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M. R. Mathias

MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« on: May 20, 2012, 07:27:36 PM »
I am not a small press. I am an author with 18 titles for sale. That is more titles that some big publishing houses. I have advertising currently running in Locus, Publishers Weekly, Fantasy and Sci Fi, and Revolver magazines. I have blog advertising across the entire blog-o-sphere. I am not a small press or even self published. M. R. Mathias' books are PUBLISHED by Michael Robb Mathias Jr. and should be treated no differently that any big named publishers title. WHY? Because I do my job as a publisher too. Please quit sending my posts into the self published/small press thread. My titles are neither. I have 92k twitter followers @DahgMahn and 10 titles in their genre bestselling list. There is nothing self pubbed, or small, about books written by M. R. Mathias.
Thank you,
        M.R.Mathias' publisher, Michael Robb Mathias Jr.

        Get the first five chapter of M.R.s new novel ***The Wizard and the Warlord - The Wardstone Trilogy Book III*** in .pdf here: http://www.mrmathias.com/files/Wardstone-III_Ch1-5_Preview.pdf



Gariath

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2012, 08:07:10 PM »
Cos the aggressive tone of this post has really convinced us all? Honestly, I will from now on avoid your label like the plague!
The last Rhega.

Lor

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2012, 08:12:29 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always believed small-press were groups that only published themselves and maybe a few others?

Also, I don't believe you've gone about this the correct way; a DM to the correct people in a much less aggresive tone would have made your "case" a lot more sympathetic. Please try and be a least a little more friendly in future.
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye." - Miss Piggy

AnneLyle

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2012, 08:19:44 PM »
10 titles in whose genre bestseller lists? Twitter's?

You publish your own books. Ergo you are self-published. I agree with Lor - this should have been dealt with discreetly, not by throwing a tantrum on the forum.
Elizabethan fantasy trilogy The Alchemist of SoulsThe Merchant of Dreams and The Prince of Lies out now from Angry Robot Books!

Overlord

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2012, 08:35:40 PM »
I'm moving this to the small press section.

(Who says I don't have a sense of humour!)

pornokitsch

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2012, 08:39:04 PM »
Speaking as a mod and a small press publisher, I'm doubly offended by the tone of this post.

M. R. Mathias

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2012, 08:40:26 PM »
10 titles in whose genre bestseller lists? Twitter's?

You publish your own books. Ergo you are self-published. I agree with Lor - this should have been dealt with discreetly, not by throwing a tantrum on the forum.


FYI read the the heading for this post. It is for MODS. Not you. There is no agressive tone Ma'am. And if Stephen King suddenly started King Publishing would he be a self publisher? I think not. A pen name is a brand, and mine is selling books at a level above a ton of big publisher's imprints. For me wanting to be treated as such is no crime. Nor should it cause offense. When people see my titles and posts in the self pubbed area that groups me with them. I am proud to have risen from those roots, and for you to chastise me over this request is well.... Sick and petty. 

I want my books to be placed on the level they are actually on. Where is there a wrong side of that?

To Respond though: If you dont read my books that is your loss. Really it is your loss. I have a 4.5 star rating after 90 reviews at B&N.
Appearantly someone likes them, if you chose not to read one of the best fantasy trils ever written then by all means take a pass.

To answer your question:
Amazon Kindle Store's Bestseller list.  B&N's fantasy list. 4 titles in the top 5k of the whole B&N store.

10 titles in the top 10k at Amazon's WHOLE STORE.

Also the Goodreads Best Indie Novels list at #2 with 400 votes... which irritates me too, but whatever.

I have award winning titles folks. 2011 Readers favorite Award - The Butcher's Boy by Michael Robb Mathias. It was #24 in the Amazon Bestsellers list. ot a genre list. THE Bestsellers list at Amazon.

You and your eBullying will only make people think bad of you.  My request to the MODS is polite, civil, normal, reasonable, and backed by fact.

Thank you, if you aree not a MOD this post is not for you. If it irritates you and you are a self pubbed author, get over it. Use it as inspiration for what your books can be.     M.R.



M. R. Mathias

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 08:43:00 PM »
Speaking as a mod and a small press publisher, I'm doubly offended by the tone of this post.

The only ill tone you find in my original post stems from your jelousy. I did not swear, threaten, or even do anything other than state facts. So why is my post offensive? I was even polite. Please tell us why this bothers you. Is it because I have sales? Reviews? Followers? Success?  My 92k twitter follwers want to know.

pornokitsch

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2012, 08:48:39 PM »
My request to the MODS is polite, civil, normal, reasonable, and backed by fact.

Your request to the mods didn't need to be made in a public forum. A nicely worded email may have done the trick. This won't.

Please stop.

M. R. Mathias

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2012, 08:53:21 PM »
I'm moving this to the small press section.

(Who says I don't have a sense of humour!)

OVERLORD! That is sorta funny, but.....  Dont hide my responses from the people who attacked my thread. See how many hits it got in two minutes at the main heading? thats because its interesting.  

I am @BookReTweeter on twitter and a founding member of the Independent Authors Network too, so I do more for self pubbed/small press authors than most of you. Dont think they'll turn against me. I am a one of their Champions. Pay attention.

M. R. Mathias

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2012, 08:54:30 PM »
I'm moving this to the small press section.

(Who says I don't have a sense of humour!)

OVERLORD! That is sorta funny, but.....  Dont hide my responses from the people who attacked my thread. See how many hits it got in two minutes at the main heading? thats because its interesting.  

I am @BookReTweeter on twitter and a founding member of the Independent Authors Network too, so I do more for self pubbed/small press authors than most of you. Dont think they'll turn against me. I am a one of their Champions. Pay attention.

I would be ashamed of the MODS initial reaction and try to hide it from the main threads if I were you too.  
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 08:57:00 PM by M. R. Mathias »

Lor

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2012, 08:58:05 PM »
I'm moving this to the small press section.

(Who says I don't have a sense of humour!)

OVERLORD! That is sorta funny, but.....  Dont hide my responses from the people who attacked my thread. See how many hits it got in two minutes at the main heading? thats because its interesting.  

I am @BookReTweeter on twitter and a founding member of the Independent Authors Network too, so I do more for self pubbed/small press authors than most of you. Dont think they'll turn against me. I am a one of their Champions. Pay attention.

I wasn't going to respond to this again, but now it's just getting silly. None of us were attacking your thread, we merely pointed out that you appeared to have missed a point that is rather obvious to the rest of us, and that this should not be a public argument. Please stop.

Also please stop bragging about groups you're part of as though that makes what you're doing ok; it just makes you come across as arrogant, and is really not helping your cause.
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it may be necessary from time to time to give a stupid or misinformed beholder a black eye." - Miss Piggy

Overlord

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2012, 08:59:40 PM »
Perhaps the most entertaining thread in Fantasy-Faction history. And, I must say that I admire your confidence in your own abilities. Sadly, all good things must come to an end.

pornokitsch

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2012, 09:06:56 PM »
I would be ashamed of the MODS initial reaction and try to hide it from the main threads if I were you too.  

Congratulations! You've just earned a trip to the naughty corner. You can commiserate with your 92,000 Twitter followers. Next time, it is permanent.

- MOD

Autumn2May

Re: MODS PLEASE READ THIS POST!
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2012, 09:09:32 PM »
Mr. Mathias,

As, you have posted this in the public forum I will respond in the public forum.

First of all, Small Press is defined by Wikipedia (related to US publishers) as a publishing house that makes under $50 million dollars a year and publishes fewer than 10 titles a year.  Unless you are making and publishing more than that, in the US, you are considered a Small Press publisher.  There is nothing wrong with being a small press publisher.  If you look purely at the numbers a company could make $40 million dollars a year and publish 9 books a year and still be considered small press.  That does not make them less successful or the work they publish less important.  But it still means they are small press.

There are lots of people who have their work published in small press houses and there are a lot of people who self-publish their work.  We at Fantasy-Faction feel there is a place for every type of fantasy on our shelves and on our site, which is why we have the Small Press & Self-Published section in the forms and regularly review titles from both types on the main site.

I am very happy that your work is so successful and appreciate that you enjoy posting about it on our site.  But your work is small pressed published and therefore belongs in the small press section.  pornokitsch, who posted above is also a small press publisher.  He posts about his anthologies here all the time, and does so in the appropriate section of the forums.  If you would like to continue posting about your work here, please feel free to do so, but do it in the appropriate places.

Secondly, in this forum we are treat people with respect at all times.  I do not allow people to disrespect our forum members or mods.  It’s rude and uncalled for.

Third, if you have a problem with the way the site is run, you can private message any of the staff and they will discuss the problem with you.  Posting your complaints in the public forum is not professional.  You can’t just put ‘Only Mods Read This’ in the title then expect no one else to respond.  That’s not how the forum works.

Further comments can be private messaged to me, or one of the other mods.  Thank you.

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