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Midnight Tides: book 3
« on: April 02, 2014, 10:19:00 AM »
The story gains even more momentum now. What will happen when the Tiste arrive at Letheras?

Finally we see something of the Crimson Guard. They're as awesome as I hoped. And Iron Bars, a kind of immortal avowed... wow. Good company Seren found herself in. A pity that she has some issues now.

Does this helps us with our time line? If his great-granddaughter is about Seren's age, he's something between 80-120, so he probably vowed to remove Kellanved from the throne 40-80 years ago. Laseen took over 10-15 years before the events in the first three Malazan books I think (considering the age of Paran in the GotM prologue). So if the Crimson Guard has been in Lether for ..uhm.. 1-5 years? More? That means... No idea. Got myself confused right now. ;)

The Tiste Andii woman they freed - and who found herself at the Chained God's island has 'Korlat' in her name. Do you think she's related to Whiskeyjack's Korlat?

I'm really curious now who Bugg really is. An Elder God? He certainly led an interesting life... The scene where he talked to a Jaghut completely at ease...

And the Azath is now dead and turned to the Hold of Death. Interesting that the Letherii only now start to discover it.

What about Kettle, who has Forkrul Assail and some Nameless One in her? It will stay interesting with her... even more now that she's coming back to life.

The Rat's Guild is something interesting too and their Investigator Rucket too. Her interactions with Bugg and Tehol are funny.

Any idea if the three bodyguard brothers Brys provided are somebody we should know?

So we now know that the five dangerous entities under the tower of Azath are the Tatheral gods (Toblakai), whose statues Seren found in the wood.

Shurq, Harlest and Ublala want to be pirates? It's bound to stay interesting and hilarious with them.

Any idea what Rhulad (poor boy. The scene where he died again and wanted to stay dead but wasn't allowed...) wants with the Queen and Prince? Cripple them? Enslave them? Keep them as pets?
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Re: Midnight Tides: book 3
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2014, 07:42:04 PM »
The story gains even more momentum now. What will happen when the Tiste arrive at Letheras?

Finally we see something of the Crimson Guard. They're as awesome as I hoped. And Iron Bars, a kind of immortal avowed... wow.

I'm really curious now who Bugg really is. An Elder God? He certainly led an interesting life... The scene where he talked to a Jaghut completely at ease...

The Rat's Guild is something interesting too and their Investigator Rucket too. Her interactions with Bugg and Tehol are funny.


I rememberer Corporal Blue from Garden of the Moon I thought it was just him who who had the amazing  swordsman skills  I didn't realise that all of the Crimson Guards are all nearly equal in fighting ability and we get to meet another fascinating character in Iron Bars

Bugg with the Secondary just poking the eyes out to ruin the illusion was when I thought hold on there's something going on here and when he says to Tehol I don't wont to be worshipped

What's with all the cat meals does Erikson not like cats  :)

The Tiste Andii woman they freed - and who found herself at the Chained God's island has 'Korlat' in her name. Do you think she's related to Whiskeyjack's Korlat?


What about Kettle, who has Forkrul Assail and some Nameless One in her? It will stay interesting with her... even more now that she's coming back to life.


Shurq, Harlest and Ublala want to be pirates? It's bound to stay interesting and hilarious with them.



ooh I didnt know she had Korlet in her name wasn't concentrating haha

I love reading about Kettle  and Shurq,harlest and Ublala just make me giggle Shurq burgling with the ghosts  :)

Udinaas and Udinaas  relationship is great to read  with his shadow in the mix...
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Re: Midnight Tides: book 3
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2014, 12:49:54 AM »
Well it's all kicking off now!!  ;D

I wonder if the 'Pure Kin' assertion that gets Trull outcast refers to the wraiths, as they are Tiste Andii spirits. I can't think of anyone else at the moment...unless he finds out from Lilac (love the name 8)) that they have a common ancestor - although the Edur don't seem to have a very accurate grasp on their own history, so maybe not.

The Tiste Andii woman they freed - and who found herself at the Chained God's island has 'Korlat' in her name. Do you think she's related to Whiskeyjack's Korlat?

I noticed that...been trying to figure out if its possible that she is the same Korlat, but we dont really have enough info...other than a physical description - Korlat apparently still looked fairly young and had dark hair, Sandalath Drukorlat doesn't look particularly young and has red hair - also she seems to have a quicker temper than Korlat...but thats understandable, considering... :) Maybe the 'korlat' suffix is an indication of parentage? We don't know how long Drukorlat's spirit was wandering/hiding/trapped? in that warren so maybe she is Korlat's mother? grandmother? sister? aunt? or possibly no blood relation at all - 'korlat' could be as common a name as Smith for all we know. But it's probably not... there is likely to be some kind of connection between the two as there seems to be no such thing as coincidence in these books! :P

Shurq, Harlest and Ublala want to be pirates? It's bound to stay interesting and hilarious with them.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them end up on the same boat as the Crimson Guard  :D

Finally we see something of the Crimson Guard. They're as awesome as I hoped. And Iron Bars, a kind of immortal avowed... wow. Good company Seren found herself in. A pity that she has some issues now.
I rememberer Corporal Blue from Garden of the Moon I thought it was just him who who had the amazing  swordsman skills  I didn't realise that all of the Crimson Guards are all nearly equal in fighting ability and we get to meet another fascinating character in Iron Bars

The Crimson Guard are very cool.... wonder what they have been up to...they are Prince K'azz D'Avore's company of the Avowed, so presumably Caladan Brood (and Rake?) sent them here - which explains why they know about this island when the rest of the world seems to have forgotton? about it. Really looking forward to reading Return of the Crimson Guard now  :D

I'm really curious now who Bugg really is. An Elder God? He certainly led an interesting life... The scene where he talked to a Jaghut completely at ease...
Bugg with the Secondary just poking the eyes out to ruin the illusion was when I thought hold on there's something going on here and when he says to Tehol I don't wont to be worshipped

Yeah, Bugg is definitely a mystery - kind of reminds me of Kruppe in that respect - hard to pin down exactly who/what he is...
...and he is not the only one who is not quite what he seems, I think (ok, so that could apply to at least half the characters, but I'm thinking of one person in particular..) - Turudal Brizad, the Queen's first consort, seems to have an agenda that is not yet apparent...is he the 'pretty man' that has been watching Kettle, hiding in the shadows accross the street from the Azath house? Brys was advised by Silchas Ruin(?) to look for hope in the 'one who stands at your side' (at the time, if taken literally, he was holding Kettle's hand) and 'from the stranger upon the other side of the street' - Kettle's pretty man? It would make a nice change if the advice was  plain and literal for once!

Intersting that the Nerek have started to rediscover skills they had lost....they can travel by warren - what else can they do? Will they, the original indiginous people of this land (apparently), be the ultimate victors in this war?

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Midnight Tides: book 3
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2014, 06:14:25 PM »
Not much to add right now as I am a bit further on and will probably finish this evening.

Absolutely love The Crimson Guard. Iron Bars is fantastic. Cant wait to read more of them and to eventually meet Prince K'azz D'avore. Also, I think Seren Pedac is my favourite in this book. Wonderful character and I felt so horrible for her.

I also really like Trull (obviously) and Fear is excellent. Very realistically written for such literally alien characters.

Enjoyed Letheras much more in this part. Very curious about Bugg. And also who is Wither? (Udinaas' ghost Andii) I assumed it was Silchas Ruin but he is so obviously the one at the Azath house, what with his two swords.

It's certainly all coming to a head!




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Re: Midnight Tides: book 3
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2019, 09:02:13 AM »
(finally! what a long book...)
(this habit of writing down notes as I read is the best for posting here, hehe)

* Who is Bugg?? He seems to know a lot about old races, he describes buildings as they were ages ago as if he's seen them, and now he's called "the Waiting Man"?

* The whole play of politics...

* I love the Ceda and his devices! Especially his glasses, how everyone finds them strange, hehe It makes me wonder about living in a place/era without glasses, I'd be the beggar in the street corner as I couldn't seen anything well enough to work :o

* Buruk's story, how Erikson makes 'fleshy' characters in the smallest of ways

* Inbetween reading I wondered who the 'Seven emperors' were: I checked the gods and holds/decks of the other books, but still confused. T'Lan Imass the baddies??

* Letheras seems to have closed borders, no connection with the rest of the world where all the other races are still around, or even knowledge of old eras

* Avowed! They must be from Seven Cities, as they mention Emperor Kelanved. Who is IronBars? I wonder if we've met him before with another name?

* The detail of Bluerose tribes messing up the stirrups for Letherii, how when you're conquered you can still have a bit of revenge, hehe

I finished book 3 last night and this morning I already read the first chapter of book 4, which answered a bunch of my questions above (and raised a few more, hehe) :D


Edit: hmm some of your comments above actually belong to book 4 already ;) And wow, you all remember so much more than me! I completely missed the connection Crimson Guard/Seren and their mention before :(
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