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[May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« on: May 01, 2018, 10:52:56 PM »
Technology and Magic, Science Fiction and Fantasy



In the merry month of May we want you to write a story in a world where traditional fantasy with magic and science fictional technology coexist. Or meet. Or clash. Or fight. That's up to you. It was really hard to find a fitting picture which may be a sign that this is a neglected genre.
There are only two books I can think of at the moment. One is a German fantasy saga which was never translated to English (Fantasy World invaded by Aliens - it's way better than it sounds. And with dragons.) and the other, if it counts at all, is Ready Player One where we learn that they have in the OASIS magic worlds, technology worlds and worlds where both is allowed.

We're really curious what you'll manage to come up with!


Rules:

1. This must be prose or poetry.
2. The story must contain a traditional fantasy world with magic and Sci-Fi technology.
3. Prose must be 500-1500 words long.
4. Poetry must be 100-750 words long.
5. One story per person or writing team (not per account).
6. You will be disqualified if you exceed the limits, full stop. That's why they're called limits.
7. Your entry can't be published somewhere else before.
8. This is a writing contest, not a "I have written something like this ten years ago" contest. So if you happen to have a story that fits one of the themes, I'd like it to have a mayor overhaul/edit. Work for it. ;)
9. Please add your story's word count and, if you have, your twitter handle.
10. Please put your story in [ spoiler ] tags to make the thread easier to handle. :) You can find them above the smileys under the B.
Bonus rule: We consider voting in a contest you're taking part in a given. Others take time and effort to read the stories - you should do the same. A small community like ours lives from reciprocity and this contest needs stories as much as votes. 

If you want so submit your story anonymously you can do so by sending it in a personal message to @xiagan.

Entry will close May 31st/June 1st, 2018 and voting will begin somewhere around the same time too.

All members are eligible to join. If you are not a member you can join here. Sign up is free and all are welcome! :)

The winner will have their piece displayed on the main Fantasy Faction website sometime in the next months.
Submitting a story counts as published. The author retains all rights to their work.

Please post your entry here.

Note: This thread is only for questions or discussing this month's writing contest. Good luck!
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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2018, 02:54:56 AM »
That German fantasy saga actually sounded really interesting. . . Until you mentioned that it had dragons. Still not sure why that's such a selling point for so many readers. . .

Anyway, I've dabbled in this sort of 'crossing of genres' before, so I think it would be fun and interesting to revisit!

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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2018, 05:09:49 AM »
I'm willing to at least take a stab at this, but isn't the entire genre of steampunk pretty much what you describe?
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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2018, 08:52:39 AM »
I'm willing to at least take a stab at this, but isn't the entire genre of steampunk pretty much what you describe?
No, I definitely don't want steampunk. That's a tech world with added magic.

Here I want something more medieval/traditional fantasy with advanced tech alongside it, colliding with it or whatever.
Think Lord of the Rings meets Star Wars but not hollywoodesque but good and well thought out.

That German fantasy saga actually sounded really interesting. . . Until you mentioned that it had dragons. Still not sure why that's such a selling point for so many readers. . .
They're definitely not your typical dragons. And the magic system is something Sanderson can look to and take notes. ;)
It's the "Höhlenwelt Saga" by Harald Evers, first book is "Die Bruderschaft von Yoor".
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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2018, 12:10:35 PM »
This is a serious challenge for a 1500 word short. Strangely, I have an idea with a funny twist at the end, but we'll see.

Think Lord of the Rings meets Star Wars but not hollywoodesque but good and well thought out.

I am curious for an elaboration of this comment! Surely you're not suggesting that hollywood movies are all sparkle and no substance! What blasphemy is this?
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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2018, 02:16:01 PM »
OK, got it. thx
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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2018, 05:42:31 PM »
Hmmm... do you mean something like Artemis Fowl?
It's kinda low magic but this is what, immediately, came into my mind when I saw this month's prompt.
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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2018, 07:17:47 PM »
I'm gonna go more Howl's Moving Castle with this one(the Miyazaki version), with tech heavy airships and magic a commonality of the world.
Great topic and glad it's not steampunk
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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2018, 07:28:49 PM »
I'm gonna go more Howl's Moving Castle with this one(the Miyazaki version), with tech heavy airships and magic a commonality of the world.
Great topic and glad it's not steampunk

Usually, I am not one to nitpick, but Howl's Moving Castle is kind of a steampunk.
Still, I like it a lot along with all Miyazaki creations.
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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2018, 08:31:24 PM »
I'm gonna go more Howl's Moving Castle with this one(the Miyazaki version), with tech heavy airships and magic a commonality of the world.
Great topic and glad it's not steampunk

Usually, I am not one to nitpick, but Howl's Moving Castle is kind of a steampunk.
Still, I like it a lot along with all Miyazaki creations.

I heartily disagree. Yes there are some vehicles that use steam (like the tram) but the other main steam producing machine is a normal train. The flying bike things are not steam powered and neither are the warship. The aesthetic isn't one of cogs and the fashion is not Victorian but just dress and shirt-pants/uniform fantasy.
Howl's castle is entirely powered by magic. The mechanisms are one of tubs and bits and bobs and fancy contraptions around a magical fuel. Look at the door in the castle: the colour coding is there to help you see which location you're set on, but the magic is inured in the handle itself.
To me the film has nothing of steampunk at all. But it's close enough to be a contentious POV of course.
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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2018, 09:02:50 PM »
I'm gonna go more Howl's Moving Castle with this one(the Miyazaki version), with tech heavy airships and magic a commonality of the world.
Great topic and glad it's not steampunk

Usually, I am not one to nitpick, but Howl's Moving Castle is kind of a steampunk.
Still, I like it a lot along with all Miyazaki creations.

I heartily disagree. Yes there are some vehicles that use steam (like the tram) but the other main steam producing machine is a normal train. The flying bike things are not steam powered and neither are the warship. The aesthetic isn't one of cogs and the fashion is not Victorian but just dress and shirt-pants/uniform fantasy.
Howl's castle is entirely powered by magic. The mechanisms are one of tubs and bits and bobs and fancy contraptions around a magical fuel. Look at the door in the castle: the colour coding is there to help you see which location you're set on, but the magic is inured in the handle itself.
To me the film has nothing of steampunk at all. But it's close enough to be a contentious POV of course.

Don't get me wrong, I mostly agree with the differences you mentioned but I, also, believe it's a matter if semantics.
It's the steampunk  version of Japanese anime/manga culture hence the differences.

I am not raising this issue to debate whether you should go that way for the short story but because I am a fan if yhe Japanese culture of anime/manga and I consider Howl's Movibg Castle a steampunk, although, quite original, especially, for it's time.

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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2018, 09:28:11 PM »
Hmmm... do you mean something like Artemis Fowl?
It's kinda low magic but this is what, immediately, came into my mind when I saw this month's prompt.
Artemis Fowl isn't bad but it's still recent/urban fantasy and not "traditional fantasy".

It's ages that I read Howl's moving castle and I haven't seen the movie so I can't comment.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2018, 10:15:26 PM »

Artemis Fowl isn't bad but it's still recent/urban fantasy and not "traditional fantasy".

It's ages that I read Howl's moving castle and I haven't seen the movie so I can't comment.

You are right, my bad.
I should have specified that I meant only the subterranean culture of the Elves and the other creatures that mix magic with advanced technology and not the whole book along with the modern day human civilization which makes the book urban fantasy.



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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2018, 12:50:40 AM »
Like Final Fantasy 6, 7 and 10?

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Re: [May 2018] - Magic and Technology - Discussion Thread
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2018, 11:00:43 AM »
I love it when an idea blooms on its own, and I just need to water it some. Then chop it off at the stem, squoosh it between the pages of an enormous book for, oh say, 29mdays, and then hurriedly breathe some life back into it just before the deadline.

Idea? Check
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