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"Red Sister", Mark Lawrence (no spoilers)
« on: March 21, 2017, 06:11:03 PM »
I've just finished reading this, after a marathon of a couple of hours, where I just couldn't put the book down.
It is so very good!!!

It's also extremely different from all his previous books: you got a handful of male characters, but everyone key is female, from all ages. And boy, does Mark know how to write women! Although I think he's a follower of the rule "just write real people", rather than making men/women that different.
We normally admire Robin Hobb for the way she writes characters, and I think in this book Mark went up there too, with everyone. Those who know me know that I'm one of Jorg's biggest fans hehe, but in those books it's almost as if Jorg's the fulcrum on which the world/book rests, and nobody else really matters. In this one, everyone matters. Probably because Mark's abandoned First Person POV and this book is written in Third.

I don't know where 640 pages went. Honestly, they just flew by.

Also, those who didn't like the previous books for all the violence, please give this one a try.
Yes, there are fights, but it's above all, a book about feelings, about acceptance, about finding your path in life.
It's a book that should be mandatory reading for all young girls.

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The following has got the first sentence of the prologue and chapter 1 - only open if you don't mind reading them.
Spoiler for Hiden:
You think the book is going to be one thing when you read this:
"It is important, when killing a nun, to ensure that you bring an army of sufficent size."
and suddenly chapter 1 starts with:
"No child truly believes they will be hanged."

I can discuss more, when more people have read it - out on April 6th :)
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Re: "Red Sister", Mark Lawrence (no spoilers)
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2017, 07:54:56 PM »
We normally admire Robin Hobb for the way she writes characters, and I think in this book Mark went up there too, with everyone.

Sold! I love Hobb's characters.

Is it OK to start with this one or will I be missing out? What do you recommend?

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Re: "Red Sister", Mark Lawrence (no spoilers)
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2017, 09:07:07 PM »
We normally admire Robin Hobb for the way she writes characters, and I think in this book Mark went up there too, with everyone.

Sold! I love Hobb's characters.

Is it OK to start with this one or will I be missing out? What do you recommend?

Yup, you sold me too. I'll put it in the queue behind War of the Usurper (which I still plan to read very soon!)
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Re: "Red Sister", Mark Lawrence (no spoilers)
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2017, 09:10:11 PM »
We normally admire Robin Hobb for the way she writes characters, and I think in this book Mark went up there too, with everyone.

Sold! I love Hobb's characters.

Is it OK to start with this one or will I be missing out? What do you recommend?
Oh, you can totally start with this one, this is the beginning of a whole new trilogy - new world, new everything, unrelated to the previous 2 trilogies.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 09:41:25 PM »
Oh fantastic, I'm almost always late to the party for these things so it will be nice to hop on board early for once.

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Re: "Red Sister", Mark Lawrence (no spoilers)
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2017, 11:22:48 PM »
Thanks for that write up ScarletBea, love the way Mark writes and looking forward to Red Sister even more now.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2017, 12:42:14 AM »
Also, those who didn't like the previous books for all the violence, please give this one a try.
Yes, there are fights, but it's above all, a book about feelings, about acceptance, about finding your path in life.
It's a book that should be mandatory reading for all young girls.

 :D

The following has got the first sentence of the prologue and chapter 1 - only open if you don't mind reading them.
Spoiler for Hiden:
You think the book is going to be one thing when you read this:
"It is important, when killing a nun, to ensure that you bring an army of sufficent size."
and suddenly chapter 1 starts with:
"No child truly believes they will be hanged."

I can discuss more, when more people have read it - out on April 6th :)
I'm intrigued by the first sentence of the prologue and chapter 1, but the finding yourself angle worries me. Regardless, I've been planning on giving this one a go.

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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2017, 02:25:07 AM »
I'm delighted to hear all of that. I've been wanting to get into Mark Lawrence, but have found the lack of ladies tremendously off-putting when I tried the previous trilogies.

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Re: "Red Sister", Mark Lawrence (no spoilers)
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2017, 03:48:43 PM »
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I'm delighted to hear all of that. I've been wanting to get into Mark Lawrence, but have found the lack of ladies tremendously off-putting when I tried the previous trilogies.

While I would agree there is an imbalance in the number of female to male characters in Prince of thorns but they are there if you read the books and are well written. There are some of the strongest female characters I have ever read in the Red Queens war series.
I will never subscribe to the argument that writers must bear in mind that if they don't have Bechdel conforming scenes they may face Ire from some Feminists. Context and telling their story should be paramount.
I find the concept of being put off a book by gender balance utterly alien and eagerly look forward to reading about everyday life at the convent of Sweet Mercy at my first opportunity.

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2017, 07:55:17 PM »
There are some of the strongest female characters I have ever read in the Red Queens war series.

I was fascinated by the Queen and her heir in the first half of Prince of Fools, and then bitterly disappointed when we just went traipsing off across the country with Jalan and Snorri to have man-adventures. If there'd been more of the Queen, I might be more interested in picking up the second book.

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Re: "Red Sister", Mark Lawrence (no spoilers)
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2017, 08:54:17 PM »
There are some of the strongest female characters I have ever read in the Red Queens war series.

I was fascinated by the Queen and her heir in the first half of Prince of Fools, and then bitterly disappointed when we just went traipsing off across the country with Jalan and Snorri to have man-adventures. If there'd been more of the Queen, I might be more interested in picking up the second book.
Actually the Queen appears a lot in books 2 and 3, where we learn about her background :)
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Re: "Red Sister", Mark Lawrence (no spoilers)
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2017, 09:56:25 AM »
There are some of the strongest female characters I have ever read in the Red Queens war series.

I agree! While I certainly see the point that the two first trilogies are centered on male characters (and I don't see any harm in that), I don't think that should detract from how well written the female characters are. I'm quite excited to see where this new trilogy will take us, and to meet a whole new cast of well-written characters  :)
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