grim Gathering.
(...) I probably should have just asked  'let us know your thoughts Marc' instead.
I hope so, and yes, maybe, hehe, but he's now gone kinda silent.

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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2015, 06:56:24 PM »
So I had a little bit of an idea that may be total nonsense, or may be a convenient way of having a Grim Gathering next year while perhaps getting serious about planning a larger FF Con for 2017. (Let's be realistic - 2016 for a 2 day Con may be a bit of a stretch at this stage).

However.

https://www.mancunicon.org.uk/

Eastercon - one of the bigger SFF cons in the UK is actually in Manchester next year, from 25-28 March 2016. Would we be better off trying to organise a Grim Gathering around this, perhaps a day of events in Manchester, with people meeting up either just for the day or others perhaps for Eastercon itself (and an FF day)? This way those who just want to do the day, can, and those who are travelling (hello Finland!) might be interested in visiting for Eastercon & a bit of a Grim Gathering on the same weekend. Plus it guarantees high attendance from those outside of our own community who will be in Manchester for Eastercon anyway.

Any thoughts? I may have not explained this idea very well, and it's just a thought, so don't get too bothered if you don't think it would work, or you don't like it - it's just basically a way of leeching off an already well organised SFF event for something more intensely FF-based. Which is, I think, what we all want.

Discuss.  :)
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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2015, 08:59:40 PM »
So I had a little bit of an idea that may be total nonsense, or may be a convenient way of having a Grim Gathering next year while perhaps getting serious about planning a larger FF Con for 2017. (Let's be realistic - 2016 for a 2 day Con may be a bit of a stretch at this stage).

However.

https://www.mancunicon.org.uk/

Eastercon - one of the bigger SFF cons in the UK is actually in Manchester next year, from 25-28 March 2016. Would we be better off trying to organise a Grim Gathering around this, perhaps a day of events in Manchester, with people meeting up either just for the day or others perhaps for Eastercon itself (and an FF day)? This way those who just want to do the day, can, and those who are travelling (hello Finland!) might be interested in visiting for Eastercon & a bit of a Grim Gathering on the same weekend. Plus it guarantees high attendance from those outside of our own community who will be in Manchester for Eastercon anyway.

Any thoughts? I may have not explained this idea very well, and it's just a thought, so don't get too bothered if you don't think it would work, or you don't like it - it's just basically a way of leeching off an already well organised SFF event for something more intensely FF-based. Which is, I think, what we all want.

Discuss.  :)
So basically you mean set up a handful of events (like the socialising stuff) that are in Manchester at the same time/the day after that other convention or something? I guess that makes sense if it's too short notice to organise the full thing now. Never even heard of Eastercon though, no idea what it's about, I'll have to take a look...  :o
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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #66 on: August 18, 2015, 06:25:11 PM »
So basically you mean set up a handful of events (like the socialising stuff) that are in Manchester at the same time/the day after that other convention or something? I guess that makes sense if it's too short notice to organise the full thing now. Never even heard of Eastercon though, no idea what it's about, I'll have to take a look...  :o

Pretty much yes. Just a Grim Gathering of sorts, but it might make it easier to gather authors etc if they're around for Eastercon anyway.

Eastercon is just an annual SFF convention that moves around the country. It's not too big, not too small. Very popular, encourages all ages, is very book focused too.
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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #67 on: August 18, 2015, 06:53:17 PM »
So basically you mean set up a handful of events (like the socialising stuff) that are in Manchester at the same time/the day after that other convention or something? I guess that makes sense if it's too short notice to organise the full thing now. Never even heard of Eastercon though, no idea what it's about, I'll have to take a look...  :o

Pretty much yes. Just a Grim Gathering of sorts, but it might make it easier to gather authors etc if they're around for Eastercon anyway.

Eastercon is just an annual SFF convention that moves around the country. It's not too big, not too small. Very popular, encourages all ages, is very book focused too.
Definitely sounds like an option then. :)
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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #68 on: August 18, 2015, 09:31:02 PM »
£60!
I refuse to pay that much to go to a convention - it's too big anyway (list already has close to 500 people!!)

I'll stick with the Grim Gathering, even if they start charging (say, £10-20).
I'd be happy just meeting forum people, hehe - I'm sure the writers would want to come to our table anyway because it would be the funniest in the place ;D
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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #69 on: August 18, 2015, 09:53:05 PM »
£60!
I refuse to pay that much to go to a convention - it's too big anyway (list already has close to 500 people!!)

I'll stick with the Grim Gathering, even if they start charging (say, £10-20).
I'd be happy just meeting forum people, hehe - I'm sure the writers would want to come to our table anyway because it would be the funniest in the place ;D

Oh there'd be no need to attend Eastercon - it's just that it might be a good time to have the Grim Gathering, as both fans and authors will be in the area anyway.  ;)
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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2015, 04:04:00 AM »
One thing that would've been awesome would be some kind of award ceremony for the F-F Book Battles....

Would this mean I would get subsidized travel?

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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2015, 09:03:20 AM »
Not a bad idea Idlewilder. I'm heading down for Eastercon anyway next year, as are many authors who could possibly nip out for an hour or two to do FF stuff elsewhere (I'd recommend somewhere close by though). Plus, a lot of attendees hang out in the bar at cons anyway and with them being hotels and such you could just wander into the bar area anyway if you like.

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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2015, 12:22:19 PM »
I've been a bit quiet, but I'm speaking with a few publishers and authors about how to get some big names involved - expect good news soon :-)
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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2015, 11:04:14 AM »
I've spoken with the majority of UK Publishers and the majority of those UK Publishers are interested in helping us out.

Also, rather excitingly and a personal achievement because he is one of my favourite authors, Sam Sykes messaged me today with some support (a demand?):

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Re: Fantasy-Faction Con 2016
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2015, 11:41:58 AM »
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