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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #165 on: January 31, 2017, 09:20:07 AM »
Doesn't that depend on the story?

I've just done three rewrite of the same story. The first draft was a ton of sentences that made no story by themselves, the second was all those ideas making sense in a plot but still not making a good story, the third was a boring, clunky and A to B type story. The third was lighter but all reworked to be interesting and light (in my own opinion of course).

Rewrites might suck but if what you have had great potential but is unpublishable as is, then isn't it the best of all option? It's pretty efficient because you know exactly what you want to say and where you want to get, just not how.
I often start rewrites in different tenses. I think of it as a way of changing clothes before going out, trying what'll make the story stand out the most  :D
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #166 on: January 31, 2017, 03:51:55 PM »
Rewrites might suck but if what you have had great potential but is unpublishable as is, then isn't it the best of all option? It's pretty efficient because you know exactly what you want to say and where you want to get, just not how.
I often start rewrites in different tenses. I think of it as a way of changing clothes before going out, trying what'll make the story stand out the most  :D

Couldn't agree more.  I normally try to avoid rewriting something, but sometimes it's unavoidable (or even preferred).  There have been a few times where I've written something that I'm initially happy with, but then later find that it's clunky or overly wordy.  Many times it's better/easier to just rewrite than the constant slashing and burning trying to fix it.
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #167 on: January 31, 2017, 04:07:50 PM »
Rewrites might suck but if what you have had great potential but is unpublishable as is, then isn't it the best of all option? It's pretty efficient because you know exactly what you want to say and where you want to get, just not how.
I often start rewrites in different tenses. I think of it as a way of changing clothes before going out, trying what'll make the story stand out the most  :D

Couldn't agree more.  I normally try to avoid rewriting something, but sometimes it's unavoidable (or even preferred).  There have been a few times where I've written something that I'm initially happy with, but then later find that it's clunky or overly wordy.  Many times it's better/easier to just rewrite than the constant slashing and burning trying to fix it.

For a seat-of-pantser like me, re-writing is a given for anything I'm looking to publish. Not complete novel re-writes, but chapter re-writes are very common. I find this is especially a problem when I'm doing third-person and following several different characters. Messing up their voice is so common for me.


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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #168 on: January 31, 2017, 04:13:43 PM »
I definitely agree that rewriting can get you to a much better story, but often if I am rewriting, the write becomes fundamentally different from the original draft. The one that I posted had the same setting and some of the same characters as the original, but their personality traits had shifted and the conflict was different.

So, in a lot of ways, I would consider the re-write a completely different story. Does that make sense? That's why it feels inefficient to me. Writing the second draft went quickly because I knew where I was going, but it's frustrating that I had to write a different story to get to the posted one.

I suppose that's how we grow as writers though...   :P

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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #169 on: January 31, 2017, 05:07:08 PM »
I definitely agree that rewriting can get you to a much better story, but often if I am rewriting, the write becomes fundamentally different from the original draft. The one that I posted had the same setting and some of the same characters as the original, but their personality traits had shifted and the conflict was different.

So, in a lot of ways, I would consider the re-write a completely different story. Does that make sense? That's why it feels inefficient to me. Writing the second draft went quickly because I knew where I was going, but it's frustrating that I had to write a different story to get to the posted one.

I suppose that's how we grow as writers though...   :P

That does happen, especially in shorter stories.  One write, you have a modern day, 1500 word thriller, the next you've got a 1500 word yesteryear dystopian alternate history.

That is why I try to keep my complete rewrites to a minimum, but sometimes you just have to take the plunge.
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #170 on: January 31, 2017, 05:13:39 PM »
If the story is completely different in a way you are happier with, it's evolution. If you're not happy with it and wanted to keep the original characters and motivations... then what are you a slave of, that you had no choice?

If you're unhappy with the way your rewrite went, just do another rewrite. *evil laughter*
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #171 on: January 31, 2017, 08:29:50 PM »
Doing the last 500 words. The issue is transitioning the plot points in a believable and smooth transition. In other words...this is screwing me over. Rewrite, they said. Cut some things out, they agreed with. Looks better. Still not complete. 8)
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #172 on: January 31, 2017, 09:01:02 PM »
I still haven't seen @Lanko's story, despite some comments about not leaving stuff for the last day ;)
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #173 on: January 31, 2017, 10:48:44 PM »
Phew. Got mine done just in time.

Funnily enough, I actually think this has been the most difficult month for me to come up with a story since I started doing this contest. Not because I couldn't think of any ideas, mind. On the contrary, my problem was I had too many ideas and none of them immediately felt strong enough, especially since I'm not the sort to go for a story idea unless I think it really stands out. Plus, as fun as doing zany comedies is, I've been trying to stretch out of my comfort zone for the last few weeks, so I couldn't just go to that fallback.

That said, I'm really happy with how this entry turned out. It was an idea I only came up with a day ago, yet it all flowed together so naturally. It's still light and amusing like I enjoy, but feels more structured and works in a more low-key way than usual. And hell, the first draft even came out at around 1500 words for once, so I didn't have to shear it all down like is so often the case.
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #174 on: February 01, 2017, 03:05:44 AM »
I DID IT! IT IS OFFICIALLY IN!!!!!!!
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #175 on: February 01, 2017, 01:14:07 PM »
My story is in.

I thought about submitting it anonymously, but the bicycle would have probably given me away.  ::)

It was pretty fun to write, listening to some film noir jazz, but the editing sucked. Went from 1850+ words to 1497, and I'm afraid that it shows.

Also tried to write it with American spelling this time because I felt it somehow fit the mood better. Emphasis on tried.
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #176 on: February 01, 2017, 02:02:55 PM »
@Lanko come on man, where is your story? You can't be two days late every month! Maybe missing a deadline or publishing unsatisfying material will boost your writing next time around!
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #177 on: February 01, 2017, 02:40:13 PM »
@Lanko come on man, where is your story? You can't be two days late every month! Maybe missing a deadline or publishing unsatisfying material will boost your writing next time around!
This, this!
I'm going to lock the thread later today >:(

Edit: wow, you submitted 30 seconds after I posted this ;D

Anyone else? I'm locking the thread, contact me if needed to add a last minute one ;)
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #178 on: February 01, 2017, 02:42:46 PM »
@Lanko come on man, where is your story? You can't be two days late every month! Maybe missing a deadline or publishing unsatisfying material will boost your writing next time around!

I did start it pretty early and actually finished it almost ten days ago! But it was pretty hard to get back to it due to various reasons. Well, it's in just in case, though I still need to cut or if I can't you can disqualify it. I'll see what I can do.

EDIT: Bea, you posted it just as I posted  ::)
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Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
« Reply #179 on: February 01, 2017, 02:49:09 PM »
I'm just happy I wasn't the last one in. Thanks for taking that spot from me, you two. 8)
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