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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2015, 01:39:23 AM »
Harry Harrison was very popular back in the late 80's with his Stainless Steel Rat series. but now, few have heard of him. The same goes for Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. They are well-known, but there was a time when the release of their latest book was treated with the same level of importance and excitement as Jordan's books once were. Jennifer Roberson had a pretty solid career going, and people who read them, still remember Tiger and Del with great fondness, but again, not so popular now.
I loved the Stainless Steel Rat books. Read the first one again not so long ago. Harrison also wrote Make Room! Make Room! which was made as the film Soylent Green.
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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2015, 01:20:29 PM »
Sort of related to this is a series of blog posts that Adam Whitehead (better known as Werthead) is doing on his blog. He's covering the history of Epic Fantasy, he's up to number 12 so far. It's quite interesting reading. If anyone is interested just cruise on over to: http://thewertzone.blogspot.com.
I read these pieces over the weekend, and thought they were really good, so I thought this post deserved a bump.

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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2015, 04:19:42 PM »
Sort of related to this is a series of blog posts that Adam Whitehead (better known as Werthead) is doing on his blog. He's covering the history of Epic Fantasy, he's up to number 12 so far. It's quite interesting reading. If anyone is interested just cruise on over to: http://thewertzone.blogspot.com.
I read these pieces over the weekend, and thought they were really good, so I thought this post deserved a bump.

They look awesome, and will jump to the top my blog-TBR.
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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2015, 10:31:33 PM »
Sort of related to this is a series of blog posts that Adam Whitehead (better known as Werthead) is doing on his blog. He's covering the history of Epic Fantasy, he's up to number 12 so far. It's quite interesting reading. If anyone is interested just cruise on over to: http://thewertzone.blogspot.com.
I read these pieces over the weekend, and thought they were really good, so I thought this post deserved a bump.

They look awesome, and will jump to the top my blog-TBR.
They actually are awesome and fun to read. He's considering collecting them all, expanding them and publishing them in book form. Of course he's got a way to go, just covered the whole Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms thing.
I will expand your TBR pile.

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« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2015, 10:33:36 PM »
It's also purely English-language centric. But still, a great read. I guess I'm to post #5.


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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2015, 11:10:47 PM »
Sort of related to this is a series of blog posts that Adam Whitehead (better known as Werthead) is doing on his blog. He's covering the history of Epic Fantasy, he's up to number 12 so far. It's quite interesting reading. If anyone is interested just cruise on over to: http://thewertzone.blogspot.com.
I read these pieces over the weekend, and thought they were really good, so I thought this post deserved a bump.

They look awesome, and will jump to the top my blog-TBR.
They actually are awesome and fun to read. He's considering collecting them all, expanding them and publishing them in book form. Of course he's got a way to go, just covered the whole Dragonlance, Forgotten Realms thing.

great call on pointing this out.  this looks amazing.

i went and found the whole list:
http://thewertzone.blogspot.com/search/label/history%20of%20epic%20fantasy

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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2015, 09:19:28 AM »
It's also purely English-language centric. But still, a great read. I guess I'm to post #5.
There isn't really much in that genre that isn't written in English. For international success, you probably have to write in English or Spanish.
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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2015, 05:21:41 PM »
I remember going into Borders (in the US) back in the day and the fantasy portion of the SFF shelves being dominated by Piers Anthony, Terry Brooks, Eddings, Goodkind, Jordan, and then people like L. E. Modesitt and Tad Williams as well.  Lots of huge books with garish covers--the bigger the book or series the easier it stood out!   I couldn't really tell you what women there were, because as a stupid teenage boy I ignored most of them, but pretty sure Robin Hobb was there.  I did manage to pick out a copy of a lesser-known book called A Game of Thrones, though...

My impression of the UK was that Raymond E Fiest was much more prominent, and also David Gemmell and Pratchett, whereas Anthony, Brooks, Goodkind, Modesitt were almost completely absent.

This is all impression, though, I'm sure I'm forgetting some obvious ones as well.  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem trivial to get the numbers...

Gonna confirm this anecdote, Gemmell and Feist dominated my local bookshop in Stoke (Webberley's 100 years old and sadly being sold). The bottom shelf was Belgariad and DnD stuff while everything else was those two.

Another writer who seems to have plunged into obscurity is Piers Anthony. He was very popular with fantasy nerds when I was in high school and college, in spite of his work being rather sexist (in my opinion), but no one seems to read him anymore. I think one reason for this lies in two very controversial and squickly books he wrote that portrayed sex between adults and children in a sympathetic way: Firefly and Tatham Mound.

Actually had a conversation on this with someone in person yesterday. He said he'd almost forgotten how much he enjoyed Piers Anthony as a kid and I remembered them as creepy but couldn't recall why.

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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2015, 08:41:41 AM »
I used to be a big fan of Cherryh. I guess I still am, but I totally lost my place in the Foreigner series-of-serieses, and haven't been able/willing to devote the necessary time to working out where I got to. I seem to remember that I saw there was a new one out, then noticed there was another earlier one I didn't seem to have read, and then when I read that, I was a bit suspicious that I'd missed one before that.

I always preferred her SF to her fantasy, too. The fantasy tended to be in a different voice, which didn't work so well for me.

I also read a lot of Piers Anthony as a teenager. He always had quite a lot of sexual content. That was part of the appeal for me then, and probably also the reason I grew out of it.

I always thought his books were smutty more than sexy personally, but that might be because of my gender.

I liked Cherryh's SF better than her fantasy too. I don't remember the exact issue I had now, but it might have been the voice. Her SF appealed to me because it was very character driven and visceral (a pretty close third person as I recall). Don't remember as much about the style she used for her fantasy.

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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2015, 09:07:59 PM »
I read lots of Piers Anthony in the 80s to early 90s and it has definitely lost its shine although I always liked his Incarnations of Immortality more than Xanth. I think "For Love of Evil" and "On a Pale Horse" were worthy (if still bordering on sleaze at times). My friends and I all read the Belgariad as young teens and I did manage to re-read but mainly as nostalgia. Definitely couldn't go back to the Elenium for example. I remember the Horseclans books were always in the library and they don't appear anywhere now.

I don't know where they fit now but do the Warhammer books come under this heading now?

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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2019, 07:10:51 AM »
Forgotten realm novels used to be really popular but I hardly see them in bookstores anymore.
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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2019, 07:35:40 AM »
Eddings - Started wonderful then all those repetitions killed the charm

Salvatore - I still have the wonderful taste Dark Elf and Icewind Dale gave me but later books were like written for money and did not have the smartness and elegance of the previous books.
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Re: Books that have fallen out of favor with the crowds
« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2019, 08:00:47 AM »
I used to really like Salvatore , tried to reread ice wind dale and it ended up as a DNF suck fairy got to it.
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