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Title: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on November 01, 2016, 06:02:30 PM
1750

(http://img14.deviantart.net/d025/i/2013/205/b/b/time_traveler_by_ldragomir593-d6eu92q.jpg)
Time Traveler by Jezzy-Art (http://jezzy-art.deviantart.com/), who does book covers too if you need one and like her art. :)

You or someone from our time is transported back to the year 1750 (start of the industrial revolution) with everything you/they know. There's no going back. What is your/their plan (for world domination)? What can or will go wrong?

Rules:

1. This must be prose or poetry.
2. The main character must travel back from our time to the year 1750 (no return).
3. Prose must be 500-1750 words long.
4. Poetry must be 100-750 words long.
5. One story per person or writing team (not per account).
6. You will be disqualified if you exceed the limits, full stop. That's why they're called limits.
7. Your entry can't be published somewhere else before.
8. This is a writing contest, not a "I have written something like this ten years ago" contest. So if you happen to have a story that fits one of the themes, I'd like it to have a mayor overhaul/edit. Work for it. ;)
9. Please add your story's word count and, if you have, your twitter handle.
10. Please put your story in [ spoiler ] tags to make the thread easier to handle. :) You can find them above the smileys next to the 'youtube' symbol.

Entry will close November 30th/December 1st, 2016 and voting will begin somewhere around the same time too.

The winner will have their piece displayed on the main Fantasy Faction website sometime in the next months.

Please post your entry here (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/1750-234/(nov-2016)-1750-submission-thread/).

Note: This thread is only for questions or discussing this month's writing contest. Good luck!

Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on November 01, 2016, 06:46:14 PM
When I first saw the title, I swear, for a second I thought "Wow, this month, we're going to get 1750 words for our short stories instead of 1500!"

:0
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Osahon on November 01, 2016, 06:47:53 PM
So, does this mean our story can take place anywhere in the world as long as it's 1750?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 01, 2016, 06:50:04 PM
So, does this mean our story can take place anywhere in the world as long as it's 1750?
Yes, but it must be fantasy ;)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Osahon on November 01, 2016, 06:59:27 PM
So, does this mean our story can take place anywhere in the world as long as it's 1750?
Yes, but it must be fantasy ;)
So the way they go back in time should be fantastical but the story should take place in the real world?
Like Outlander?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on November 01, 2016, 07:15:54 PM
Actually, I kept the description short on purpose to give you more leeway.
You are free to choose someone from our time and free to choose a place. Only the year is set.

The fact that somebody goes back in time is enough to qualify it as fantasy (yes, like outlander), the rest is in your hands.
I do think adding some kind of magic ruins the theme, though.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 01, 2016, 07:18:40 PM
Mmmh... Is the world dominion thing compulsory?  :'(
I find that a lot less interesting. It forces to assume that our character wants to dominate the world, and a forced setting, forced plot key point and forced character trait makes things a bit constraining and standard.
None of the characters I can think up would be the type to wish for world dominion. I favor underdogs and people with miserable lives, not world conquerors... It also keeps us from making the jump in time from happening at the ending part of the story.
I know, I like to complain and usually tend to like the topics in the end, but this is a heartfelt question.... Can it be "anyone" in 1750?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 01, 2016, 07:21:10 PM
I do think adding some kind of magic ruins the theme, though.
So that would include someone in 1750 using magic to drag someone through time to help them with some task?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on November 01, 2016, 07:39:24 PM
@Nora: You're good. Did you see the parentheses around the world domination? And the part where it didn't show up in the actual rules? :)

@NightWrite: Nope, it would not. Interesting prospect to have the travel initiated by somebody from back then. Didn't think about this at all!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 01, 2016, 07:46:06 PM
I do think adding some kind of magic ruins the theme, though.
So that would include someone in 1750 using magic to drag someone through time to help them with some task?

I thought of that in my shower. I thought the best angle would be steam-punk however. Like some scientists not realising how good their maths was and actually opening a time portal.

@xiagan : nope, sorry, I read this on my phone in the shower (seconds before turning the tap on!) so I took it all literally.
I feel happily freed now, and might revisit an old character of mine who had nothing but her grief at the time, and might get a story entirely now... Maybe, it need stewing.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 01, 2016, 07:55:10 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8dVElW3chk[/youtube]
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 01, 2016, 08:18:59 PM
Pride and Prejudice

"Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are sent back in time in order to save the present.

Living as peasants instead of lords, their (lack of) abilities only allows them to pass the days on minimum subsistence levels. Donald is forced to begrudgingly work the fields among the slaves and the poor while Hillary works as a barmaid in a local tavern.

Decided to survive, they form an alliance. Donald soon stirs up the anger and resentment of the workers and Hillary uses her machiavellian skills on the local barons and counts to start a revolution that will bring them back to the good life they were so used to.

As America's Independence approaches, they are also decided to change the course of History with their own views, and in the midst of the war, realize that opposites indeed attract and they were made for each other."
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 01, 2016, 08:23:06 PM
Please, stop.

I'm not sure if I want to read this a lot, or break your fingers before you can make it happen, I'm very confused.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on November 01, 2016, 08:55:04 PM

I do think adding some kind of magic ruins the theme, though.
Even alchemy?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 01, 2016, 09:20:03 PM
Dear Powers of Infinite Authoritay, would you please consider expanding the limit of 1500 words for the November contest to 1750, for both symbolic and practical reasons?

We have the additional burdens of integrating a time-travel sequence and communicating our plans for world domination, and 250 words of additional space ought to be enough to allow us to both overcome these issues and present a short tale.

If my voice sounds tinny, it's because I have not yet worked the bugs out of my chrono-ansible, and its brass composition makes for unpleasant reverb. Please consider my request so that I can accomplish the tasks for which I was sent back in time. Otherwise, I will have to abandon our plans and seek out your ancestors. Don't worry, I won't harm them. But I might introduce a genetic mutation or two.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 01, 2016, 10:09:41 PM
I do think adding some kind of magic ruins the theme, though.
Even alchemy?
Note that xia's opinion is not mine. I will favour more fantasy-related stories/elements in my voting ;)
(similar to my comment on Pirates, that m3m didn't really get)

Edit: speaking as a plain member, not as moderator of the contest
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 01, 2016, 10:45:15 PM
Time to dust off the DeLorean.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 01, 2016, 11:05:32 PM
I already have a couple of characters and a vague idea of the plot. It'll be full of depressive dialogue, no traditional fictional time travel, and it will probably get more likes than votes and I don't care, I'm enjoying my premise a lot.  ;D


Edit : I actually plan on trying to get some humour inside that one. And grief as well. Intense, burning marital love is also on the menu.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on November 01, 2016, 11:06:53 PM
I want to second the vote for 1750 words, but purely because it's so darn fitting!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Osahon on November 01, 2016, 11:08:48 PM
I'm mostly doing research right now because I don't want my story to have a traditional setting.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: TOMunro on November 01, 2016, 11:36:30 PM
Wow, 1759 is my absolute favourite year - and my early writing were poor attempts at Nelsonic Naval novels of near that time.

I guess the theme is essentially time travel and the power to use knowledge from the future.

But then how much knowledge do we really hold in our tiny heads, when mostly these days it's a matter of google it on your smart phone and I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be much of a 3G network back then, and finding a charging port or a wireless hotspot would be difficult. 

Hmm - very interesting.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 01, 2016, 11:56:57 PM
580 words in, typed in my phone instead of sleeping, talk about inspiration hitting like a high speed train.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 02, 2016, 02:53:12 AM
I'm mostly doing research right now because I don't want my story to have a traditional setting.

This will be my mode of attack for now too.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: J.R. Darewood on November 02, 2016, 05:05:54 AM
Pride and Prejudice

"Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are sent back in time in order to save the present.

Living as peasants instead of lords, their (lack of) abilities only allows them to pass the days on minimum subsistence levels. Donald is forced to begrudgingly work the fields among the slaves and the poor while Hillary works as a barmaid in a local tavern.

Decided to survive, they form an alliance. Donald soon stirs up the anger and resentment of the workers and Hillary uses her machiavellian skills on the local barons and counts to start a revolution that will bring them back to the good life they were so used to.

As America's Independence approaches, they are also decided to change the course of History with their own views, and in the midst of the war, realize that opposites indeed attract and they were made for each other."

Don't listen to Nora. I NEED to read this!!!!!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 02, 2016, 05:36:12 AM
Please, stop.

I'm not sure if I want to read this a lot, or break your fingers before you can make it happen, I'm very confused.

And so now we know just how dark is too dark for Nora - Trump & Hillary
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 02, 2016, 10:08:43 AM
I want to second the vote for 1750 words, but purely because it's so darn fitting!
I'm tempted to say yes this time, mostly for the fitting.
@xiagan, what do you think? An early Christmas present?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 02, 2016, 05:44:37 PM
I want to second the vote for 1750 words, but purely because it's so darn fitting!
I'm tempted to say yes this time, mostly for the fitting.
@xiagan, what do you think? An early Christmas present?

Any final thoughts on that @xiagan ? I'm 1000 words in and wouldn't want to make a healthy story with too many words!  :P
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on November 02, 2016, 06:27:14 PM
I have to admit that it fits really well indeed.
You don't have to write the time travel scene, though, so that is not a reason, @GC. ;)

I'm okay with it but you have to realize that with 18 stories that means 4500 words (three normal stories) more everybody has to read.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 02, 2016, 06:30:25 PM
Can some gentle souls, happy enough that we let some people write 1750 words, nevertheless write shorter stories? ;D
Much appreciated!

(already the Corpses month has messed up with my reading scheme: not good enough to start reading only halfway through the month, not with 22 stories :o )
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 02, 2016, 06:37:09 PM
Awesome thanks, it'll leave me more room to mess with people's heads. Or try to. Ya know. *struggles to smother impostor syndrome feelings*
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on November 02, 2016, 08:17:49 PM
Found another really could pic I could've used for the first post:

(http://img13.deviantart.net/e250/i/2010/235/a/c/time_trvellers_by_thanostsilis.jpg)
"time travellers" by ThanosTsilis. It's for a time traveller's guide for dummies".  ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 02, 2016, 08:18:57 PM
It's Trump and Hillary!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on November 02, 2016, 08:31:23 PM
I agree with the increased word limit, because it is so fitting. Just because you have 1750 words to play with doesn't mean you have to use them all, though.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 02, 2016, 08:37:59 PM
Damn I really have 1 666 words of pure 'out of topic' story  ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 02, 2016, 09:46:08 PM
Damn it, I'm IN!! I'm first, for the first time ever! Wrote this damn thing in two sittings, last night when the idea hit, and today to flesh and polish it.
It's the first time this happens since my first submission two years ago for Rogues, *does the happy dance* !

It's so out of topic, I don't even get why I bothered entering it here rather than the critique thread. Sorry Bea  ;D

Edit : i'm having issues with my use of the lemniscate, the symbol for infinity. When i add it to my story, it shows up fine, but if I refresh the page and click to expend the spoiler tag again, it has turned into a question mark.
What do you see? Is it due to the spoiler tag, or is it always like this?

Here, let me write a lemniscate : ?

Edit 2 : nope, as soon as I refresh this page the lemniscate turns into a question mark. But do you guys ever see the lemniscate before it disappears? And what the hell with that anyway?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 02, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
^ @Lanko, see how it's done? ;)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 02, 2016, 10:16:36 PM
^ @Lanko, see how it's done? ;)

......

And here me thinking "Hey, I got an idea on the first day, silly as it is!"

But that's ok, from 22nd position to 2nd, that's cool too  ::)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 02, 2016, 10:18:31 PM
^ @Lanko, see how it's done? ;)

......

And here me thinking "Hey, I got an idea on the first day, silly as it is!"

But that's ok, from 22nd position to 2nd, that's cool too  ::)
AAAwwwwwwww, soooooorrry :-[
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 02, 2016, 10:20:57 PM
^ @Lanko, see how it's done? ;)

To be fair, the idea of star crossed lovers, the man called Bobby and dying, the woman being a genius scientist, is not entirely new. Over a year ago I wanted to write a story where the world was so fundamentally collapsing on itself that only travel to another dimension could grant survival. The female MC would have gone home from being interrogated by gvt to find her lover Bobby would have committed suicide. It had no plot though, just a unwieldy premise. I guess having the characters more or less fleshed out in the back of my head really helped, though the original story was not meant to be in 1st person present tense.

@Lanko : beware, there are some silent but deadly fast guns in this contest! Write awaaaaay!!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 02, 2016, 10:25:47 PM
^ @Lanko, see how it's done? ;)

To be fair, the idea of star crossed lovers, the man called Bobby and dying, the woman being a genius scientist, is not entirely new. Over a year ago I wanted to write a story where the world was so fundamentally collapsing on itself that only travel to another dimension could grant survival. The female MC would have gone home from being interrogated by gvt to find her lover Bobby would have committed suicide. It had no plot though, just a unwieldy premise. I guess having the characters more or less fleshed out in the back of my head really helped, though the original story was not meant to be in 1st person present tense.

@Nora, have you read The Shadow Out of Time, by Lovecraft? It has quite some of those themes, in the form of an alien species that are able to switch minds with other beings even through time.

There's a particularly awesome scene when they move to another home planet (switching minds), then the other species gets horrified by seeing their family and friends in alien bodies, then themselves and then they look at the sky and there's the freaking Sun approaching. Meanwhile the mind-switching aliens simply go live the good life in other bodies in a good planet and keep doing that eternally.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Osahon on November 02, 2016, 11:31:22 PM
Well, I've posted mine :)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 02, 2016, 11:33:36 PM
Two submissions already?  :o Seriously, y'all.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Osahon on November 02, 2016, 11:34:27 PM
Two submissions already?  :o Seriously, y'all.
;D ::)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on November 02, 2016, 11:40:44 PM
Two submissions already?  :o Seriously, y'all.
;D ::)

Terrifying visions of one or two submissions a day all through the month, each of 1750 words...........

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qhi_jk6pgPM/UniIXcnZm2I/AAAAAAAAHN8/uftT8O6P_W8/s400/mountain+of+paper.jpg)


Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 03, 2016, 01:13:35 AM
Two submissions already?  :o Seriously, y'all.
;D ::)

Terrifying visions of one or two submissions a day all through the month, each of 1750 words...........

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qhi_jk6pgPM/UniIXcnZm2I/AAAAAAAAHN8/uftT8O6P_W8/s400/mountain+of+paper.jpg)
We were warned.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 03, 2016, 01:17:46 AM
So far it's fine. I'm still going to shave stuff off mine, and the second story is already balancing mine out by not even bein 1200 words long.
You're yet to be overloaded.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on November 03, 2016, 12:28:41 PM
Um, @xiagan , is the 1,750 official or just a Forum myth?

And I have absolutely no idea what I'm writing for this month yet.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on November 03, 2016, 01:33:26 PM
Um, @xiagan , is the 1,750 official or just a Forum myth?

And I have absolutely no idea what I'm writing for this month yet.
Check the rules. ;)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 03, 2016, 02:52:04 PM
Uhm. I think I just heard an idea whisper in my ear...

Is it? Damn, it sure is.

I need to go write!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/gUlm9edDooQFy/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on November 03, 2016, 02:53:23 PM
I just had a killer idea for an ending. Now I just need the rest of the story to fit it.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 03, 2016, 02:55:38 PM
I just had a killer idea for an ending. Now I just need the rest of the story to fit it.

The ending is the best place to start IMO!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 03, 2016, 03:57:29 PM
I just had a killer idea for an ending. Now I just need the rest of the story to fit it.

The ending is the best place to start IMO!

Every month I start with the same ending, with everyone dying or seeing others die  :(
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 03, 2016, 04:04:07 PM
Perhaps it's time to determine a new destination. Not all roads lead to Rome.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 03, 2016, 04:54:48 PM
Perhaps it's time to determine a new destination. Not all roads lead to Rome.

Nope, they all do, we all die one day  :D
I'm also pretty sure that I'm unable to write anything fun or light hearted. Ideas just never come up to me. I'm pretty sure writing comes as a fail safe to keep me from going on murdering sprees. It's why I started after all :p
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 03, 2016, 08:16:18 PM
I just had a killer idea for an ending. Now I just need the rest of the story to fit it.

The ending is the best place to start IMO!

Every month I start with the same ending, with everyone dying or seeing others die  :(

Add more floppy-eared puppies in there somewhere. Maybe that will turn the tide.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 03, 2016, 08:17:19 PM
I just had a killer idea for an ending. Now I just need the rest of the story to fit it.

The ending is the best place to start IMO!

Every month I start with the same ending, with everyone dying or seeing others die  :(

Add more floppy-eared puppies in there somewhere. Maybe that will turn the tide.

They will be just carnivorous and human-flesh hunger monsters in disguise.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 03, 2016, 08:20:14 PM
I just had a killer idea for an ending. Now I just need the rest of the story to fit it.

The ending is the best place to start IMO!

Every month I start with the same ending, with everyone dying or seeing others die  :(

Add more floppy-eared puppies in there somewhere. Maybe that will turn the tide.

They will be just carnivorous and human-flesh hunger monsters in disguise.

You're probably right.

I could see Nora turning them into something like this:
**WARNING**gross/ew/omg factor - dont look @ScarletBea
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/6qG4WO0ezvjSE/200.gif#0)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 03, 2016, 08:23:34 PM
Kill it. With fire. Do it now.  ???
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 03, 2016, 08:29:34 PM
I just had a killer idea for an ending. Now I just need the rest of the story to fit it.

The ending is the best place to start IMO!

Every month I start with the same ending, with everyone dying or seeing others die  :(

Add more floppy-eared puppies in there somewhere. Maybe that will turn the tide.

They will be just carnivorous and human-flesh hunger monsters in disguise.

You're probably right.

I could see Nora turning them into something like this:
**WARNING**gross/ew/omg factor - dont look @ScarletBea
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/6qG4WO0ezvjSE/200.gif#0)

Hahaha! This made me laugh for real.

(https://ugc.kn3.net/i/760x/http://www.comobromear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/F08.gif)

However, let me reference you to my under appreciated puppy story, where the main character goes looking for her missing pug :

http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/(may-2015)-fairytales/(may-2015)-fairytales-submission-thread/msg101094/#msg101094

if tl;dr :
Fairies eat dog, so the puppy has long been eaten, MOUAHAHAHA
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 03, 2016, 08:33:41 PM
I didn't.
Thanks for the warning (was it really bad? if you summarise in words it has lower effect hehe)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 03, 2016, 08:37:10 PM
I didn't.
Thanks for the warning (was it really bad? if you summarise in words it has lower effect hehe)

It's a horrible CGI dog alien whose head splits in half and there are teeth and stuff inside, like The Thing. Bad CGI though, so it's ok  ;)

Edit : @Lanko, How many words in??

(http://cdn1.matadornetwork.com/blogs/1/2014/03/writer-moments1.gif)

Come on, let's have you publish in the third week at the latest this month.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on November 03, 2016, 08:55:02 PM
Not sure I can make the story come together, but I do have a really good title.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 03, 2016, 08:57:59 PM

Edit : @Lanko, How many words in??

(http://www.silverdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/zero.jpg)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 03, 2016, 09:02:18 PM
i have nothing but boring story ideas so far.

pretty sure nobody wants to read about a bromance with benjamin franklin.

lame.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 03, 2016, 09:16:11 PM
I wouldn't worry about Mr. Franklin - he won't be available. I've got him embroiled in a scheme in 1750 already.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 03, 2016, 10:34:57 PM
Depends who you try to ship Franklin with. They better be easier on the eyes though cause Ben wasn't a top model.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain of the Guard on November 04, 2016, 10:46:13 AM
Nice subject, but as I read it a pure time travel story? Though I guess one could travel to some seedy
tavern to find some secret society or some destitute alchemist.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on November 05, 2016, 12:40:47 AM
Depends who you try to ship Franklin with. They better be easier on the eyes though cause Ben wasn't a top model.
He may have been better looking before he got old and fat, although he was in his mid 40's by 1750. He seemed to have a bit of a reputation for playing the field.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 05, 2016, 01:11:55 AM
Depends who you try to ship Franklin with. They better be easier on the eyes though cause Ben wasn't a top model.
He may have been better looking before he got old and fat, although he was in his mid 40's by 1750. He seemed to have a bit of a reputation for playing the field.

so, what are you trying to say about guys in their mid-forties?  huh?  huh?  i see how you are . . .
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on November 07, 2016, 01:51:45 AM
The idea just hit me, and I'm deep in it. Damn it, sometimes I wish I could order up something to exact specifications rather than having to take what the back brain provide. But you can't ignore it. The back brain giveth and the back brain taketh away.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 07, 2016, 02:06:57 AM
Depends who you try to ship Franklin with. They better be easier on the eyes though cause Ben wasn't a top model.
He may have been better looking before he got old and fat, although he was in his mid 40's by 1750. He seemed to have a bit of a reputation for playing the field.

so, what are you trying to say about guys in their mid-forties?  huh?  huh?  i see how you are . . .

I had an irish/kiwi lover who was 47, when I was 24. He was called Bobby (ha...ha...ha...) and I couldn't get the man out of my head for the longest time. So nah, nothing against mid-fourties men, but come ON, I'm not shipping him with anything.

(http://www.whatsoproudlywehail.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Benjamin_Franklin.jpg?x65350)

@Jmack are you seriously complaining about the magic happening in the tinkering op-shop that is the back of our brains? It's like alchemy labs down there. Brain ideas, best ideas. Don't wish for "order to specifications" stuff. You sound like a vegan german engineer (I hope no one gets offended by that joke)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on November 07, 2016, 02:24:27 AM
Actually, I'm pretty happy with the back brain's contribution. I needed a good laugh.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain of the Guard on November 07, 2016, 10:06:44 AM
 I have to say that this months subject is hard. I'm trying to find an angle I can start from
but it eludes me still. Using another calendar feels like "cheating" .
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on November 07, 2016, 10:34:33 AM
Using another calendar feels like "cheating" .
If you are in the year 1750 and in another calendar it is called the year 523, it's okay in my opinion. You could always add a visitor from England or Portugal to your story to have one person with the "right" calendar in it, if it bothers you to much.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on November 07, 2016, 11:16:15 AM
Using another calendar feels like "cheating" .
If you are in the year 1750 and in another calendar it is called the year 523, it's okay in my opinion. You could always add a visitor from England or Portugal to your story to have one person with the "right" calendar in it, if it bothers you to much.
But what about using 1750 from a different calendar? So like 1750 in the Hebrew calendar, which would be 2000 BCE in our calendar? Think that's what the good Captain's talking about.  :o
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain of the Guard on November 07, 2016, 11:44:14 AM
Using another calendar feels like "cheating" .
If you are in the year 1750 and in another calendar it is called the year 523, it's okay in my opinion. You could always add a visitor from England or Portugal to your story to have one person with the "right" calendar in it, if it bothers you to much.
But what about using 1750 from a different calendar? So like 1750 in the Hebrew calendar, which would be 2000 BCE in our calendar? Think that's what the good Captain's talking about.  :o

Exactly Raptori !
 I have found some very promising calendars, that would put more in my " comfort zone" but that is not what these writing competions are about, right ?
 nah, I'll just work the angles a bit longer this time =)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 08, 2016, 02:55:12 AM
I'm 500 words in!

I'm confident I will have it up before the final week  ::)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 08, 2016, 03:45:32 AM
I'm stalled. I saw Nora's submission and was so flummoxed, flabbergasted, and kerfuffled by it that I didn't even realize it was fricking present tense. I think it may be my favorite story in more than a decade. This is ME, the card-carrying member and chief executive of the Present Tense Hater's Club ... so I'm sitting in an ocean of wrong, with 250 words that can only be described as nowhere near as good, waiting for a wind of right to sweep into my sails.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 08, 2016, 12:50:56 PM
Aww!! I'm sorry that your very heartfelt appreciation makes you stall like that. Sadly I've had that feeling before, of other people's ideas dimming mine or altering it, so as a rule I simply never read other people's work before submitting mine.
Ignore my story entirely. it doesn't even fit the theme well, I'm gonna get buried by cool DeLoreans and steampunk time machines. Make your own thing with pride! Also, hoping to cheer you up :

(https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/designs/12388079,width=178,height=178/past-present-future-walk-into-a-bar.png)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain of the Guard on November 08, 2016, 01:12:31 PM
Found an angle, let's hope I can pull it off  :)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 08, 2016, 01:26:23 PM
I'm stalled. I saw Nora's submission and was so flummoxed, flabbergasted, and kerfuffled by it that I didn't even realize it was fricking present tense. I think it may be my favorite story in more than a decade. This is ME, the card-carrying member and chief executive of the Present Tense Hater's Club ... so I'm sitting in an ocean of wrong, with 250 words that can only be described as nowhere near as good, waiting for a wind of right to sweep into my sails.

that is EXACTLY why i don't read any of the stories before i write mine.  it blows up my brain.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 08, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
I'm stalled. I saw Nora's submission and was so flummoxed, flabbergasted, and kerfuffled by it that I didn't even realize it was fricking present tense. I think it may be my favorite story in more than a decade. This is ME, the card-carrying member and chief executive of the Present Tense Hater's Club ... so I'm sitting in an ocean of wrong, with 250 words that can only be described as nowhere near as good, waiting for a wind of right to sweep into my sails.

that is EXACTLY why i don't read any of the stories before i write mine.  it blows up my brain.

I don't even start reading until the second week of the next contest at least  ::)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 08, 2016, 05:52:41 PM
Not to worry Nora, I'm not that egotistical really. I would rather be outshined by the shiny than be the best of a lusterless row of trinkets in a gift shop shelf. I got wrapped up in my WIP. For me, writing has been like sailing in high wind, for those who know the joy and terror of taking a boat as far over as it can without capsizing. That's my analogy for today.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain of the Guard on November 10, 2016, 01:58:37 PM
900 hundred words in, it has been a struggle and I'm still not sure
about the story!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 12, 2016, 01:07:49 AM
Almost 2 weeks in and only 2 submissions? Where is everyone?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 12, 2016, 01:15:04 AM
Almost 2 weeks in and only 2 submissions? Where is everyone?

personally, i'm having issues coming up with an interesting twist.  i've had several boring stories pop into my head, but nothing interesting at all.  the constraints related to the topic make it really difficult to come up with some kind of surprise.

well, other than a brutally dark poem that's probably not a good idea to write.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 12, 2016, 01:30:15 AM
My laziness skills are unbeatable right now.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 12, 2016, 01:44:33 AM
My laziness skills are unbeatable right now.

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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ab/fa/6a/abfa6a2d59e171b9c85b7f9d791bd120.jpg)

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m3m, just write that poem to get it out of your system.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on November 12, 2016, 05:29:41 AM
Almost 2 weeks in and only 2 submissions? Where is everyone?

Probably a lot of emotional exhaustion around some of our regulars and also others are all still trying to guess Who's Who in Corpses. That guessing can get obsessive, changed my mid so often I'm now completely confused. Only put it in the table once though.

1750 seemed  could offer plenty of choice, but although I thought I'd try each starter fizzles out, so far.

Quote
m3m, just write that poem to get it out of your system.
And yes, m3m agree with Nora here, you probably need to do just that.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: LightRunner on November 14, 2016, 02:45:31 AM
I'm having trouble coming up with an idea that is "short story sized". Most of the concepts I come up with are too big in scope between being transported to 1750, being unable to go back to today, and deciding how to move forward. Even if you choose just one of those three segments to focus on, it seems hard to reach closure by the end.

Though...now that I've written this out...maybe there's an idea there...
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on November 14, 2016, 02:54:05 AM
Mi know where I'm going, mostly. But the Big Idea at the end hasn't come quite into focus. Sort of liking knowing the phylum and genus, but not the exact species yet.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 14, 2016, 02:57:01 AM
I managed 500 words in the first week and 0 in the second. I think my pattern will simply repeat itself once more...
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 14, 2016, 03:07:14 AM
I'm having trouble coming up with an idea that is "short story sized". Most of the concepts I come up with are too big in scope between being transported to 1750, being unable to go back to today, and deciding how to move forward. Even if you choose just one of those three segments to focus on, it seems hard to reach closure by the end.

Though...now that I've written this out...maybe there's an idea there...

Thats the thing with short stories, you can't describe everything, so it is generally recommended to start right in the middle of the action. Fill us in on what we need to know.

Your first line can be :

"There is no going back for us!" He shook sobbing Marta by the shoulders as he yelled the terrible, ugly truth, "the machine is broken, this is us, this is our now! 1750. Isn't what you wanted?"

Boom. You're already there, established stuff, installed conflict...
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: LightRunner on November 14, 2016, 04:43:49 AM
I'm having trouble coming up with an idea that is "short story sized". Most of the concepts I come up with are too big in scope between being transported to 1750, being unable to go back to today, and deciding how to move forward. Even if you choose just one of those three segments to focus on, it seems hard to reach closure by the end.

Though...now that I've written this out...maybe there's an idea there...

Thats the thing with short stories, you can't describe everything, so it is generally recommended to start right in the middle of the action. Fill us in on what we need to know.

Your first line can be :

"There is no going back for us!" He shook sobbing Marta by the shoulders as he yelled the terrible, ugly truth, "the machine is broken, this is us, this is our now! 1750. Isn't what you wanted?"

Boom. You're already there, established stuff, installed conflict...

Thanks - I'm definitely still learning a lot about the short story. I haven't spent nearly as much time reading short fiction as I have reading novels and they are very different. Action is also difficult for me - I tend to come up with  internal conflicts much more easily than situational ones and so with this prompt I could easily think of characters wanting to solve grand challenges (introduce new technologies, campaign for social rights, etc), but the plots associated with those kinds of problems are too big in scope for something this short.

Sometimes when you get an idea in your head it's hard to come up with something related, yet completely different. That's where I was getting stuck, but I'm working my way through it.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 14, 2016, 11:32:38 AM
Funnily enough, today's article repeat on the main F-F site:
http://fantasy-faction.com/2016/ten-tips-for-short-story-writing (http://fantasy-faction.com/2016/ten-tips-for-short-story-writing)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 14, 2016, 02:56:09 PM
I'm having a flat-line in the story department, 14 days in and only 50 some words to show for it. While I have an idea I can't seem to get past the first three sentences.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 14, 2016, 03:03:23 PM
I'm having a flat-line in the story department, 14 days in and only 50 some words to show for it. While I have an idea I can't seem to get past the first three sentences.

Does your idea include an ending, or is it an idea bubble that needs discovery writing? Start with the ending and work backward. See if that sparks motions.

I still have my idea, which has become pretty detailed, but I haven't actually sat down to write anything out. I think it will be safe to say i'll be taking advantage of the extra word allowance for this topic.

Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 14, 2016, 03:08:54 PM
I know how it begins and ends, but what happens in the middle is eluding me.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 14, 2016, 03:15:06 PM
I know how it begins and ends, but what happens in the middle is eluding me.

Write the ending, then the beginning. Look at where the two intersect and see what needs to be done. Might not even have to do a middle analysis once you start getting things down. Even if it goes in the wrong direction, it will help to get some words out, which you can always delete and try again.

EDIT: I've been in discovery mode recently, even though I have an idea for my own, once I start writing it will probably take a left turn through the weeds, across a pond full of gators, then back onto the road going west instead of east.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 14, 2016, 03:33:59 PM
You know what happens to western characters who go into the west instead of the east?
That's right, they die.

Welcome to the Dark Side!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 14, 2016, 05:31:10 PM
m3m, just write that poem to get it out of your system.
And yes, m3m agree with Nora here, you probably need to do just that.

/sigh

okay.  i'm writing it.  but, i am going to fully blame you guys for me inflicting the horror that is my poetry on everyone.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 14, 2016, 06:02:11 PM
m3m, just write that poem to get it out of your system.
And yes, m3m agree with Nora here, you probably need to do just that.

/sigh

okay.  i'm writing it.  but, i am going to fully blame you guys for me inflicting the horror that is my poetry on everyone.
I don't think they meant submit it as your story, just write it for yourself, so that you stop thinking about it ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 14, 2016, 06:06:27 PM
m3m, just write that poem to get it out of your system.
And yes, m3m agree with Nora here, you probably need to do just that.

/sigh

okay.  i'm writing it.  but, i am going to fully blame you guys for me inflicting the horror that is my poetry on everyone.
I don't think they meant submit it as your story, just write it for yourself, so that you stop thinking about it ;D

Or totally submit it as a story  ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 14, 2016, 07:08:23 PM
oh, no -- if i have to put up with reading my terrible poetry, y'all do too!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 14, 2016, 07:28:47 PM
oh, no -- if i have to put up with reading my terrible poetry, y'all do too!
>:(
 ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 14, 2016, 08:58:15 PM
That might be the problem, I have a beginning, but no real ending in mind for once.

oh, no -- if i have to put up with reading my terrible poetry, y'all do too!
Memo to self, don't read m3m's entry this month ;). But in all seriousness there could be worse stuff out there, so don't sell your poem short before you even write it.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on November 17, 2016, 12:15:49 AM
I'm stalled. I saw Nora's submission and was so flummoxed, flabbergasted, and kerfuffled by it that I didn't even realize it was fricking present tense. I think it may be my favorite story in more than a decade. This is ME, the card-carrying member and chief executive of the Present Tense Hater's Club ... so I'm sitting in an ocean of wrong, with 250 words that can only be described as nowhere near as good, waiting for a wind of right to sweep into my sails.

Just dug this quote out of a few threads back..

It's funny, because Nora's story actually did the exact opposite for me... As in I loved it, but instead of kerfuffling my brain into mush, it got me pumped up to write my own! And so I did!

2000 words...It may be complete horse doo-doo, but damnit I'm going to have a story this month. I truly didn't like the topic when I saw it the first time, but it's amazing what you can learn to love when you really try.

Sounds like a modern-day love song. Maybe inspiration for your poem @m3mnoch ?

"It's Amazing What (Who?) You Can Learn to Love When You Really Try" by m3mnoch <3

Awwww ::)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 17, 2016, 06:26:12 AM
Yeah, I was caught up in the moment, and used Nora's excellence as my get out jail free card. Don't get me wrong, I positively loved the story, and it would make a terrific Twilight Zone episode (or if you're old enough to remember The Outer Limits, as they were darker). But 1750 just isn't doing it for me. If I submit anything, it will probably be another suicide-by-poem event.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on November 17, 2016, 03:16:52 PM
I have literally my entire 1750 story in my head (start, middle, end). Just need to find time to write it down. Been busy being sick.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on November 17, 2016, 03:22:16 PM
I'm really struggling this month. I've got the end/beginning sorted, but everything in between is just a big mushy pile.

On the plus side, I'm learning a lot about the history of the Vatican.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 17, 2016, 03:26:35 PM
I have literally my entire 1750 story in my head (start, middle, end). Just need to find time to write it down. Been busy being sick.

That sucks! Hope you get better soon!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 18, 2016, 05:28:22 PM
I figured out the general outline of my story, but I'm not sure how I want to present it.

I did get the idea of portraying the story as an article in a newspaper, to get an idea of how a culture would paint a person misplaced in time. There's uncertainty about the idea, but I figure I'll write it out tonight or this weekend and see how I feel about it.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Crystallynnfairy on November 18, 2016, 08:20:33 PM

@NightWrite I like the idea of newspaper story!

1750 and I were not friends for most of the month so far. Then an idea bloomed and now my outline thing is 850 words.  I feel much better with possibly too much than nothing.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on November 19, 2016, 12:57:03 AM
2,031 words of first draft crap.
Will have to do some serious thinking about how to rescue this awfulness.
I do feel there's a pretty cool idea under this mound of stink.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on November 19, 2016, 02:17:20 AM
I have tried so hard this month, this morning started again on the third new idea, wrote away with enthusiasm for four hours and now reading through realise it is boring as Hell. :-[
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on November 19, 2016, 02:41:22 AM
2,031 words of first draft crap.
Will have to do some serious thinking about how to rescue this awfulness.
I do feel there's a pretty cool idea under this mound of stink.

Hahaha yeah... mounds of stink galore over here too. I've re-written this thing five times now, threw up in my mouth thrice, and tried to run my laptop down the sink garburator more times than I can count. 1750 just might kill me.

If I don't post a story this month it means I'm somewhere in Edmonton, Canada expiring in my apartment. If that becomes the case, I humbly ask that someone tracks me down and erases my 1750 story before the police find me.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 19, 2016, 03:35:50 AM
Yeah, this one was uncomfortably hard for me. I had an idea, and normally that's the hard part. I wrote my Corpses story in 3 twenty minute sessions, and spent more time eliminating mistakes than anything else. But this one was just hard. Not sure why. The flame of my idea just went out like 'pooof!'
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 19, 2016, 03:49:11 AM
Maybe alternative history fantasy is just a tough genre to work in?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on November 19, 2016, 03:53:21 AM
Maybe alternative history fantasy is just a tough genre to work in?

Who says it has to be alternative? ;)

Finally posted my story after a few days of mind-numbing edits. But I'm happy with the result! Hope a few of you enjoy :)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on November 19, 2016, 05:03:40 AM
Hope a few of you enjoy :)
I really liked it! Very nice. It's a tight space to maneuver in, but you got us there and brought it to a satisfying close quite smoothly.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on November 19, 2016, 09:45:00 PM
Hope a few of you enjoy :)
I really liked it! Very nice. It's a tight space to maneuver in, but you got us there and brought it to a satisfying close quite smoothly.

Thanks Gem! That was the difficult part - the tight space of limited word counts with such an involved topic.

I had to cut out about 50% of my middle to make it flow correctly, which was a painful process because I liked a lot of it (ie: explaining the goal and particulars of Dr. Winston's time travels). Maybe it can be elaborated on in future writings, but I liked the overall idea of the present (Thomas) inserting itself into the past and the people becoming major players in history. Like some sort of predetermined destiny or fate or whatever else have you... but time travel is a fickle thing, and can so easily be picked apart that I usually steer clear. Still, this was very fun :)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 22, 2016, 04:28:35 PM
Come on people! Only 8 days left and only 3 submissions? What's up?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 22, 2016, 04:29:12 PM
Yes, agree - I didn't think people would have so much trouble with alternate history, which I love to read!!!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on November 22, 2016, 04:42:02 PM
Come on people! Only 8 days left and only 3 submissions? What's up?

Re-wrote the first third of mine this morning.
Which doesn't help much, since that was the part already working OK.

I'll make the deadline!
(Even if the story is crap; though I will work to avoid that.  :P)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: eclipse on November 22, 2016, 04:48:36 PM
How many submissions last two novembers? To compare maybe Christmas shopping....
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 22, 2016, 04:57:04 PM
How many submissions last two novembers? To compare maybe Christmas shopping....
9 in 2014 and 13 last year.

No excuse >:(
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on November 22, 2016, 05:06:26 PM
Yes, agree - I didn't think people would have so much trouble with alternate history, which I love to read!!!
To be fair, there's a huge difference between time-travel alt-history as a theme and having a specific year to target! One has a ton of potential, the other is very restrictive.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Saraband on November 22, 2016, 05:19:05 PM
Yes, agree - I didn't think people would have so much trouble with alternate history, which I love to read!!!
To be fair, there's a huge difference between time-travel alt-history as a theme and having a specific year to target! One has a ton of potential, the other is very restrictive.

Yeah, this is pretty much why I have been uninspired for a story this month. I would have loved to write some alt-history, but 1750 just isn't an appealing time period to me. I thought of using another calendar, but that may have appeared a bit like cheating, so I'm giving this month a pass. 1750 is too constrictive a theme for me to enjoy  :-\
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on November 22, 2016, 05:29:15 PM
I'm weighed down by University work at the moment. But I have entered every month since May, and I will not fail this month.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 22, 2016, 05:47:07 PM
I haven't been working on mine much these last few days as this year Thanksgiving is at my house so my spare time has been consumed by cleaning and prep work. And during the free time I do have I've been more in the mood to read than write.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 22, 2016, 05:57:27 PM
I'll also be passing this month me thinks. Had a good idea, but not motivated to write it.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 22, 2016, 06:02:26 PM
Woe on you all! Woe!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 22, 2016, 06:07:07 PM
Yeah well, don't throw rocks at people just yet @Lanko. How many words are you into your own story?  :D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 22, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
I'm hoping to work on mine on Friday as I usually hole myself up on Black Friday.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on November 22, 2016, 06:28:32 PM
Yeah well, don't throw rocks at people just yet @Lanko. How many words are you into your own story?  :D

~800

Faster than usual, actually!

And it could be just my luck, to submit among the first five, only to have nobody else writing and become the last one again  >:(
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 22, 2016, 06:45:23 PM
 :'(
sorry

1750 could be set on a ship going from America to Europe, a native american who wanted to see the original country where all those people that are invading his territory come from. He's a wizard, so when he gets annoyed at the time it's taking and all the water, he makes a spell and the next day the ship arrives...  or it could start with him already over here.
Will someone write this for me? ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on November 22, 2016, 06:52:14 PM
:'(
sorry

1750 could be set on a ship going from America to Europe, a native american who wanted to see the original country where all those people that are invading his territory come from. He's a wizard, so when he gets annoyed at the time it's taking and all the water, he makes a spell and the next day the ship arrives...  or it could start with him already over here.
Will someone write this for me? ;D

Mm. I think the combination of factors is what's tough:
> Person from present
> Goes back to 1750 at the dawn of the industrial revolution (so all alternate calendars are out)
> And cannot return
And I will thread that needle!

But this is what makes it an especial challenge.

So for your American Indian wizard, we'd need the time travel...
> A present day American Indian wizard travels back in time and sails to Europe to stop the continued genocide of his people (so many plot holes)
> A present day person goes back in time and meets/takes up with an American Indian wizard who... etc.

It is a cool idea to noodle.......  :)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 22, 2016, 06:53:32 PM
ooops I'd forgotten about the time travel element :-[

*silly Bea, bad mod* ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on November 22, 2016, 07:16:40 PM
:'(
sorry

1750 could be set on a ship going from America to Europe, a native american who wanted to see the original country where all those people that are invading his territory come from. He's a wizard, so when he gets annoyed at the time it's taking and all the water, he makes a spell and the next day the ship arrives...  or it could start with him already over here.
Will someone write this for me? ;D
That does sound pretty awesome!  ;D


ooops I'd forgotten about the time travel element :-[
Yeah, and not just any time travel, but someone from our time. With one or two of the restrictions lifted it'd be an awesome theme for sure. Alternate history can be tons of fun.

Not saying it's a bad theme as it is, just perhaps taken a little too far for some people!  :)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on November 22, 2016, 07:23:16 PM
Let's see what the last days bring. :)

I thought you guys love a challenge. ;)

I chose 1750 because I thought the dawn of the industrial revolution would be a place full of possibilities.
Next time I know better and do alt history or time travel in the past/future without specifying more.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on November 22, 2016, 08:20:40 PM
Let's see what the last days bring. :)

I thought you guys love a challenge. ;)

I chose 1750 because I thought the dawn of the industrial revolution would be a place full of possibilities.
Next time I know better and do alt history or time travel in the past/future without specifying more.

I plan to write my 1750 story on the road (wife and I are taking a small anniversary getaway on Thanksgiving while grandma watches the kiddo) and we have a 5 hour drive to our vacation spot. I plan to write my story on my laptop during her driving shift. So, expect my submission late this weekend!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on November 22, 2016, 10:08:08 PM
I also found the topic too restricting. Which is why I did not follow it, whatever price I may pay for that.  ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: LightRunner on November 23, 2016, 04:00:32 AM
Got mine in!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain of the Guard on November 23, 2016, 02:58:23 PM
I also found the topic too restricting. Which is why I did not follow it, whatever price I may pay for that.  ;D
I found it restricting, but I soldiered on to force myself to write outside my comfort zone =)
We'll see how well it'll be received, nearly done!!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Captain of the Guard on November 24, 2016, 12:20:51 PM
Aaannd done ! sweet ! ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 24, 2016, 03:23:36 PM
I've decided I'm going with the news article angle, but there's an issue. While I like it, the process is slow going and everything I write feels like it wouldn't belong in a newspaper of the time period :o.

Oh well ;).
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on November 26, 2016, 07:46:21 PM
I'm in!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on November 27, 2016, 04:14:07 PM
Got my entry in. I mean, I'm not sure it's any good, but it's there. So, um, woo. I guess.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 27, 2016, 04:23:34 PM
Woo ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 29, 2016, 12:02:02 AM
i'm about halfway done with this poem thing.  i should be able to finish.  i've set the hook and i'm reeling it in now.  also, i say "poem thing" because that's really the best way to describe this . . . uh . . . thing.

because, you know, it's me.  which means i make up my own rules as i go.

*shrug*

yeah -- it's what i do.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on November 29, 2016, 01:17:05 AM
The suspense is immense, m3m. Can't wait to read that thing.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 29, 2016, 02:01:59 AM
The suspense is immense, m3m. Can't wait to read that thing.

heh.  as long as you guys aren't too sad when you read it and think to yourself, "wow, this is stupid."
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on November 29, 2016, 04:53:39 AM
I...I forgot about this. And now I have essays.  :'(
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 29, 2016, 02:25:34 PM
Might not be submitting this month. I've been too stubborn with letting the news article idea go despite not being able to squeeze out more than 250 words in the past how many days. Woke up this morning and told myself I needed to decided do I either not submit or rush a new piece in two days.

Gonna try and rush a new piece, here's hoping I can do it and not hate it.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 29, 2016, 03:02:46 PM
good luck, man!!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on November 30, 2016, 03:12:56 AM
Just abandoned my fourth attempt and spent days on this last one.  Despite being just restricted to one year I had a good idea to get around that, happy with start and ending done, but the middle  just wouldn't come alive to tie together properly. :'(

Respect to everyone who has entries in.   8)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 30, 2016, 04:04:23 PM
I won't get much time to edit it, but the first draft is done and I don't hate it. It's just giving me one of those "I can't believe I just wrote that" moments ;).
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on November 30, 2016, 04:52:49 PM
FYI, people can still have the whole of tomorrow to write and post...
I'm feeling the season (and we only have 9) ;)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on November 30, 2016, 07:52:00 PM
I won't get much time to edit it, but the first draft is done and I don't hate it. It's just giving me one of those "I can't believe I just wrote that" moments ;).

*phew*

i'm in this same boat.  first draft is done and i don't hate it.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on November 30, 2016, 09:43:37 PM
I'm in, though I might tweak a little bit here or there before the deadline. Not the best I've ever done, but considering the struggle I've had with this prompt I'm happy with it.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 01, 2016, 12:08:55 AM
Meanwhile, I've PM'd our beloved mods for an extension.  :-[
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on December 01, 2016, 12:13:48 AM
Meanwhile, I've PM'd our beloved mods for an extension.  :-[

Hope you get it!!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 12:30:37 AM
With so few subs, I doubt you'd be denied.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on December 01, 2016, 08:05:13 AM
@Jmack Your submission had me at "boy genius"  ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 02:49:01 PM
Where is our DECEMBER topic?  :D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 01, 2016, 03:21:00 PM
alrighty then.  i managed to fight through the topic , the election, AND the format to submit my first (and hopefully only) poem.

*shivers*

demons exorcised.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 01, 2016, 03:29:09 PM
Where is our DECEMBER topic?  :D
I'm sorry to say that my son decided to skip his nap and now I probably have to wait until he sleeps again (~4 hours from now, maybe earlier because of the missed nap).

But it's worth the wait! :D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 03:42:02 PM
@xiagan you're taking a terrible liking to being an awful tease!!!  ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 01, 2016, 03:51:40 PM
Are there any stories being finished at the moment?
Can I lock the thread?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 01, 2016, 04:38:32 PM
Where is our DECEMBER topic?  :D
I'm sorry to say that my son decided to skip his nap and now I probably have to wait until he sleeps again (~4 hours from now, maybe earlier because of the missed nap).

But it's worth the wait! :D

I totally want to write my first poem for the contest. Topic! Topic! ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 01, 2016, 04:41:30 PM
I totally want to write my first poem for the contest. Topic! Topic! ;D
When you see it, you'll soon give up on that and write a beautiful story ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 01, 2016, 04:42:10 PM
Where is our DECEMBER topic?  :D
I'm sorry to say that my son decided to skip his nap and now I probably have to wait until he sleeps again (~4 hours from now, maybe earlier because of the missed nap).

But it's worth the wait! :D

I totally want to write my first poem for the contest. Topic! Topic! ;D

(http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/vader.jpg)

i just went through that pain.  i don't think i could do it again.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 01, 2016, 04:46:54 PM
Speaking of poems, @The Gem Cutter , you do know a poem has to be 100 words minimum to qualify under the rules, right?  ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 04:47:36 PM
Where is our DECEMBER topic?  :D
I'm sorry to say that my son decided to skip his nap and now I probably have to wait until he sleeps again (~4 hours from now, maybe earlier because of the missed nap).

But it's worth the wait! :D

I totally want to write my first poem for the contest. Topic! Topic! ;D


NO. NONo. NOPE. NOPETY NOPE. NO. NO. NO. NO.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 01, 2016, 04:49:03 PM
Only poems allowed!!!!!
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 01, 2016, 04:50:05 PM
Are there any stories being finished at the moment?
Can I lock the thread?

Do you really have to ask?   ::)  ;D

I need to cough some words, might need an extra one...

And I even started on the first week, but I guess some things are just too traditional  ::)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 05:00:14 PM
How about a month with only Haikus, HUH?

Is that FUNNY to you too?

Dismembered friends
Are funnier than expected
In pieces and bits

Killed them all myself
Dead friends tell no poems
Peace be in pieces
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on December 01, 2016, 05:02:25 PM
How about a month with only Haikus, HUH?

Is that FUNNY to you too?

Dismembered friends
Are funnier than expected
In pieces and bits

Killed them all myself
Dead friends tell no poems
Peace be in pieces

No need to have a month for this. You've already won.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 01, 2016, 05:03:30 PM
Have you swallowed your lips yet?
Down among the waving grasses
Tadpole kisses

Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 01, 2016, 05:04:53 PM
Only poems allowed!!!!!
Over my dead body! :o
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 05:05:34 PM
Have you swallowed your lips yet?
Down among the waving grasses
Tadpole kisses

Not wanting to lecture on poetry, but haiku are 5/7/5 syllables.  :P
Tadpole choke yourself.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 01, 2016, 05:12:46 PM
Have you swallowed your lips yet?
Down among the waving grasses
Tadpole kisses

Not wanting to lecture on poetry, but haiku are 5/7/5 syllables.  :P
Tadpole choke yourself.

5/7/5 in Japanese.
English should be more of an approximation IMHO.
But it fails that, too.  8)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 01, 2016, 05:15:43 PM
Are there any stories being finished at the moment?
Can I lock the thread?

Do you really have to ask?   ::)  ;D
;D ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 01, 2016, 05:18:04 PM
poems are a crime
because that asinine time
i now write in rhyme
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 05:20:58 PM
Honto desu yo ne
ishoni nihongo wo
hanashimasho
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 01, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
Honto desu yo ne
ishoni nihongo wo
hanashimasho

Um...?
(http://i.imgur.com/OlVz0Mm.jpg)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 05:37:00 PM
Wow, that's some cruelly inaccurate translation on google's part.

Ikimasho is "let's go", hanashimasho is "let's talk/speak"

Honto is truth, my first sentence could be said as "it's true isnt it"
Issho ni is "together", nihongo is japanese, the language.
Wo is actually written as Ho but said and often written in romaji as Wo.
The last two sentences together mean "let's all speak japanese together" since japanese usually has the verb at the end of the sentence.

Anyway, I've studied japanese years ago, I'm rusty.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 06:25:25 PM
Where is our DECEMBER topic?  :D
I'm sorry to say that my son decided to skip his nap and now I probably have to wait until he sleeps again (~4 hours from now, maybe earlier because of the missed nap).

But it's worth the wait! :D

This post is 3 hours old people, hold your breath.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 01, 2016, 07:58:26 PM
[holds breath
keels over from lack of oxygen]

I'm having a very unproductive day at work, and it's all the Forum's fault.  >:(
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on December 01, 2016, 09:23:41 PM
Only poems allowed!!!!!

have a separate contest  ::)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 02, 2016, 11:46:01 AM
Are there any stories being finished at the moment?
Can I lock the thread?

Do you really have to ask?   ::)  ;D
@Lanko ... You must post today... half of Dec 2nd already gone ;)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 02, 2016, 03:22:54 PM
Are there any stories being finished at the moment?
Can I lock the thread?

Do you really have to ask?   ::)  ;D
@Lanko ... You must post today... half of Dec 2nd already gone ;)

I will try... and half of Dec 2nd just began here  ::)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 02, 2016, 11:38:06 PM
Bea? No voting thread yet?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 03, 2016, 03:41:27 AM
I did it!

I'm so damn hungry, and only finished it because tomorrow is Saturday.

Holy...

Sorry for delaying the voting topic, but at least I believe you all will have some laughs to compensate.

Now I just hope I won't regret in the future to have posted that  ::)
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: J.R. Darewood on December 03, 2016, 04:08:21 AM
Omg sherLanko.  That photo.  I can't stop laughing.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on December 03, 2016, 04:42:49 AM
Keep dropping back to look again and laugh it's brilliant
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Crystallynnfairy on December 05, 2016, 08:02:54 PM
@Lanko That picture is great! ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: J.R. Darewood on December 12, 2016, 07:22:50 AM
Am I allowed to gush about @Lanko 's masterpiece yet or are you doing that whole "don't affect the voting with compliments" thing?
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: eclipse on December 12, 2016, 08:32:31 AM
I wish you writers weren't so modest I've read a few anthologies and I much prefer the short stories here in the contest.

I tell you what slightly influence me when someone says something in the submission thread along the lines of " here it is I'm not happy with the story but here it is anyway" if the author feels that way I think to myself why should I vote for that story,it feels like there want me to vote for a different story in the contest.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 12, 2016, 02:51:59 PM
I wish you writers weren't so modest I've read a few anthologies and I much prefer the short stories here in the contest.

I tell you what slightly influence me when someone says something in the submission thread along the lines of " here it is I'm not happy with the story but here it is anyway" if the author feels that way I think to myself why should I vote for that story,it feels like there want me to vote for a different story in the contest.

i dunno.

as a writer, i'd much rather have votes for the stories i felt good about.  positively reinforce the good, negatively reinforce the bad.  if random stuff gets more votes, it's harder to tack in the direction of improvement.
Title: Re: [NOV 2016] - 1750 - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 12, 2016, 04:40:59 PM
I wish you writers weren't so modest I've read a few anthologies and I much prefer the short stories here in the contest.

I tell you what slightly influence me when someone says something in the submission thread along the lines of " here it is I'm not happy with the story but here it is anyway" if the author feels that way I think to myself why should I vote for that story,it feels like there want me to vote for a different story in the contest.

You would understand if you wrote and submitted stories  :P