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Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« on: February 03, 2014, 08:54:37 PM »
Hullo fellow along-readers! :)

I started Deadhouse Gates yesterday (since Lions hasn't arrived yet) and it feels alike to when I started GotM.
A lot is happening, you have no idea who the people are stuff is happening to and the cast of the first few chapters is bigger than that of some complete books...

I'm nevertheless enjoying it and having read GotM not long before clearly helps understanding things. :)
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 04:50:24 PM »
Omg. I just read the first section with Kalam, Fiddler, Crockus and Apsalar and it's incredible. Badass. Must read more...
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2014, 05:20:57 PM »
haha, it sounds great hopefully going to start at the weekend
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2014, 09:33:05 PM »
I'm still catching up with my Gardens reread (over halfway now) but hope to blitz through it this weekend. University coursework has been a killer the last few weeks but an assignment due on Friday so hopefully the weekend will be a bit more relaxing.  8)

Have you met Heboric et al yet? Great storyline that.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2014, 03:27:10 PM »
Omg. I just read the first section with Kalam, Fiddler, Crockus and Apsalar and it's incredible. Badass. Must read more...

I've just read this bit  :) go Fiddler

The Prologue with the prisoners  :o talk about a bloodthirsty scene
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2014, 05:41:42 PM »
Which chapters are you on?  I'm at chapter 12 of book 3

I've swapped book atm so I don't get too far ahead
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 05:49:48 PM »
Im about 50 pages behind you so not too far off

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2014, 08:42:21 PM »
Which chapters are you on?  I'm at chapter 12 of book 3

I've swapped book atm so I don't get too far ahead
I'm traveling at the moment and it's the only book I have with me. I'll finish it tomorrow (sorry). :)
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2014, 11:29:58 AM »
Just a minor thing

I'm not a writer but through the story I keep seeing the same word pop up quite a bit the word being "OCHRE" maybe it's because it's not a word I come across that often I notice it more?

now shouldn't you use a different word so you not over relying on the same word?

In GotM Erikson I also noticed a word that kept coming up as well "Sweating" I'm more familiar with this word but it seemed to pop up more then it should  have done
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2018, 07:53:33 PM »
So... lots of characters? Cool.
Complete confusion about who is where, and an inability to find anything on the damned map... no as much fun.

Where the hell are Fiddler and Kalam vs. Duiker and Coltaine? Are they in the same city or different? I have this idea that F&K are in the city that D&C will go to, and vice versa, and maybe they'll collide?

Without spoilers, can someone tell me where these people actually are?
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2018, 09:25:02 PM »
@JMack, the people from book 1 are only going to appear in book 3 now (well, mostly). Book 2 introduces us to a whole new set of characters but you'll grow to love them (or not) soon :)
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2018, 09:27:20 PM »
@JMack, the people from book 1 are only going to appear in book 3 now (well, mostly). Book 2 introduces us to a whole new set of characters but you'll grow to love them (or not) soon :)

Well, a few repeats, thought they were a bit minor in GotM.

Biut I still don’t know where anyone is!  :o
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2018, 09:34:14 PM »
I think - yeah, just double checked in my book - they all start outside the map and end up there after a while.
Map 1, that is (they will apear on the east coast).
Maps 2 and 3 are a detail of the southern area, and they'll only be useful from about halfway through.

Oh, now I want to read more Malazan... but need to cover a couple more unread ones at home before reading another 2 or 3 Malazan, hehe
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2018, 06:28:55 PM »
I honestly can't remember, @JMack. It's been four years... If it bothered me, it didn't for long and you'll eventually find out.

Malazan does this sometimes. You start a book and see for a long time no character you already know and had hoped to follow on further. This is a little bit annoying but the reward when story lines converge is so great that it's absolutely worth it.
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Re: Deadhouse Gates - First Impressions
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2018, 01:03:57 PM »
So... lots of characters? Cool.
Complete confusion about who is where, and an inability to find anything on the damned map... no as much fun.

Where the hell are Fiddler and Kalam vs. Duiker and Coltaine? Are they in the same city or different? I have this idea that F&K are in the city that D&C will go to, and vice versa, and maybe they'll collide?

Without spoilers, can someone tell me where these people actually are?
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Similarly to @xiagan I don't remember with much clarity. But I do remember the maps being generally useless and pretty much just having to go with the flow of whatever Erikson threw at me. Also I think the maps are even deliberately nebulous and misleading at points, because the whole series is basically a gigantic statement on the problem of using any form of source to compile a history - maps, stories, poems, and even character lists.  ;)

I wouldn't worry about it too much, especially in Deadhouse Gates. It's sort of the nature of that book that even the characters don't know where they are and are always on the move.
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