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Fantasy Faction => Fantasy Book & Author Discussion => Topic started by: eclipse on September 10, 2020, 01:04:43 AM

Title: Do you prefer
Post by: eclipse on September 10, 2020, 01:04:43 AM
I enjoy both really  ;D
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: cupiscent on September 10, 2020, 01:23:52 AM
I am outraged that I cannot vote for both "I enjoy reading both low and high magic" and "Magic Mike" and I am going to abstain from voting at all in a sulk about it.

Also I'd never really thought about that congruence before but if someone knows of a "male strippers with magic" story, I would be tickled pink. ;D
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: eclipse on September 10, 2020, 01:30:33 AM
Male strippers defeat the dark lord by  using the powerful magical twerking spell. But this spell comes at a heavy price  every time there use it there lose a bit of sex appeal.
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Bender on September 10, 2020, 03:48:58 AM
I do like low magic, but preferred choice would be high. Epic fantasy us well......epic!
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: ScarletBea on September 10, 2020, 04:09:34 AM
Both!

And cupi/eclipse: funny!! ;D
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Ned Marcus on September 10, 2020, 07:08:15 AM
I like both but prefer high magic.
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Elfy on September 10, 2020, 07:15:15 AM
I am outraged that I cannot vote for both "I enjoy reading both low and high magic" and "Magic Mike" and I am going to abstain from voting at all in a sulk about it.

Also I'd never really thought about that congruence before but if someone knows of a "male strippers with magic" story, I would be tickled pink. ;D
All good polls also contain the cheese sandwich option. I like both high and low magic myself.
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: S. K. Inkslinger on September 10, 2020, 08:20:54 AM
Anything as long as it's done right and written well. Both low and high magic for me.  ;D
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Magnus Hedén on September 10, 2020, 09:08:09 AM
It's all about the believability for me.  I used to think that anything with high magic/fantasy was bad (yeah, I was one of those dudes), but I think that was an opinion based on having only read high magic/fantasy books that were deeply unconvincing. If a writer just drops a bunch of magic beasts, spells, and gods in without considering where they come from or how how they would fundamentally affect the world, it becomes impossible for me to engage with the material. The magic creates plot holes which often end up being covered by more magic (the "magic bandaid solution").

I can't recall exactly which book turned me around (and likely there were several), but I know that Perdido Street Station helped a lot. It has super weird elements and magic galore but it's clearly built from the ground up, and the writing doesn't show it off but rather lets you learn about the world from the eyes of its inhabitants. It certainly opened my eyes up to how I myself would want to build up a strange world in a story.
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: eclipse on September 10, 2020, 09:22:33 AM
To be honest my perception of the members here were that there weren’t  that much keen on books which didn’t feature much magic  like GGK with a few exceptions like Peat and cupiscent So I’m quite surprised to see that people like both types .

I really thought the  lots of magic  option with gods throwing fireballs everywhere would come out top over people who liked both.


Two people voted for magic mike I know the id of one of the members who voted that option 😝 don’t know the other haha
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: isos81 on September 10, 2020, 11:53:51 AM
I prefer High magic. However, there are high magic books that I hated, and low magic books that I loved :)
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: cupiscent on September 10, 2020, 12:07:58 PM
Two people voted for magic mike...

My people! Who are my spiritual kinsfolk? ;D (No, it's not me - I told you, I'm abstaining in a sulk...)

I'm now really thinking about this magical-strippers story. I mean, the urban fantasy lads are always soooo sexy, right? And the hours are basically nocturnal. Vampire strippers, here I come!
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: xiagan on September 10, 2020, 01:34:46 PM
I'm now really thinking about this magical-strippers story. I mean, the urban fantasy lads are always soooo sexy, right? And the hours are basically nocturnal. Vampire strippers, here I come!
Shouldn't be too hard to insert this into our Steampunk Writing Contest, right? ;)
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Lu Kudzoza on September 10, 2020, 04:55:12 PM
I like both. It doesn't matter what tools the characters use (magic, weapons, logic, emotion, etc.). What matters most to me is how they get out of challenging situations. I really like books where the character's approach to a problem is unique.
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: eclipse on September 10, 2020, 05:12:37 PM
I like both. It doesn't matter what tools the characters use (magic, weapons, logic, emotion, etc.). What matters most to me is how they get out of challenging situations. I really like books where the character's approach to a problem is unique.

I think that’s my problem with some  of the magic systems it’s like a get out of jail card for characters and then the challenging  situations and the tension which had built up disappears in a page. Looks at the last book in the Iron Druid series.
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Alex Hormann on September 10, 2020, 05:56:10 PM
I like it when there is a lot of magic, but it's very subtle. So not wizards throwing fireballs, but the forests of filled with spirits, and maybe the voices of the dead can still be heard.

I also like magic that is so abundant the world looks nothing like our own, where there are trains powered by ghosts and wizards rule as kings and queens.

So long as there isn't overwhelming magic everywhere, yet the world looks remarkably like our own, I'm good. Thinking about it, this may be why I don't like much Urban Fantasy.
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Henry Dale on September 10, 2020, 10:25:13 PM
Voted Magic Mike and here's my reasoning:
I've liked books across the entire magical spectrum. For me it's not something that makes or breaks a story. They all have merit and should be approached in different ways.

However, if someone of the writing contest writes me a Magic Mike story I will most likely vote for them. Especially with this month's subject allowing extra steamy scenes.
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: ScarletBea on September 11, 2020, 08:08:00 AM
However, if someone of the writing contest writes me a Magic Mike story I will most likely vote for them. Especially with this month's subject allowing extra steamy scenes.
Why don't you write one? ;)
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Henry Dale on September 11, 2020, 11:22:24 AM
However, if someone of the writing contest writes me a Magic Mike story I will most likely vote for them. Especially with this month's subject allowing extra steamy scenes.
Why don't you write one? ;)

I already wrote a story about other steam stuff and I can't enter two stories  :P
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Peat on September 11, 2020, 01:10:48 PM
I voted I enjoy both but my heart belongs first and foremost to stories where magic takes a back seat - stories where there is less magic, stories where there is much magic but it's subtle and natural feeling, and so on. That's because

a) That matches the mythic feeling I love most about the genre more
b) The more magic there is, the more time is spent explaining it in scenes that I probably don't care as much about

I'd also add that while I'm very impressed by worlds that are changed greatly by the addition of magic in ingenious and logical ways, I'm moving slowly towards preferring an approach of "Who cares it's not real".
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Lu Kudzoza on September 11, 2020, 04:32:03 PM
I like both. It doesn't matter what tools the characters use (magic, weapons, logic, emotion, etc.). What matters most to me is how they get out of challenging situations. I really like books where the character's approach to a problem is unique.

I think that’s my problem with some  of the magic systems it’s like a get out of jail card for characters and then the challenging  situations and the tension which had built up disappears in a page. Looks at the last book in the Iron Druid series.

Exactly, it destroys the all the anticipation about how they're going to solve the problem.

What's even worse is when you can see the obvious solution to their problem is a magical talent they possess, but they don't use it.  ;D
Title: Re: Do you prefer
Post by: Mordred on September 11, 2020, 07:44:38 PM
I greatly enjoy High Magic, mostly if the magic system is soft. I like magic to be pervasive and although I like fireballs and thunders from the tip of the fingers, I prefere it when it is mysterious and inexplicable.
Unless it is a just a tool used as a device, in that case the "magic" ends. But when it is not fully explained and it is seen as an erratic force of nature - I find a good example ti be the Broken Earth Trilogy so far.