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Title: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 04, 2017, 12:30:01 PM
It's time to vote on the November Writing Contest: Water!

We got 10 entries this month, almost all in the last day ;D - thanks to all who participated!

Please read through all of the entries in the submission thread and place your votes for your two favourite entries in this thread. You won't be able to see the vote breakdown until the vote closes, so spread the word for others to come and vote! We do ask that if you entered, to vote for someone else.

The key for the numbers of votes is this: 1-5 entries: 1 vote, 5-10 entries: 2 votes, 11-15 entries: 3 votes, 16-19: 4 votes, 20-25: 5 votes, 26+: 6 votes

Remember that the winning entry will be posted on the main Fantasy-Faction site in a few months.

Good luck to all our entrants and thank you for taking the time to read the stories and vote! :)
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Nora on December 04, 2017, 02:23:02 PM
Truly living my life like a grown up this week. I'm getting stuff out of the way early, including casting my votes!
Done and dusted.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 04, 2017, 02:47:02 PM
Wow *claps*
I'll read and vote during my Christmas holidays ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: NightWrite on December 04, 2017, 09:35:04 PM
I should do like Nora and do my voting this week. The closer we get to Christmas, the more I feel like I won't have as much time as I'd like to read everything. One of these days I might be able to convince my family we need to tone the holidays down....
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Norman Gray on December 05, 2017, 10:25:07 PM
I've read most of the entries. Already I have a feeling that I know which ones I'll be voting for. A couple of the entries were a bit difficult to get into; I found myself skimming a bit. I'll be sure to give those ones another try before I cast my votes.

I guess we don't typically give feedback/do critiques of each others stories in these contests?
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Nora on December 05, 2017, 10:55:14 PM
yes, we used to. If you click on an older topic, chance is you'll find some with a "critique" thread. It's a habit that had to be revived a couple of times. No one was commenting recently, so it fell out of practice. Some people were upset by reviews as well so we started doing opinions only for people who openly asked for them and that was often too few people.
Feel free to restart the process though!
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on December 08, 2017, 09:44:37 AM
Voted while I had time to read and to make sure I don't forget as the long school holidays begin here today, going through to beginning of February. There may be a bit of baking required. 

Water is a theme that offers a wonderfully wide interpretation and that shows in the entries, I enjoyed them all, thank you writers. ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 26, 2017, 10:16:16 PM
Eek I just realised it's the 26th and I haven't started reading :o :o
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Nora on December 28, 2017, 06:08:56 PM
Come on everyone. Who's voted, who hasn't? 3 days to 2018 and the deadline!
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 28, 2017, 06:09:57 PM
There are 14 votes - I'm still reading, 4 stories to go... (ok, 3, I'll read another one now hehe)
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on December 28, 2017, 06:10:47 PM
I voted. Great entries this month!
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: NightWrite on December 28, 2017, 06:13:01 PM
I still have a few stories to go. Hopefully I'll be able to cut out a chunk of time to finish reading them in the next few days.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 28, 2017, 07:03:09 PM
7 voters so far and no story with more than 3 votes. Interesting!
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: NightWrite on December 30, 2017, 12:32:05 AM
Took me some time to decide, but I've voted now.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 30, 2017, 05:08:43 PM
Voted!
I could have used a 3rd vote, but as it is, the 2 stories I chose really touched me :)
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Nora on December 30, 2017, 10:15:57 PM
7 voters so far and no story with more than 3 votes. Interesting!

That would mean not everyone who wrote voted yet. What does it look like now, for our last contest of the year?

I'm baffled but re-reading my story I now realise that since I had to cut out great swaths of text including a visit to a women's "Abada", a private, female only public house with baths and whatnots, there are literally no obvious mentions of my character's gender, but the hint of hair being breaded, and the name Ilkaria at the very end.
Damn. I wonder how many read thinking it was a guy. 
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on December 30, 2017, 10:23:19 PM
Hope everyone who has entered tells us when they have voted. TBH this is going to affect my future choices when decisions are close.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on December 30, 2017, 10:26:24 PM
Sorry accidental double post

Nora maybe we should discuss the gender thing more and elsewhere after voting closes. Interesting as to why it mattered.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 30, 2017, 10:28:18 PM
18 votes now, so I assume 9 voters.
Votes all spread out, 2 stories tied at the top (which isn't far away from the rest: 1 to 3 points!)
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Nora on December 30, 2017, 10:29:59 PM
Hope everyone who has entered tells us when they have voted. TBH this is going to affect my future choices when decisions are close.

Oh really?
I mean, we should have a rollcall at the end for stragglers. Voting feels kind of compulsory for writers. Forgetting is fine, but name calls would help with that. I think I forgot once? I can't really remember.

Lady_Ty, id be glad to hear your thoughts. I don't know that it really mattered, it's just that she was so deeply a woman Explorator in my head, it was so part of her character, that I didn't even notice that it wasn't obvious anymore.
If I had had 4000 words I'd have tried to wedge some romance in there, since it seems to work wonders around here, hehe!

But Bea, you voted and you didn't write. So that's potentially 8 voters if Lady Ty hasn't voted yet, and if no two people didn't cast just one vote.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on December 30, 2017, 10:34:26 PM
I haven't voted yet, but will do so later tonight when I've finished the last few stories.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on December 30, 2017, 10:37:18 PM
I voted ages ago but have been known to change my mind. Just to messyou all up.
Re my comment, truly think if you expect people to read, consider and vote for your story it  is only professional courtesy to the other writers to reciprocate. Yes, often accidental one off forgetting perfectly understandable, and I did once but only reader now, so would like to see all entrants acknowledge they voted.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Eclipse on December 30, 2017, 10:50:38 PM
I’ve not voted for a while because  I’ve noticed for a while now not all the writers vote and it has put me off.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 30, 2017, 10:56:18 PM
Strangely enough, since I get annoyed at so many little things, that actually doesn't bother me.
Yes, I think it's kinda rude, but it doesn't affect my voting.

By the way, if you've read all stories this year you can add 180,000 words to your count :o
(12 months x 1,500 words x average of 10 stories per month)
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Nora on December 30, 2017, 11:20:37 PM
I’ve not voted for a while because  I’ve noticed for a while now not all the writers vote and it has put me off.

Maybe we should include it in the rules? To me it feels like a writer who doesn't vote does nothing more than unfair competition. If they win by a vote only, ideally they should be forced to cast their vote before reveal, as potentially their vote would make a sizeable difference. It's unfair. It means less demarcation in more competition. Also it's lazy.
Which is why it'd be great to have a check in system, allowing us to pm or @ the writers who haven't voted.
It's not like it's an issue! But it feels odd that it's not an ingrained rule in the game.
Plus if it puts off readers-only, it's an even bigger motivation.

Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on December 30, 2017, 11:51:19 PM
And voted. Usually I only vote for one story, but I couldn't split my top two this time so went for them both.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 31, 2017, 10:18:59 AM
Ten voters so far.

The thing is that you can't enforce voting because a) you can't see who voted and b) if a writer is forced to vote and if they don't have time/interest to read the stories they may just vote based on the title, sympathies or totally random and I'm not sure that's better than not voting at all.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Nora on December 31, 2017, 10:39:07 AM
But what if voting was expected from the start? If you don't want to read stories, then don't enter? We only have 2 or 3, maybe 4 max people who read and vote only. If writers don't do the effort, then the contest collapses anyway.
I don't know, it seems that voting is just good manners and most writers do it. Wouldn't hurt to put the expectation of voting in the expected rules, I think. You may not be able to enforce them, but at least it sets the tone and expectation.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 31, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Wouldn't hurt to put the expectation of voting in the expected rules, I think. You may not be able to enforce them, but at least it sets the tone and expectation.
That we can certainly do. :)
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Carter on December 31, 2017, 09:15:54 PM
Now voted. 

A nice broad theme with some very interesting approaches - made it very difficult to pick out a couple of favourites.

In terms of the debate on voting, I always try to find time to do so, and certainly when I am in more of a reading / writing mode (as I am at the moment after a significant hiatus) even if I don't write a story for the month.  For me, contests like this are a great place to experiment with style, voice and hopefully improve my writing, so I always appreciate even a single vote.  As a result, I always feel that by voting, I may be able to show someone else that what they've done has reached out to at least one reader.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 01, 2018, 10:25:01 AM
2 hours left to vote!!
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Eclipse on January 01, 2018, 12:33:47 PM
Congrats Nora!

Looks like you've got into the winning habit
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Nora on January 01, 2018, 01:01:58 PM
Whoa! Thank you all so much!
Eclipse, I'm hardly a contestant to the two God Emperors, this is my fourth win in 3 years, but I love how each win is often on trying something different (a love story, a journal..). It's the very spirit of the contest for me, as Carter said, the perfect place to go and try new things.

Speaking of which, I voted for @Carter, whose story sort of surprised me with unexpected typos and nagging things that I felt could have been smoothed out by re-reads, yet was so lovely in concept, so intense in emotions, I was totally caught. I loved as well that the MC, this river spirit, goes to do the good thing but then lashes out, and ends the story on a bitter, almost cruel note. It felt like the obvious thing to do for it though, so it had a bit of a "glimpse into an alien mindset" quality to that ending which I really liked.
it's an odd contest, when third place only has two votes.

Also voted for @D_Bates, I just like your stories man! This one... there was a thing towards the end, when it became really lovecraftian that didn't please me all that much, because I felt like you had your own, honestly terrifying thing going, but it still worked very well overall. The part when they all go nuts or missing was quite chilly, even for such a short story. Tight!

Honourable mentions to Jmack's great Monsoon Dragon, and Nightwrite, whose concept was really cool, like a good water-bender idea, but felt too much like a chapter in a story. I think 500 more words to peak in drama and cut a sharper end would have made it perfect.
Norman Gray's story was also very good. Well written, but ultimately storms aren't just water, and there are floods and seas mentioned, for sure, but the story lacked independence as an autonomous short as well. Overall quality was strong though.

It was just tough to have only two votes with still so many good stories. I hope we have more entries for Jan, with everyone making good writing resolutions and upholding them for at least a month :p
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: JMack on January 01, 2018, 01:13:39 PM
Congrats, Nora! And well-deserved. I think my sense of your story as an homage to Marie Brennan influenced my vote here. But it was very well-written, with great imaginative backdrop.

I voted for @D_Bates and @The Gem Cutter. Two very different stories, one with lots of interesting quirks and alleyways (to mix my metaphors) and the other the working out of a single, clear concept.

I agree with Nora about stories that feel like they are the prologue to a book, or a chapter in it. Except in rare occasions that keeps me from voting for even very imaginative and well-crafted entries.

And now... it’s 2018! January will be my 40th entry in the contest, assuming I complete one. Can;t wait to see this month’s topic. So, huge thank you as always to @xiagan, without whom I’d have never become a writer. (Future generations will have only you to blame. ;))
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 01, 2018, 02:21:19 PM
Yay @Nora :D
I didn't vote for you, but it was almost, hehe

I voted for @Jmack (lovely!) and @The Gem Cutter (it seems lately I've been leaning towards Gem's stories, they just appeal to me :) )

But wow, one winner, then just 2 points behind we got 3 stories, then another two with just 1 less point - it means everyone managed to take something out of all the stories :D

I agree with Nora about stories that feel like they are the prologue to a book, or a chapter in it. Except in rare occasions that keeps me from voting for even very imaginative and well-crafted entries.
Same here. I need "stand-aloneness"

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And now... it’s 2018! January will be my 40th entry in the contest, assuming I complete one. Can;t wait to see this month’s topic. So, huge thank you as always to @xiagan, without whom I’d have never become a writer. (Future generations will have only you to blame. ;))
;D
We got the theme, xia just needs to organise it
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Carter on January 01, 2018, 03:42:16 PM
Congratulations Nora.  A good story and I felt the style of it was well executed - hence it got one of my votes along with Alex's story. 

Thanks for the vote as well.  I did rush it a bit towards the end of the month so I was not able to get it anywhere near as polished as I wanted it so I'm glad some of what I wanted came across.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 01, 2018, 03:52:26 PM
Carter, yours was another strong contender for my vote, it also got a 4 and the comment "nice and lovely" ;D
It just didn't exactly feel like a complete story.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: xiagan on January 01, 2018, 04:46:56 PM
Congrats, Nora! There still isn't a God Empress... ;)

I'm on the next contest now but we have friends over so... yeah. (Tryin' the Lanko life, posting contests late  8))
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 01, 2018, 06:18:25 PM
Congratulations Nora!  Another fine month with a varied assortment of entries. The diversity of ideas always surprises me - although the December contest has more than the average amount of commonality in some ways.
Thank you for your votes Miss Scarlet and Jmack (and the other person!)!  I voted for Jmack and Jonathan.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 01, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
Woo hoo! Congrats @Nora!

I sent you a PM just to make sure you don't have a Twitter or something (I don't think you do but can't remember). I'll be posting your win once I hear back.
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: NightWrite on January 01, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
Congratulations Nora!
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on January 01, 2018, 10:15:02 PM
Congrats Nora, like Jmack I had a feeling Lady Trent had crept into your sub conscious and you got my vote for the unique treatment of the theme and the way the letters led us step by step to the changes and almost inevitable ending. I was left wanting a sequel about life among the Dalai, but know the final mystery needs to remain as it is. I had assumed your Explorator was male, so was surprisedwhen  you seemed to show concern that it was unclear she was female. My own reaction was how good it had been to read a story where it could be either gender and had no bearing on the outcome whichever.  I already sensedw a love story by the ending but if you had actually developed that more than the subtle hint, you may have lost my vote.  :P

Carter got my other vote for being Water in a heart rending way and I felt myself within that river all the way, flowing along the course and also loving little details like tickling leaves and bothersome small fish.
 
It was a terribly hard choice this month and I truly needed more votes for @Alex Hormann ‘s chanting raindrop army, Jmack’s love story and @D_Bates frightening reflection on the genuine horror of the deep. Thanks again to all for fascinating reading. ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: J.R. Darewood on January 02, 2018, 05:56:09 AM

Great job Nora!!!
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on January 02, 2018, 02:05:01 PM
Thanks for the vote @Carter , and I'm glad @Lady Ty enjoyed it too. I was running low on time and ideas, so I just turned my geography GCSE into a fantasy story.  ;D
Title: Re: [NOV 2017] Water - Voting Thread
Post by: D_Bates on January 04, 2018, 06:59:37 AM
Congratulations @Nora! Well deserved and a worthy capping off to 2017, and thank you for the kind comments :-).