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Reaper's Gale: book 1
« on: May 08, 2014, 10:44:57 PM »
The prologue was great. Finally we see Kilmandaros - probably the scariest goddess ever.

We meet another great (not so likable) character: Redmask - who is a blast with some mean, next to unknown weapons and Mortal Sword to the K'Chain Che'Malle! WTF? Okay, seems that I don't get this Mortal Sword/Shield Anvil/Destriant stuff. I thought it was about warrior priests to ascendants but the K'Chain are an (not so) extinct race.
I see an all out war brewing...

Silchas Ruin is a bit scary. No idea what to think about him yet. Hopefully he finds something more than vengance to care about.

Udinaas nearly breaking the fourth wall while mocking Fear was great. It's an interesting cast and I'm curious about the Onyx Order and what's going to happen next.

Tehol and Bugg are Tehol and Bugg. But what's going on with the ratcatchers guild? And I like the plan to just take all the money from the streets. Megalomaniac. And if the royal mint(?) makes more, he'll just flood the streets with it and has a world class inflation.

The Errant is lost? And what was his deal with Menandore? And what of her sisters? What are their plans? What's Hood up to?

The factor of Drene, the patriotists and this horrible sadist Tanal - I hope they all die gruesome deaths. This academic woman is incredible. If I ever find myself in a similar situation (I certainly hope I never will) I hope I'm at least half as strong as she is.

Shurq Elalle and her pirates... oh my. :D

Can Nisall be the new Udinaas to Rulad?

I don't like the Liberty Consign, but Rautos storyline with the Artifacts is quite interesting. K'Chain Che'Malle artifacts I guess.

We see Toc again! Toc the Unlucky. :( He's really suffering a lot...

Quite unusual to have the first book finished without having chapters about the bonehunters and Icarium/Karsa. We know they will be in the book, so I expected to see them in the first book.

Why are there Curdle and Telorast in the dramatis personae but not Apsalar? Did Topper really kill her in RotCG?  :'(
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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2014, 10:42:16 PM »
Love this so far.

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Mortal Sword to the K'Chain Che'Malle! WTF? Okay, seems that I don't get this Mortal Sword/Shield Anvil/Destriant stuff. I thought it was about warrior priests to ascendants but the K'Chain are an (not so) extinct race.
I see an all out war brewing...

I don't think he is Mortal Sword, he is First Sword, which is I think is maybe more like Dassem Ultor's role in the Malazan empire? I could be wrong, but I just finished this bit and Toc didn't refer to him as Mortal Sword.

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Silchas Ruin is a bit scary. No idea what to think about him yet. Hopefully he finds something more than vengance to care about.

He is awesome. Scene-stealer through and through.

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Shurq Elalle and her pirates... oh my.

Hilarious storyline. Reminds me a little of the guy in Cawn in RotCG - witnessing all these ships coming in, and presumably she will witness the Malazans turn up in the wake of the Edur fleet. Also, where was Binadas sent? Because he wasn't with Tomad et al in The Bonehunters. What champions will he come back with? Seguleh? Avowed? Tiste Andii?

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We see Toc again! Toc the Unlucky.

Poor Toc. Great to see him, and came as a complete surprise. Wish it was under better circumstances!

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Quite unusual to have the first book finished without having chapters about the bonehunters and Icarium/Karsa. We know they will be in the book, so I expected to see them in the first book.

I wasn't surprised by this tbh. I expected Erikson would spend some time with the Letherii and the threads from Midnight Tides, and am glad we are going to get to see the arrivals of the Edur fleet with Icarium and Karsa, and then The Bonehunters. Gonna be EPIC!  :D

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Why are there Curdle and Telorast in the dramatis personae but not Apsalar? Did Topper really kill her in RotCG?

She definitely wasn't killed in RotCG, no chance. She isn't with Curdle and Telorast anymore because she basically 'retired' at the end of The Bonehunters.

Also, is Kilmandaros' children the Forkrul Assail? She had a similar physical description to them and it would make sense for us to meet their Elder God.

This is so good...
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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2014, 02:33:52 AM »
Also, where was Binadas sent? Because he wasn't with Tomad et al in The Bonehunters. What champions will he come back with? Seguleh? Avowed? Tiste Andii?
I think this was mentioned already, but since I'm not so sure, I put it in spoiler tags. If it hasn't been mentioned, it will be soon.
Spoiler for Hiden:
Binadas was the not so lucky captain of a certain vessel called Silanda and had an unfortunate encounter with Karsa earlier on...

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She definitely wasn't killed in RotCG, no chance.
So who was the mysterious girl that fights "like her father" and nearly stood a chance against topper but was killed nonetheless? Don't think she's dead too, tbh. But still wonder who else this girl could have been...
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Also, is Kilmandaros' children the Forkrul Assail? She had a similar physical description to them and it would make sense for us to meet their Elder God.
She definitely is. I guess there is no existing being that matches her brute force.  ;D
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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2014, 09:21:56 AM »
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She definitely wasn't killed in RotCG, no chance.
So who was the mysterious girl that fights "like her father" and nearly stood a chance against topper but was killed nonetheless? Don't think she's dead too, tbh. But still wonder who else this girl could have been...


The following is from a Q&A held by the Tor rereaders for Malazan after Return of the Crimson Guard. In spoilers just in case -

Spoiler for Hiden:
Jordanes: Just who was the girl Ragman/Topper fought in the Imperial Warren? Was it Apsalar or someone else? Lots of speculation on this but no definitive answer I'm aware of.
 
Ian C: Ah, yes. She represents another one of these off-stage potentialities that Steve and I hint at to suggest all the “other stuff” going on off-stage all about the world. She is thus a possibility, a potential that he or I might return to (and thus answer these questions).
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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2014, 04:37:50 PM »
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Also, is Kilmandaros' children the Forkrul Assail? She had a similar physical description to them and it would make sense for us to meet their Elder God.
She definitely is. I guess there is no existing being that matches her brute force.  ;D

I always got the impression the Thel Akai (Ereko's people from Return of the Crimson Guard), were her descendants, but I feel like that's just a 'fact' I've hobbled together from her size being compared to a toblakai when you first meet her (and just her overall demeanor being very Karsa-like).
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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 11:54:55 AM »
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Also, is Kilmandaros' children the Forkrul Assail? She had a similar physical description to them and it would make sense for us to meet their Elder God.
She definitely is. I guess there is no existing being that matches her brute force.  ;D

I always got the impression the Thel Akai (Ereko's people from Return of the Crimson Guard), were her descendants, but I feel like that's just a 'fact' I've hobbled together from her size being compared to a toblakai when you first meet her (and just her overall demeanor being very Karsa-like).

I thought the Thel Akai were kinda like the original giant humans who's descendants include the Thelomen Toblakai, the Trell, the Barghast etc etc? I dunno though, they were a completely new addition in RotCG - I don't recall Erikson ever mentioning them before. (Presumably because Kallor basically wiped them all out except for Ereko....so actually, thinking about it, how could they pro-create and eventually evolve or devolve into the Toblakai et al?) Ack - I don't know!  :-X
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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2014, 07:43:47 PM »
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Also, is Kilmandaros' children the Forkrul Assail? She had a similar physical description to them and it would make sense for us to meet their Elder God.
She definitely is. I guess there is no existing being that matches her brute force.  ;D

I always got the impression the Thel Akai (Ereko's people from Return of the Crimson Guard), were her descendants, but I feel like that's just a 'fact' I've hobbled together from her size being compared to a toblakai when you first meet her (and just her overall demeanor being very Karsa-like).

I thought the Thel Akai were kinda like the original giant humans who's descendants include the Thelomen Toblakai, the Trell, the Barghast etc etc? I dunno though, they were a completely new addition in RotCG - I don't recall Erikson ever mentioning them before. (Presumably because Kallor basically wiped them all out except for Ereko....so actually, thinking about it, how could they pro-create and eventually evolve or devolve into the Toblakai et al?) Ack - I don't know!  :-X

I think that's what made me think she must have been the progenitor for the Thel Akai, because I assumed she was one of the first Toblakai based on her demeanor reminding me of a more brutish Karsa. I am pretty sure you're correct though. She has the joints and such of Forkrul Assail, so she's probably related to them in some way.

As for the Kallor thing, I would just assume the other races split off before Kallor eliminated all of the Thel Akai. Crossbreeding seems as big a factor in racial divergence as evolution in the Erikson/Esslemont world, so maybe Kallor was only hunting the purebloods? Plus, they wouldn't need as much time to make non-purebloods.

(I've heard Forge of Darkness expands a bit on what Kalimandaros actually is, but I haven't gotten around to that series yet  :().

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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2014, 12:58:00 PM »
Loved the prologue to this one...the least cryptic so far, I reckon  ;D

Also, where was Binadas sent? Because he wasn't with Tomad et al in The Bonehunters. What champions will he come back with? Seguleh? Avowed? Tiste Andii?
I think this was mentioned already, but since I'm not so sure, I put it in spoiler tags. If it hasn't been mentioned, it will be soon.
Spoiler for Hiden:
Binadas was the not so lucky captain of a certain vessel called Silanda and had an unfortunate encounter with Karsa earlier on...

It was mentioned in Bonehunters....Just after the showdown between the Edur fleet and the Bonehunters, Tomad received some devastating personal news....
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[Twilight]  "Word has come that among the Malazan fleet was a craft that had been captured, some time back and an ocean away, by the Edur. And that ship was gifted to one of Tomad's sons to command - a journey to the Nascent, a mission the nature of which Emperor Rhulad would not be told."
[Taralack]  "Tomad now believes his son is dead"
[Twilight]  "There can be no other possibility."

One of those bits of information where if you were still reeling from reading the magic battle it could have been easily overlooked as it isn't the most explicit revelation.

Are we supposed to know who Toc believes Redmask is?

And how in Hood's name did he end up with two K'Chain guards?....They are both young - I wonder if they are the offspring of the dying 'fiend' that was discovered by Factor Breneda Anict & Co. .... as there is no date on the journal entry it's hard to say.... but the fatal wounds look like they were made from the same or very similar weapons to the ones that Redmask is using. Maybe not that particular K'ell Hunter's fate was Redmask's victory - but perhaps he did kill their parent/guardian and now they see him as their leader? How long till they realise that he might be able to defeat one K'ell hunter at a time, but if he had to go up against two together...?

Curious about the contraptions that are being unearthed in Lether... bet Icarium would know what they were for - if he could remember, that is...and it just so happens that he is about to arrive...

....alongside Karsa who is more interested in fighting him than Rhulad. This should be interesting. Will they team up and become an unassailable force to be reckoned with? Or take one look at Rhulad, laugh their heads off and walk away because he is L'Oreal deficient? (Not worth it  :P )

And how will the arrival of the Bonehunters impact events?...they can't be that far away...



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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2014, 08:20:49 PM »
Just finished Book one nothing to add really just enjoying the story meeting old friends

The Onyx order looks interesting and I liked Clip welcome :D  and he avoided Ruin's strike

Good to see Toc again "so don't tell me the mask fooled them.Please...."   someone pretending to be Redmask or I'm I getting confused?

Enjoyed the scene with Hood,Menandore and Shadowthrone, Love Shadowthrone with his cane  :)
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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2020, 08:02:50 AM »
Here I go, some general comments.
I always have less to say on the first book, I'm still getting my bearings - for example, I'm still a bit confused on who all those Letherii are, the different factions.

I can't remember who the consort was/is - also a god, like Bugg/Mael, but which? (I know I could just go back to the other book to check...)

I felt really uncomfortable with the evil we were seeing in the first part. I'm not sure why it's new, maybe because it's more familiar, less military? All the torture and psychological harm...

"Page 81, certainty vs. ambivalence" --> I don't have the book with me today, I can't remember why I wrote this, hehe

Kettle setting the scene, what the group is doing, where they're going; no time yet for the big battle, wait for the one coming: is it Redmask? - now I've finished the book I'm still not sure if it's him.

Tehol and Bugg, wahey! And I love that their relationship hasn't changed, even now that Tehol knows he's a god ;D

Toc the unlucky! When did he last appear, was it only in Gardens of the Moon??

Redmask the First Sword of the K'Chain Che'Malle, wahey!

Silchas Ruin and Redmask would be good friends, they seem very similar - or maybe they'd clash?

That end! I wonder if they'll end up in a different place, that thing with the chain and the rings, rolling this way and that...

Oh, I'm missing that bit at the end of the books with the Warrens, Elder Races, and so on...
I'm so confused on who the gods are :(
I can't remember what the 3 sisters did, which one is the bad/good one (apart from what I'm reading now), who the Errant is, and all the other stuff, argh!
One day, when I'm retired maybe, hehe, I'll reread these books and I'll start taking notes from the very first book!

Scamandari Bloodeye was the one who betrayed Silchas Ruin, even though the Tiste Edur always believed it was the other way round, right? And apparently his soul is emprisoned somewhere. So why are they trying to release it?
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Re: Reaper's Gale: book 1
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2020, 01:17:06 PM »
Toc was in Memories of Ice if I recall correctly (whichever book it was that involved Coral).