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Title: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 31, 2016, 11:31:35 AM
Urban Fantasy

(http://orig15.deviantart.net/b095/f/2008/272/5/2/harry_dresden_by_thegryph.jpg)
Harry Dresden by The Gryph (http://thegryph.deviantart.com/)

We didn't have a genre as our monthly theme for quite a while, so this time we want you to write us a nice, little Urban Fantasy story.
This means that your story should take mainly place in a city. Any city, any time? No. To make it a bit more specific, we'd like you to stay on our world (with added supernatural elements of course) and in contemporary times (+/- 50 years). Having an Urban Fantasy story take place in ancient Rome or in Minas Tirith has its own appeal but would be a totally different theme in our opinion.

Voluntary restriction and/or inspirational spark: Since it's January and the new year has just begun, the story should be about changes, the MC restarting or changing their lives.


Rules:

1. This must be prose or poetry.
2. The genre must be Contemporary Urban Fantasy.
3. Prose must be 500-1500 words long.
4. Poetry must be 100-750 words long.
5. One story per person or writing team (not per account).
6. You will be disqualified if you exceed the limits, full stop. That's why they're called limits.
7. Your entry can't be published somewhere else before.
8. This is a writing contest, not a "I have written something like this ten years ago" contest. So if you happen to have a story that fits one of the themes, I'd like it to have a mayor overhaul/edit. Work for it. ;)
9. Please add your story's word count and, if you have, your twitter handle.
10. Please put your story in [ spoiler ] tags to make the thread easier to handle. :) You can find them above the smileys next to the 'youtube' symbol.

If you want so submit your story anonymous you can do so by sending it in a personal message to @xiagan.

Entry will close Jan 31th/Feb 1st, 2017 and voting will begin somewhere around the same time too.

All members are eligible to join. If you are not a member you can join here (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/register/). Sign up is free and all are welcome! :)

The winner will have their piece displayed on the main Fantasy Faction website sometime in the next months.
Submitting a story counts as published. The author retains all rights to their work.

Please post your entry here (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/(jan-2017)-urban-fantasy/(jan-2017)-urban-fantasy-submission-thread/).

Note: This thread is only for questions or discussing this month's writing contest. Good luck!

Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 31, 2016, 11:38:45 AM
Would anyone believe me that during a quick nap yesterday I actually dreamed the next contest was gonna be Urban Fantasy?  :o :o :o
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 31, 2016, 12:34:52 PM
Would anyone believe me that during a quick nap yesterday I actually dreamed the next contest was gonna be Urban Fantasy?  :o :o :o

Do a piece on a medium!

I think i know what I'll do, if I manage to make a good end to the beginning I'm thinking of.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmack on December 31, 2016, 02:11:28 PM
Such a good theme.
This will be fun.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 31, 2016, 03:09:47 PM
Would anyone believe me that during a quick nap yesterday I actually dreamed the next contest was gonna be Urban Fantasy?  :o :o :o
Yeah, say that, instead of admitting you're hacking into xia and my messages ::) ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on December 31, 2016, 07:04:00 PM
I'm not gonna lie. I saw this after taking a nap to sleep off the last of my cold and thought I slept through new year's eve.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 31, 2016, 09:08:13 PM
Would anyone believe me that during a quick nap yesterday I actually dreamed the next contest was gonna be Urban Fantasy?  :o :o :o

Do a piece on a medium!

I think i know what I'll do, if I manage to make a good end to the beginning I'm thinking of.

Right? Why I didn't dream about the New Year's Lottery? It's accumulated in R$ 200 mi. Now that would've been useful  ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor_Chill on December 31, 2016, 09:21:15 PM
God I hate UF.

*rolls up sleeves*

Let's do this.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 31, 2016, 09:52:27 PM
Hm, someone actually changed my title hah.

I wonder who did it now that the Forum Shop is gone  ::)

They could've added it to appear before Writing Contest Regular though, it took me a while to notice it hah.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Eclipse on December 31, 2016, 10:18:54 PM
God I hate UF.

*rolls up sleeves*

Let's do this.

Do it in the style of low town @Doctor_Chill
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmack on January 01, 2017, 04:39:28 PM
2,015 words and counting between last night and today in a story that doesn't want to fit in a 1,500 limit. I figure it's maybe 25% done. Of course, I have no idea where it's going, so who knows?

I guess I'll need a different idea for Urban Fantasy month.  8)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 01, 2017, 06:29:41 PM
2,015 words and counting between last night and today in a story that doesn't want to fit in a 1,500 limit. I figure it's maybe 25% done. Of course, I have no idea where it's going, so who knows?

I guess I'll need a different idea for Urban Fantasy month.  8)

I have 926, pure dialogue, and no idea how it ends and what the goal of each people is. Messy messy!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on January 03, 2017, 01:16:58 AM
I've never read any Urban Fantasy, let alone written any. Still going to give it a go though.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 03, 2017, 01:26:29 AM
I've never read any Urban Fantasy, let alone written any. Still going to give it a go though.

Mc is badass, regardless of other talents. Town is either big urban, or american midwest crossroad with cacti and tumbleweed. Weres run free, vamps are mean but will still have safe sex with you, mediums are a thing, they're often geeky, and sometimes keep company to witches.
Everyone owns bars, and everyone does their misdeeds at night. Lots of recreational sex, and lots of sheriff county officers. Lots of "ma'am".

Or maybe I don't read enough European UF.

Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 03, 2017, 02:15:56 AM
Whoa.

Was looking around for pictures to illustrate my point above, when I fell into the image of @Jmack upcoming UF story (RIGHT???) and at the same time Aktu came to my mind, the words "Rev! REV! turn around!!" came shrieking forth.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/01/55/16/015516330370c9293535855ea10f0f6d.jpg)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: SugoiMe on January 03, 2017, 02:28:13 AM
I have an idea...maybe.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on January 03, 2017, 05:34:17 AM
I've never read any Urban Fantasy, let alone written any. Still going to give it a go though.

Mc is badass, regardless of other talents. Town is either big urban, or american midwest crossroad with cacti and tumbleweed. Weres run free, vamps are mean but will still have safe sex with you, mediums are a thing, they're often geeky, and sometimes keep company to witches.
Everyone owns bars, and everyone does their misdeeds at night. Lots of recreational sex, and lots of sheriff county officers. Lots of "ma'am".

Or maybe I don't read enough European UF.
UF doesn't need vampires, werewolves, sex or interspecies romance.
A lot of Paranormal Romance has a UF setting but it's not the other way round. ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 03, 2017, 05:49:42 AM
UF doesn't need vampires, werewolves, sex or interspecies romance.
A lot of Paranormal Romance has a UF setting but it's not the other way round. ;)

I don't know if that freed me options or limited me... I think I've read three UF stories last year. And two were actually supernatural Horror.

Anyway, the things Nora mentioned were exactly what first came to mind as well, hah.

Just in case I don't have any "serious" ideas, now I'm keeping an empty file with some silly comical title, currently My Dog Is A Werewolf. Oh, it needs interspecies romance. *Switches MC for teen girl protagonist*. Hm, or maybe invert the expected tropes and make it a teen boy and a female dog...

The things we think  ::)

(edited by SB to delete the double quote)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 03, 2017, 06:40:04 AM
I hardly ever read UF, but last year *someone* made me read the first book of Peter Grant stories (Ben Aaronovitch) and I quite enjoyed it, continue to read the series.
Think of it as a detective/crime story set in London with magic :D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 03, 2017, 09:29:01 AM
Does Harry Potter qualify as UF? It's really not my thing, at least, I don't think it is.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 03, 2017, 09:36:20 AM
Does Harry Potter qualify as UF? It's really not my thing, at least, I don't think it is.

Pretty sure it does. There are various scenes in real London. Harry with his uncle, aunt and cousin. With Ron's family. They buy their wands and brooms in London. Even some battles where some important people die. Hogwarts is a parallel location inside our world. And even to access it you go to a London station. There's also some laws and "police" to prevent/cover magic usage in the "muggle world".

Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 03, 2017, 09:52:06 AM
I liked the Dresden Files (read 2?) but they didn't move me. I think at the time I was engrossed with Abercrombie's books, to which, a candle, they hold not.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmack on January 03, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
Whoa.

Was looking around for pictures to illustrate my point above, when I fell into the image of @Jmack upcoming UF story (RIGHT???) and at the same time Aktu came to my mind, the words "Rev! REV! turn around!!" came shrieking forth.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/01/55/16/015516330370c9293535855ea10f0f6d.jpg)

Wow. I love this picture.
And the idea of Atku making a non-humorous appearance really appeals.
You're the best, @Nora!
(I mean, the best along with ScarletBea, and M3mnoch, and Gem Cutter, and.... 8)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 03, 2017, 01:56:09 PM
I just got a start on the Dresden books, so this is very timely  ;D I'm also working on an Urban Fantasy freelance novel, so I'm already in the zone!

I tend to agree with TGC about Jim Butcher's Dresden books - they're not moving me. But I hear they really improve around Book 4 or 5, so maybe I'll slug it out and enjoy a light read. Also agreed that they don't hold a candle to Abercrombie. But really...who does ;) (He's my favourite author by a mile).

I was chucking around a UF Horror idea last Spring and got a 10k word start on a novel about an excommunicated, alcoholic exorcist that struggles with his sexuality. Threw in demons and angels, trapped spirits and the like, and I've been waiting for a reason to get back into it. It was coming along quite nicely, but got thrown in the trunk for reasons I can't explain or remember. I think it's time I write a short story about Malachai (maybe an origin story?) and get the juices flowing again ^^ So excited!!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 03, 2017, 02:50:54 PM
I tend to agree with TGC about Jim Butcher's Dresden books - they're not moving me. But I hear they really improve around Book 4 or 5, so maybe I'll slug it out and enjoy a light read.

this is precisely why i bounced on dresden.  i'm certainly not a big enough fan of the genre to put in that kind of effort.  hell, i barely read second books in good authors' series.  there's just too much other stuff out there for me to commit that much time to one world.

heh.  but, yeah.  i've even had friends tell me to just skip the first three books.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 03, 2017, 08:10:44 PM
I'm finishing up my story. Starring a cop and an artist.
I went from writing 900 words of pure dialogue between a mummy and the person working on understanding its restoration to life, to 1,000 words of a completely different nature, without more than a couple of lines of dialogue all told.
I think I'll be happy with this idea once I'm done with it. No one dies or anything in it, it's not too dark, just broody. Go figure.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 03, 2017, 11:31:01 PM
To those who couldn't get into Dresden I'd suggest trying Ben Aaronovitch's Peter Grant series. They're UF with a bit of a twist.
Got an idea for this, but only a small one and don't know if I'll be able to come up with a decent conclusion for it. Faeries are a big part of UF today. Tad Williams classifies The War of the Flowers as UF and his Bobby Dollar series. Larry Correia's Monster Hunter books are UF. Emma Newman also refers to her Split Worlds as UF. Simon Green's Secret Histories books, which are a spoof on James Bond are UF.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 03, 2017, 11:49:50 PM
Anne Rice and Charlaine Harris write great UF, imo. Midnight, Texas is about to get a tv show. Gotta filter, but they do great. Anne Rice half founded the genre.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 04, 2017, 12:08:56 AM
My favorite urban fantasy is probably Terry Brooks' Word and Void Series. While it has ties to his Shannara books, it is set *before* the nuclear cataclysm that remakes the world before the Shannara books begin.

The first book, Running with the Demon, is still one of my favorite books I've ever read by Brooks, and the following books are great as well. But if you're look for "urban fantasy" I heartily recommend it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 04, 2017, 12:14:42 AM
Anne Rice half founded the genre.
I thought that might be the case, but I am always conflicted with vampires and where they fall, but I suppose there's an area where fantasy and horror overlap.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 04, 2017, 12:16:20 AM
My favorite urban fantasy is probably Terry Brooks' Word and Void Series. While it has ties to his Shannara books, it is set *before* the nuclear cataclysm that remakes the world before the Shannara books begin.

Hey about that... Is the book better than the series? Because in like, episode 2, the half elf dude wakes up groggy from a dodgy night, and a complete stranger (to him) shows up and goes all 'come now, we're late on our quest, whoever skipped to tell you you are a chosen son of magician/kings/whatev lied to you. Hurry, questing time.'
and he's all 'huuuh?'
and goes questing, me thinks?
I immediately stopped watching. It pulled every single tropey cliche trigger I have.

Also, the demon was taken RIGHT OUT of Isengard. Seriously.

Anne Rice half founded the genre.
I thought that might be the case, but I am always conflicted with vampires and where they fall, but I suppose there's an area where fantasy and horror overlap.

She did not limit herself to vampires. She wrote The Mummy, which I loved, and several books on witches. And ghosts! Oh god and she wrote Servant of the bones, which pleased yet confused me so much...
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady_Ty on January 04, 2017, 12:42:40 AM
The Mayfair Witches with the Taltos are an unusual series, have just finally been able to get it on audible so it may make a comeback. ** But just noticed this theme is meant to be in contemporary and Anne Rice is not.

Urban fantasy is so much wider than the steampunk style or paranormal romance. The well written and carefully planned such as Peter Grant series offers much more. Dresden and Iron Druid are great on action and comedy and a whole new look at fantasy characters from myth and legend.  Iron Druid in particular had very good Celtic and Nordic myth information. Although I am a devoted fan of both these,  they have just about reached the end of their novelty and both authors have decided there will be a limit, but both were entertaining.

Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on January 04, 2017, 12:47:53 AM
My favorite urban fantasy is probably Terry Brooks' Word and Void Series. While it has ties to his Shannara books, it is set *before* the nuclear cataclysm that remakes the world before the Shannara books begin.

The first book, Running with the Demon, is still one of my favorite books I've ever read by Brooks, and the following books are great as well. But if you're look for "urban fantasy" I heartily recommend it.

Y'know, I read those a while back, but never associated them with Urban Fantasy.

Meanwhile, my idea is pretty much sorted, but won't be written until after University deadlines. Has a very Torchwood feel to it, I think.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 04, 2017, 04:27:47 AM
My favorite urban fantasy is probably Terry Brooks' Word and Void Series. While it has ties to his Shannara books, it is set *before* the nuclear cataclysm that remakes the world before the Shannara books begin.

Hey about that... Is the book better than the series? Because in like, episode 2, the half elf dude wakes up groggy from a dodgy night, and a complete stranger (to him) shows up and goes all 'come now, we're late on our quest, whoever skipped to tell you you are a chosen son of magician/kings/whatev lied to you. Hurry, questing time.'
and he's all 'huuuh?'
and goes questing, me thinks?
I immediately stopped watching. It pulled every single tropey cliche trigger I have.

Also, the demon was taken RIGHT OUT of Isengard. Seriously.

OH MY GOD.

The TV series (The Shannara Chronicles) was, in my personal opinion, terrible. Granted, that's just my opinion. But yes, they changed practically everything I liked about the characters and the plot of the book from which they pulled the (corpse) of the original story.

It was just bad. Also, their version of the Reaper made me think of the Dovakhin from Skyrim, which meant I constantly expected him to yell FUS RO DAH!

However, the BOOK on which they based the first season of the TV show (The Elfstones of Shannara) remains one of my favorite fantasy books. Elfstones isn't what I'd call urban fantasy, since the world is fantasy in all respects other than its "nuked 1000 years ago" origin, but it is dark fantasy, and of the first three books, Elfstones remains my favorite.

The characters in the book make sense, the demons are frightening and awesome instead of tropish as they are in the show, and the ending ... well, that might be the only part the TV series came close to getting right (but Terry Brooks still did a far better job in the original book).

So yeah. Not a fan of the TV series. And it's not a sore point at all. :P
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 04, 2017, 04:57:57 AM
My favorite urban fantasy is probably Terry Brooks' Word and Void Series. While it has ties to his Shannara books, it is set *before* the nuclear cataclysm that remakes the world before the Shannara books begin.

Hey about that... Is the book better than the series? Because in like, episode 2, the half elf dude wakes up groggy from a dodgy night, and a complete stranger (to him) shows up and goes all 'come now, we're late on our quest, whoever skipped to tell you you are a chosen son of magician/kings/whatev lied to you. Hurry, questing time.'
and he's all 'huuuh?'
and goes questing, me thinks?
I immediately stopped watching. It pulled every single tropey cliche trigger I have.

Also, the demon was taken RIGHT OUT of Isengard. Seriously.

OH MY GOD.

The TV series (The Shannara Chronicles) was, in my personal opinion, terrible. Granted, that's just my opinion. But yes, they changed practically everything I liked about the characters and the plot of the book from which they pulled the (corpse) of the original story.

It was just bad. Also, their version of the Reaper made me think of the Dovakhin from Skyrim, which meant I constantly expected him to yell FUS RO DAH!

However, the BOOK on which they based the first season of the TV show (The Elfstones of Shannara) remains one of my favorite fantasy books. Elfstones isn't what I'd call urban fantasy, since the world is fantasy in all respects other than its "nuked 1000 years ago" origin, but it is dark fantasy, and of the first three books, Elfstones remains my favorite.

The characters in the book make sense, the demons are frightening and awesome instead of tropish as they are in the show, and the ending ... well, that might be the only part the TV series came close to getting right (but Terry Brooks still did a far better job in the original book).

So yeah. Not a fan of the TV series. And it's not a sore point at all. :P
Elfstones and the the Shannara books, with the exceptions of the other ones mentioned here are all epic fantasy. The show was dire, I thought it was actually worse than Legend of the Seeker, because that was at least unintentionally funny a lot of the time. They also wasted the talents of Manu Bennett.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 04, 2017, 06:27:08 AM
They also wasted the talents of Manu Bennett.
I never really saw him in anything except the Gladiator show with Lucy Lawless, so I didn't realize he was such a good actor. But yeah, I found it ironic that the best actor (imho) on the show was the beefcake guy, at first. Then I felt bad for him and the rest. Just a heap of glistening clichés, I thought.

I don't think anything about the Shannara series is Grim-dark or Dark Fantasy, I think it's straight Epic. My two cents.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 04, 2017, 10:11:50 AM
Has a very Torchwood feel to it, I think.
:D
You got me with that!!!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 04, 2017, 03:26:59 PM
oooh!  oooh!  i have an idea!

wry, gruesome, and i totally want to take this nugget and turn it into a book.  or, at least, a longer short story.

*shakes fist at word limits*

. . . but, i can totes clip a bit to fit our format here.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 04, 2017, 09:06:22 PM
So I wanted to throw an idea out!

I'm currently managing the F-F Writing Contest Twitter account. At the moment, my updates are limited to putting our theme up each month (pinned tweet) and posting every 10-15 days to remind people who follow the account that they can still submit their own story, or vote.

In addition, I've followed a bunch of authors and publishers so I can retweet book deals and such that might be interesting to folks, as well as the occasional post I find amusing.

However, I thought it would be cool to actually start posting a Tweet each time a new story goes up. Basically, pick a short excerpt (a line, really) and post a Tweet with that, as well as a link to the thread. So essentially, everyone who participated would get a quick shout out on the Twitter feed when they posted.

So my question for our authors is - how do you feel about this? I know some folks, for example, will post a story early with the intent to edit it later, so you might not want people being notified about it "early". Other people might not want their work posted at all (unless it won, of course). So, what are your thoughts?

Alternately, we might let people specify when they post if they want to be linked? We already have people including their Twitter handles when they post (if they have Twitter) so maybe we could let people "opt-in" and say it's cool for the F-F Contest twitter account to broadcast that their story is up?

Basically, I want to provide more updates/content for the Twitter than just - "come read!" or "come vote!" a few times a month.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 04, 2017, 09:18:00 PM
that sounds awesome!

seems like a ton of work (comparatively), but it could be really, really cool.

dooo eeeet!!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmack on January 04, 2017, 09:30:04 PM
I'm all for it. I second the notion that someone flags if they want it teeeted.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 04, 2017, 10:49:32 PM
They also wasted the talents of Manu Bennett.
I never really saw him in anything except the Gladiator show with Lucy Lawless, so I didn't realize he was such a good actor. But yeah, I found it ironic that the best actor (imho) on the show was the beefcake guy, at first. Then I felt bad for him and the rest. Just a heap of glistening clichés, I thought.

I don't think anything about the Shannara series is Grim-dark or Dark Fantasy, I think it's straight Epic. My two cents.
He's done a fair bit of stuff. I remember him as Crixus from Spartacus of course, but I know him better as the Australian Secret Service agent Slade Wilson in Arrow. On that, I wonder if a super hero story classifies as urban fantasy, it seems to be it's own little subgenre at present.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 05, 2017, 12:44:13 AM
Cool, so, here's what we'll do.

For this month, we'll try this idea. When you submit your story (assuming you're reading this thread :p), go ahead and include the word "READY" in the post, alongside your Twitter handle, word count, and whatever else, if you're okay with me using it to draw in Twitter readers. Basically, the READY tells me you may still make changes, but you're still okay with people reading it.

That gives me the all clear to post a line from your story on the Twitter feed for the contest (thus giving me content that's not repetitive!) and helps provide a trickle of contest related content that's not "Read now!" or "Vote now!", which I try to avoid spamming.

So as an example, let's say we'd done this last month. I'll pick Lordoftheword's story. If he posted READY when he first posted it on Nov 19, I could tweet something like this.

Quote
"The iPhone never should have made it into the teleportation chamber, and the boy damn well knew it!" @dustinbilyk

http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/1750-234/(nov-2016)-1750-submission-thread/

Now people might have a reason to check out the contest as opposed to a generic "read our stories!"

If this goes well and @xiagan likes it, maybe we can add the instructions (post READY if you're okay with us tweeting your story) to future contests.

EDIT: If there's a line you particularly like, you could even DM me and let me know.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady_Ty on January 05, 2017, 12:49:30 AM

I'm currently managing the F-F Writing Contest Twitter account. At the moment, my updates are limited to putting our theme up each month (pinned tweet) and posting every 10-15 days to remind people who follow the account that they can still submit their own story, or vote.

In addition, I've followed a bunch of authors and publishers so I can retweet book deals and such that might be interesting to folks, as well as the occasional post I find amusing.


Thanks teb, noticed how interesting the twitter thread is now, have put a notification tick on so I don't miss as Twitter moves fast and sometimes forget to actually look at any particular thread.  Appreciate all the news etc.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 05, 2017, 12:51:27 AM
[Thanks teb, noticed how interesting the twitter thread is now, have put a notification tick on so I don't miss as Twitter moves fast and sometimes forget to actually look at any particular thread.  Appreciate all the news etc.

Thank you! I'm trying to find a balance between making sure there's something of interest every few days or so, but also not spamming people. So we'll see how that goes!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on January 05, 2017, 07:16:37 AM
Awesome idea, Eric! Really like it! :D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 05, 2017, 01:52:15 PM
@tebakutis - Awesome idea, Eric. I totally support this.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 08, 2017, 05:57:04 PM
man, my story is turning out fun.  tho, i want MORE WORDS.  this is exactly the kind of thing that could be blown out into a much longer story or book.

you guys would be proud of me.  i'm even writing it in first person!  lookit me stretch!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 08, 2017, 06:56:43 PM
man, my story is turning out fun.  tho, i want MORE WORDS.  this is exactly the kind of thing that could be blown out into a much longer story or book.

you guys would be proud of me.  i'm even writing it in first person!  lookit me stretch!

Very funny! I started in present tense, first person, quickly moved to past tense, now rewrote the whole thing in third person, past tense, going all sad and traditional. We're crossing paths! Please, try to apply present tense m3m.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmack on January 08, 2017, 06:57:39 PM
I'm struggling to get my story out of present-1st person myself!
What is this disease?  :o
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 08, 2017, 07:08:34 PM
I'm struggling to get my story out of present-1st person myself!
What is this disease?  :o

It ain't no disease! It's just my relentless wotk to make you all appreciate present tense finally coming to fruition.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 08, 2017, 07:17:53 PM
Wow, I was also thinking of giving a shot for 1st person present tense this month. Apparently it's popular in UF. And I'm also reading City of Stairs which uses it.

But maybe I will stick with 3rd in the end.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 08, 2017, 08:40:53 PM
Not so sure about the present tense, but 1st person is what a lot of UF does seem to be written in. Something about the subgenre just lends itself to first person story telling.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 08, 2017, 09:27:24 PM
Wow, I was also thinking of giving a shot for 1st person present tense this month. Apparently it's popular in UF. And I'm also reading City of Stairs which uses it.

Oh wow, looking forward to your opinion on that.

Not so sure about the present tense, but 1st person is what a lot of UF does seem to be written in. Something about the subgenre just lends itself to first person story telling.

Yeah, that's true, but it often is what fails with me. I find the 'voice' of the characters, from american authors at least, to have a tedious "samey" tone, and often bore me. The Devil You know by Carey, had me snort and DNF on first page.  :-\
I think first person suits me depending on the character's voice. Is it stronger than my will to just tell the story? Sometimes I feel a strong narrative voice, and I write 3rd person. I don't question that choice much. In this case I changed because I needed to tell a lot and could do more by 3rd person than through one man's eyes.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on January 08, 2017, 09:52:03 PM
University deadlines done and dusted, so I've made a start on this month's contest. I have a good feeling about this.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 11, 2017, 12:39:30 PM
Everything is pretty dead quiet here this month. Not much chatter here, and still no contribution by the 11th!

I'm trying to wrap up my story but I keep re-writing it down, try to make it more fluid. I've rarely had this many 'version' of a work conflicting. Every other day I think of more and more natural ways to make this thing flow.

I'm following a cop again this time. He's got an enjoyable point of view. I'm getting a liking to writing law enforcement people.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 11, 2017, 02:22:07 PM
i'm putting the finishing touches on my first draft this morning.  then, letting it sit for a bit.  making sure i like it.

it'd be weird if i finished first.

oooh!  i've never been first!

*starts arting even harder*
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 11, 2017, 02:23:59 PM
I'm often pretty quick about submitting, but this month I'm taking a knee.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 11, 2017, 02:31:13 PM
As expected, I didn't even start it yet  ::)

But I think I have a good idea and threw in some notes.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 11, 2017, 02:36:15 PM
As expected, I didn't even start it yet  ::)

But I think I have a good idea and threw in some notes.

How about setting some goals for you first month and not delaying closure by two days? How about trying to submit before the last minute, hmm?  ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on January 11, 2017, 02:58:50 PM
I'm surprised by how much I'm enjoying writing this. Almost enough to make me *read* some Urban Fantasy.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 11, 2017, 03:11:22 PM
As expected, I didn't even start it yet  ::)

But I think I have a good idea and threw in some notes.

How about setting some goals for you first month and not delaying closure by two days? How about trying to submit before the last minute, hmm?  ::)
Somehow I think that only me being really strict and locking the thread at midnight on the 31st will make him learn... I'm too nice for my own good ;) ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 11, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
As expected, I didn't even start it yet  ::)

But I think I have a good idea and threw in some notes.

How about setting some goals for you first month and not delaying closure by two days? How about trying to submit before the last minute, hmm?  ::)
Somehow I think that only me being really strict and locking the thread at midnight on the 31st will make him learn... I'm too nice for my own good ;) ;D

Fine, fine, I will surprise you all by posting it before the deadline! In fact, I will not even be the last this month, how about it!

And if I fail, it won't get posted after! So I will also spare everyone the extra wait for the voting thread and also prevent Bea from having to sound bossy!

Ah, New Year promises  ::)   
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 11, 2017, 04:13:16 PM
I'm surprised by how much I'm enjoying writing this. Almost enough to make me *read* some Urban Fantasy.

right?!?

i just finished my story.  cleaned it up.  now, letting it sit.

but, yeah -- reading it again not only makes me want to read wider in urban fantasy, but it makes me want to write this character as my next book.  man, that would be fun.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 11, 2017, 04:23:58 PM
I'm surprised by how much I'm enjoying writing this. Almost enough to make me *read* some Urban Fantasy.

right?!?

i just finished my story.  cleaned it up.  now, letting it sit.

but, yeah -- reading it again not only makes me want to read wider in urban fantasy, but it makes me want to write this character as my next book.  man, that would be fun.

Oooooo I'm excited to read your story now!

After missing the Dragons month, I vow to have a story submitted before the 31st. If I fail, @Nora may have my first-born and I'll bequeath my entire first novel's earnings to January's winner. Unfortunately, that person will be far from rich and the money is already spent...but still!

I've raised the stakes...damn  :o
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on January 11, 2017, 07:37:28 PM
I've stalled with mine so far. The most concrete thing I've come up with is the setting is a train. I've toyed with some ideas, characters, and other settings. None of the ideas or characters, however, have panned out and the setting keeps going back to trains.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 11, 2017, 08:23:11 PM
I've stalled with mine so far. The most concrete thing I've come up with is the setting is a train. I've toyed with some ideas, characters, and other settings. None of the ideas or characters, however, have panned out and the setting keeps going back to trains.

oooh.  a train!  that sounds fun.

i went with demons, rock salt, and a car chase.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 11, 2017, 08:42:36 PM
I've stalled with mine so far. The most concrete thing I've come up with is the setting is a train. I've toyed with some ideas, characters, and other settings. None of the ideas or characters, however, have panned out and the setting keeps going back to trains.

oooh.  a train!  that sounds fun.

i went with demons, rock salt, and a car chase.
So your standard episode of Supernatural, then?
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 11, 2017, 08:44:19 PM
I've stalled with mine so far. The most concrete thing I've come up with is the setting is a train. I've toyed with some ideas, characters, and other settings. None of the ideas or characters, however, have panned out and the setting keeps going back to trains.

oooh.  a train!  that sounds fun.

i went with demons, rock salt, and a car chase.
So your standard episode of Supernatural, then?

exactly!!

but, since this is me, there's a twist!

lemme finish up this photoshop work for the image, and i'll post it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on January 11, 2017, 09:59:12 PM
I've stalled with mine so far. The most concrete thing I've come up with is the setting is a train. I've toyed with some ideas, characters, and other settings. None of the ideas or characters, however, have panned out and the setting keeps going back to trains.

oooh.  a train!  that sounds fun.

i went with demons, rock salt, and a car chase.

After some reflection I've realized my problem is coming from the train. Part of me is afraid I'll end up with some Murder on the Oriental Express parody with fantasy highlights. The other part is saying "shut up and go with it, you might get something you like."

Now that I've properly identified the two halves the "shut up and go" half is beginning to win.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 11, 2017, 10:34:13 PM
I've stalled with mine so far. The most concrete thing I've come up with is the setting is a train. I've toyed with some ideas, characters, and other settings. None of the ideas or characters, however, have panned out and the setting keeps going back to trains.

oooh.  a train!  that sounds fun.

i went with demons, rock salt, and a car chase.

After some reflection I've realized my problem is coming from the train. Part of me is afraid I'll end up with some Murder on the Oriental Express parody with fantasy highlights. The other part is saying "shut up and go with it, you might get something you like."

Now that I've properly identified the two halves the "shut up and go" half is beginning to win.

i support that decision.  all the best gunfights always happen on trains.

go with it!

RIDE THAT TRAIN!

Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 11, 2017, 11:44:11 PM
Well, I'm going on with a demoted-sup-homicide-detective now magical-vandalism-inspector on the trail of an infamous street artist, never caught before, who uses spells and alchemical paints to make magical animated or 3D art and other cool effects.
Cop vs vandal, no car chase but some car stake outs, some donut eating...
So really a crime on the orient express sounds sweet-as to me! Go @NightWrite no one wants to read the story you think you should write. We want to read the story you would enjoy writing.

Then, WHY would I get your firstborn child, @Lordoftheword ?? I don't want it! I know how painful children are, for your wallet, your social life, your peace of mind, your general wellness... Any children left on my doorstep will be sold to the circus.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmack on January 12, 2017, 01:11:13 AM
Well, since we're sharing...

I'm going with an inexperienced witch living in her billionaire father's condo in the 3rd highest skyscraper in Manhattan, hiding out at 800 feet high from the urban spirits that feed on magical energy.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 12, 2017, 01:32:44 AM
Then, WHY would I get your firstborn child, @Lordoftheword ?? I don't want it! I know how painful children are, for your wallet, your social life, your peace of mind, your general wellness... Any children left on my doorstep will be sold to the circus.

Off to the circus with it then!

Ooo...I think you just gave me an idea for a story  ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 12, 2017, 03:45:48 PM
btw, for the curious, my story image this month is a mashup of these two photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rogersview/6782672381/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kipsoep/8733341084/

since i couldn't find a decent copyright-permissible photo with demons or a nighttime car chase or rock salt shotguns.

so, the custom end result:
(http://www.topherchapman.com/support/images/short-story-demonx.png)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 12, 2017, 03:55:01 PM
btw, for the curious, my story image this month is a mashup of these two photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rogersview/6782672381/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kipsoep/8733341084/

since i couldn't find a decent copyright-permissible photo with demons or a nighttime car chase or rock salt shotguns.

so, the custom end result:
(http://www.topherchapman.com/support/images/short-story-demonx.png)

I doubt you'd struggle to find that if you looked at Pinterest. I'll show you what I can find tonight.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 12, 2017, 04:06:08 PM
btw, for the curious, my story image this month is a mashup of these two photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rogersview/6782672381/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kipsoep/8733341084/

since i couldn't find a decent copyright-permissible photo with demons or a nighttime car chase or rock salt shotguns.

so, the custom end result:
(http://www.topherchapman.com/support/images/short-story-demonx.png)

I doubt you'd struggle to find that if you looked at Pinterest. I'll show you what I can find tonight.

oh, i could find all kinds of interesting images that would fit.  all over the place.  i mean, just googling "supernatural hunter's kit" turns up some awesome, awesome stuff.

the disqualifying requirement for most of them, however, was having a creative commons permissible copyright license.  that way, i can actually post it to my website (http://www.topherchapman.com/stories/demon-x/) with full confidence nobody will chase me down and sue me.


edit:

whoa -- how awesome is this image?!?

(http://img15.deviantart.net/f1ec/i/2012/115/b/9/winchesters___survival_kit_by_petite_madame-d4xkr3r.jpg)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 12, 2017, 09:26:21 PM
Coming in halfway through the month...hmmm. Options, options, options.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 14, 2017, 02:22:17 PM
Okay!!

I'm IN! surprisingly second by the middle of the month? What's up fellows? Where is faster than light @TOMunro this month?

Well, this is absolutely not the story I set out to write. Like, not at all. Even after I settled for the cop-vandal theme, I wanted the two of them to have a drawn out relationship, a sort of flirting/courtship through the paintings they left for each others, culminating with the cop finally seeing her, as she lets herself be seen, in his powers, and him making the choice to let her go. But there was no space for that, and Hund's story was just so cool. I had to cut it down heaps too, he was way more invested in some ghoul attack remorse. Damn this whole month I truly enjoyed writing, and gosh I struggled for days to write the end (from the end of the cop dialogue really)!
Now it's out having taken a massive walk through the bush and out of the road I had mapped for it, but I enjoy it nonetheless. I think it's better like this.

Of course I spent the morning rewriting it entirely in the present tense.
You have fewer words in present and simple past, it's brilliant.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 14, 2017, 03:02:48 PM
yay!  my story isn't so lonely anymore!

still.  the two of them could certainly use some more friends.  stories always like company.


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Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 15, 2017, 07:21:04 PM
yay!  my story isn't so lonely anymore!

still.  the two of them could certainly use some more friends.  stories always like company.


Sent from my LG-H830 using Tapatalk

You make it sound like stories are little old ladies.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 16, 2017, 10:32:52 AM
When the time comes to write urban, I, for one, will try to add in a bicycle.
I said that almost two years ago when there was some talk about bicycles (which inspired Jmack to include a bicycle in his wonderful Rogues story)... so I should probably write something for this. Don't really feel like writing, though.  :-\


Also in March 2015:
We'll do urban later this year, you can save the bicycles for that month. ;)
Better late than never, xiagan?  ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on January 16, 2017, 10:38:24 AM
When the time comes to write urban, I, for one, will try to add in a bicycle.
I said that almost two years ago when there was some talk about bicycles (which inspired Jmack to include a bicycle in his wonderful Rogues story)... so I should probably write something for this. Don't really feel like writing, though.  :-\


Also in March 2015:
We'll do urban later this year, you can save the bicycles for that month. ;)
Better late than never, xiagan?  ;)
Maybe YOUR boring year has twelve months. That's annualism and not okay. A year is allowed to have 23 months too! ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 16, 2017, 06:58:20 PM
Man, I really thought we'd have more submissions by now. Perhaps a flood will arrive closer to the end of the month.

Oh, and going back to urban fantasy books, it occurs to me that Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series absolutely qualifies. I mean, the first book (On a Pale Horse) is about a normal dude in a modern setting who becomes Death and drives around taking souls. He rides a horse that can turn into a Lamborghini. Also, Satan is known to be real and actually advertises and actively recruits people to join him in Hell.

It's really good.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 16, 2017, 07:23:25 PM
Man, I really thought we'd have more submissions by now. Perhaps a flood will arrive closer to the end of the month.

Oh, and going back to urban fantasy books, it occurs to me that Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series absolutely qualifies. I mean, the first book (On a Pale Horse) is about a normal dude in a modern setting who becomes Death and drives around taking souls. He rides a horse that can turn into a Lamborghini. Also, Satan is known to be real and actually advertises and actively recruits people to join him in Hell.

It's really good.

Oh, that book is on my tbr.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 17, 2017, 12:07:44 AM
Well, I just submitted my short story, so now the number sits at three. This is my first foray into UF (though this is only the third thing I've written), so it was interesting. I think the only thing I've read that's UF is Simon R. Green's Nightside series. But I love the monthly writing challenge, so I'm definitely entering the rest of these.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 17, 2017, 02:35:02 AM
Well, I just submitted my short story, so now the number sits at three. This is my first foray into UF (though this is only the third thing I've written), so it was interesting. I think the only thing I've read that's UF is Simon R. Green's Nightside series. But I love the monthly writing challenge, so I'm definitely entering the rest of these.

woot!

three!

*highfives all around*
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 17, 2017, 03:16:37 PM
Tebakutis,

I've tried to reply to your message, but it keeps giving me an error or telling me I don't have permission, so I'm just going to tell you here.  I have no issues with you tweeting about my short story, so by all means, please.  Thank you.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady_Ty on January 17, 2017, 09:46:59 PM
Tebakutis,

I've tried to reply to your message, but it keeps giving me an error or telling me I don't have permission, so I'm just going to tell you here.  I have no issues with you tweeting about my short story, so by all means, please.  Thank you.

Your messages go through, but this error has been around a while. When you have sent your PM ignore the error message, press refresh, go to Home then check your messages again. The PM should be in your Sent list, very occasionally in Outbox for a short time.

If it is really missing check you are still logged in because that can time out in 60 mins, unless you have ticked the stay logged in box.
Also, always copy a very long post before pressing preview just in case.

BTW Welcome to FF ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: TOMunro on January 17, 2017, 11:39:29 PM
Quote
Okay!!

I'm IN! surprisingly second by the middle of the month? What's up fellows? Where is faster than light @TOMunro this month?

Ah @Nora I'm afraid real life is being a bit of a drag at the moment, weighed down more with work and unleavened by any inspiration - it's a bit flat at the moment.

I'll try to read and vote this month (and maybe get back and critique last month) but not looking likely to contribute I'm afraid.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 18, 2017, 01:23:45 AM
Your messages go through, but this error has been around a while. When you have sent your PM ignore the error message, press refresh, go to Home then check your messages again. The PM should be in your Sent list, very occasionally in Outbox for a short time.

If it is really missing check you are still logged in because that can time out in 60 mins, unless you have ticked the stay logged in box.
Also, always copy a very long post before pressing preview just in case.

BTW Welcome to FF ;D

Thanks!  As a budding author and avid reader, this place is amazing!  I'm kicking myself for not finding it earlier.  I'm happy to be a part of the community.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 18, 2017, 05:30:15 AM
I've written something, well most of something and I think it's going to go way over word count. I still don't have a title yet, but all things in time. Hopefully I can get this into some sort of shape and post it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 18, 2017, 10:59:39 AM
I've written something, well most of something and I think it's going to go way over word count. I still don't have a title yet, but all things in time. Hopefully I can get this into some sort of shape and post it.

You can do it! Luckily you still have another 2 weeks.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 18, 2017, 08:44:00 PM
I've written something, well most of something and I think it's going to go way over word count. I still don't have a title yet, but all things in time. Hopefully I can get this into some sort of shape and post it.

You can do it! Luckily you still have another 2 weeks.
Ty gennerik. It's finished, it did go over word count, but I can probably cut enough to fit it, it wasn't horrendously over. Still don't have a title.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 19, 2017, 12:20:56 AM
Ty gennerik. It's finished, it did go over word count, but I can probably cut enough to fit it, it wasn't horrendously over. Still don't have a title.

You can let me read it, and I'll tell you what I'd call it.   ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 19, 2017, 12:36:43 AM
Ty gennerik. It's finished, it did go over word count, but I can probably cut enough to fit it, it wasn't horrendously over. Still don't have a title.

You can let me read it, and I'll tell you what I'd call it.   ;D

That's actually not a bad idea. Authors typically give their own works terrible names. I've heard quite a few authors say they let their editor or beta readers come up with their title.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 19, 2017, 12:39:40 AM
Screw that!  :o

Birthing a book might take years or months, long enough for a baby to get born and learn to walk and maybe even talk, and you'd let friends name that kid for you?
I'd agree on brainstorming the title ideas, but I'd want to agree to it and like it. Ideally I'd like my editor to like my idea.

However, blurbs I cannot abide. I can totally see how authors are the least qualified to write them.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 19, 2017, 04:41:07 AM
My wife is better at coming up with titles than I am. I have a tentative title for it, just not sure if I'll use that one. I tend to agree with Nora that naming a story or a book is a little like naming a kid. It has to fit and the author has to be happy with it. Although I have heard of a few authors who had their books named by their publishers. I know J.V Jones wanted to call her first trilogy something else, but the publishers won out with Book of Words, which I always thought was a really ordinary title, devoid of inspiration, unfortunately she never revealed what her title was.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 19, 2017, 03:15:12 PM
My wife is better at coming up with titles than I am. I have a tentative title for it, just not sure if I'll use that one. I tend to agree with Nora that naming a story or a book is a little like naming a kid. It has to fit and the author has to be happy with it. Although I have heard of a few authors who had their books named by their publishers. I know J.V Jones wanted to call her first trilogy something else, but the publishers won out with Book of Words, which I always thought was a really ordinary title, devoid of inspiration, unfortunately she never revealed what her title was.

For me, I usually can't come up with a good title for a book until after I've written it. Once it's complete, and I have the entire story in my mind, oddly enough, I often come up with titles I think are really clever. Of course, they may not be... :p
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 19, 2017, 03:27:51 PM
yeah.  i'm flat-out terrible with titles.  my wip, for example, has changed titles about 10 times and i'm only around the 50k word mark.

/sigh
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 19, 2017, 04:18:25 PM
Yeah I was listening to the Writing Excuses podcast, and most of the members were saying that they let their beta readers brainstorm for them, and then picked their favorite out of the bunch. Then it would go to their editor, and only then would it be finalized.

Titles are important. Like REALLY important. I didn't get into Jim Butcher for years because of his shitty "Storm Front" title for his first Dresden book. It just felt so Dean Koontz-y.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 19, 2017, 04:38:35 PM
I have like 3 WIPs going on, including one I spent half a year writing to an astronomic word count and a year and half later I have no idea what to name the thing.

The current WIP has a title as it was one of my shorts but it's definitely not the title I'm gonna use for it when finished.

Maybe I should do like Joe Abercrombie, pick up some famous phrase and select a few words of it, like Best Served Cold or Before They Are Hanged.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 19, 2017, 08:09:31 PM
I have like 3 WIPs going on, including one I spent half a year writing to an astronomic word count and a year and half later I have no idea what to name the thing.

The current WIP has a title as it was one of my shorts but it's definitely not the title I'm gonna use for it when finished.

Maybe I should do like Joe Abercrombie, pick up some famous phrase and select a few words of it, like Best Served Cold or Before They Are Hanged.

Joe Abercrombie, being my favorite author, can do no wrong. So I suggest you follow suit.  ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: DevinBM on January 19, 2017, 08:47:46 PM
I have like 3 WIPs going on, including one I spent half a year writing to an astronomic word count and a year and half later I have no idea what to name the thing.

The current WIP has a title as it was one of my shorts but it's definitely not the title I'm gonna use for it when finished.

Maybe I should do like Joe Abercrombie, pick up some famous phrase and select a few words of it, like Best Served Cold or Before They Are Hanged.


Joe Abercrombie, being my favorite author, can do no wrong. So I suggest you follow suit.  ;D
Best Served Cold is an amazing novel and the title just fits flawlessly. I am definitely not as adept at picking my titles. Then again, the entry I wrote yesterday was written in one sitting and then edited in one other sitting. I was on a roll, but then the momentum ran out and I just stared at my screen for an hour trying to come up with a title. lol.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 19, 2017, 10:11:09 PM
To be honest I absolutely don't think titles matter in this contest.

Of course, I only won once, but that one time was when our title was designated (we used titles of famous novels).
In my other works, some of which made it to podium, I have one story called "The Wolf", another "The wolf of tales", and both are re-writes on the theme of little red riding hood. A story in second place was called "Marked" because the character was called a "marked"..."Blink" was also popular, and it's called that because the MC blinks to use her power... This month I went for "The Artist" because it's who the MC chases, even though the Artist never appears at all.  :D
I like to believe those titles don't matter. Of course some do a bit, like Rukaio's super long ones with parentheses and all... It's a bit of comedy before the text itself.
Otherwise, I hardly even notice them. I guess I read them, but I'd be hard pressed to remember any story here by its title.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 19, 2017, 10:59:43 PM
I've restarted this with three different things. Again. Yaaayyyyy...
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 20, 2017, 12:42:05 AM
For those folks who've already given me the all clear to tease their stories, I'll be posting a teaser every day or three. I will probably circle back around to stories multiple times depending on how many submissions we get. So far, I think this is working really well!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 20, 2017, 08:12:19 PM
My story's in! Just like Dragons, this was a really fun theme. I look forward to seeing what everyone else comes up with!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 20, 2017, 09:58:41 PM
When the time comes to write urban, I, for one, will try to add in a bicycle.
I said that almost two years ago when there was some talk about bicycles (which inspired Jmack to include a bicycle in his wonderful Rogues story)... so I should probably write something for this. Don't really feel like writing, though.  :-\

So, @ArcaneArtsVelho, how is your bicycle story coming along? ;D You've got 10 days!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 20, 2017, 10:50:50 PM
When the time comes to write urban, I, for one, will try to add in a bicycle.
I said that almost two years ago when there was some talk about bicycles (which inspired Jmack to include a bicycle in his wonderful Rogues story)... so I should probably write something for this. Don't really feel like writing, though.  :-\

So, @ArcaneArtsVelho, how is your bicycle story coming along? ;D You've got 10 days!
It's not.
I have a few ideas, but I don't really want to write. Or to be honest, I do want to write, but because I know that whatever I write ends up being... poop (like pretty much all the stories I have written for the contest in the past), I'd rather not.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 21, 2017, 12:02:42 AM
It's not.
I have a few ideas, but I don't really want to write. Or to be honest, I do want to write, but because I know that whatever I write ends up being... poop (like pretty much all the stories I have written for the contest in the past), I'd rather not.

uh.  no.

while i love being contrarian just because, this time, i can honestly say you're full of poop if you think your stories are poop.

(http://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/b8/89/b889fcdeb8e7278d4c1294739cc620a1.png) <-- NOT AAV STORIES.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: DevinBM on January 21, 2017, 01:56:31 AM
When the time comes to write urban, I, for one, will try to add in a bicycle.
I said that almost two years ago when there was some talk about bicycles (which inspired Jmack to include a bicycle in his wonderful Rogues story)... so I should probably write something for this. Don't really feel like writing, though.  :-\

So, @ArcaneArtsVelho, how is your bicycle story coming along? ;D You've got 10 days!
It's not.
I have a few ideas, but I don't really want to write. Or to be honest, I do want to write, but because I know that whatever I write ends up being... poop (like pretty much all the stories I have written for the contest in the past), I'd rather not.

I'm sure you've done some awesome entries too. As far as crap is concerned, I think we've all made plenty of that in the past. It's not a good reason to not enter. C'mon give the rest of us some more competition! The stories in so far are good, but there's plenty of time for you to send in a great one and blow us all away.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 21, 2017, 02:09:38 PM
Interestingly, my stories normally don't get named until late into the process.  I'll write something down just to describe it, and then at some point the name with present itself. My first novella was called Journey to the Top until it was almost done, then when I named the mountain, I finally decided on Lamentation's Peak. The two stories I currently am writing are Island of Trees and Airship Captain, so the initial name isn't really important (because neither of those are going to be final, I can tell you that!)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 21, 2017, 09:14:57 PM
(http://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/b8/89/b889fcdeb8e7278d4c1294739cc620a1.png) <-- NOT AAV STORIES.
Yeah, not happy poop but very sad poop.  :(

I'm sure you've done some awesome entries too.
Nah, not awesome. A few mediocre ones, maybe, but that's about it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 21, 2017, 10:14:55 PM
Guys. I can't seem to make posts or pm people! Tebakutis. If I'm actually able to PM you I'll give you my plot to make teasers for...if I can ask you something. Privately. XD
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: DevinBM on January 21, 2017, 10:27:15 PM
Guys. I can't seem to make posts or pm people! Tebakutis. If I'm actually able to PM you I'll give you my plot to make teasers for...if I can ask you something. Privately. XD

Check your sent items. I thought mine was messing up too, but it turned out that they were going through and I was just spamming people by accident. LOL.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 21, 2017, 10:35:25 PM
Oh. Well, the PM still didn't send.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on January 22, 2017, 04:56:06 PM
I finally made some real progress on my entry today. Had two good scenes but a terrible bridge between them. Hopefully that's fixed now. Should be done by midweek.

The strangest thing for me is that, even though I've been struggling with it, I'm also really enjoying it. That can only be a good sign.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 23, 2017, 02:06:33 AM
Oh. Well, the PM still didn't send.

I actually did get your PM, @shadowkat678 ! Just ignore the white screen that appears after you send it. Feel free to send me whatever you want, I won't spoil it. :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 23, 2017, 02:25:29 AM
Oh. Well, the PM still didn't send.

I actually did get your PM, @shadowkat678 ! Just ignore the white screen that appears after you send it. Feel free to send me whatever you want, I won't spoil it. :)

Oh. Okay then.

Edit: Sent it. Just...heads up. I accidentally hit send trying to fix a formatting thing. You'll probably know when you see it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 24, 2017, 02:41:05 AM
This is super embarrassing, but for the first time ever, I'm considering withdrawing my submission and working on something new.
Beyond the obvious weaknesses of my piece, which I'd usually be content to let be, I've started a little work inspired from a recent series on an over powered psychic character, and I'm much more pleased with it. It follows the fairy-tale-ish narrative voice I've grown so fond of, and... I don't know what to do now. I don't even think it'll be much of a story, short and cruel and mostly a prose exercise. But the character is so much more heartfelt... Pfff.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 24, 2017, 02:47:12 AM
This is super embarrassing, but for the first time ever, I'm considering withdrawing my submission and working on something new.
Beyond the obvious weaknesses of my piece, which I'd usually be content to let be, I've started a little work inspired from a recent series on an over powered psychic character, and I'm much more pleased with it. It follows the fairy-tale-ish narrative voice I've grown so fond of, and... I don't know what to do now. I don't even think it'll be much of a story, short and cruel and mostly a prose exercise. But the character is so much more heartfelt... Pfff.

Hmm. Don't see what would stop you! The thread hasn't closed yet. You could just edit your post and insert the new story, couldn't you? If you have a idea that excites you more than what you put down already, I say delete your original and post the new one!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 24, 2017, 05:01:05 AM
OMG, @Elfy 's story title is THE BEST.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 24, 2017, 05:02:09 AM
This is super embarrassing, but for the first time ever, I'm considering withdrawing my submission and working on something new.
Beyond the obvious weaknesses of my piece, which I'd usually be content to let be, I've started a little work inspired from a recent series on an over powered psychic character, and I'm much more pleased with it. It follows the fairy-tale-ish narrative voice I've grown so fond of, and... I don't know what to do now. I don't even think it'll be much of a story, short and cruel and mostly a prose exercise. But the character is so much more heartfelt... Pfff.

Hmm. Don't see what would stop you! The thread hasn't closed yet. You could just edit your post and insert the new story, couldn't you? If you have a idea that excites you more than what you put down already, I say delete your original and post the new one!

agreed!  swap that sucker out!


OMG, @Elfy 's story title is THE BEST.

also agreed.  i totally logged in just to say that!!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 24, 2017, 09:31:10 AM
This is super embarrassing, but for the first time ever, I'm considering withdrawing my submission and working on something new.
Beyond the obvious weaknesses of my piece, which I'd usually be content to let be, I've started a little work inspired from a recent series on an over powered psychic character, and I'm much more pleased with it. It follows the fairy-tale-ish narrative voice I've grown so fond of, and... I don't know what to do now. I don't even think it'll be much of a story, short and cruel and mostly a prose exercise. But the character is so much more heartfelt... Pfff.

Hmm. Don't see what would stop you! The thread hasn't closed yet. You could just edit your post and insert the new story, couldn't you? If you have a idea that excites you more than what you put down already, I say delete your original and post the new one!

agreed!  swap that sucker out!


OMG, @Elfy 's story title is THE BEST.

also agreed.  i totally logged in just to say that!!

Agree with everyone ;D

Nora, sure, go ahead and change if you feel like that! There's no rule that says that what you posted first has to be the final one.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 24, 2017, 09:54:16 AM
Thanks for the positives on the title. Hope the story lives up to it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 24, 2017, 04:54:51 PM
hahaha @Elfy - the story I just wrote could easily have the same title the way its currently written. My characters literally find a big piece of weird shit in a sewer system. Could get edited out though   :'(

 ;D

Which brings me to my current conundrum. Just wrote 2k words of FUN in a single sitting, and now I have to pare it down to 1500. This format is just so so painful, but it sure is helping me with the editing process.

And this all means I'll actually have a story this month! Yay! *high fives all around*
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 25, 2017, 03:45:46 AM
To @Elfy, @D_Bates, and @Jmack ... let me know if you're cool with a line from your story being used to tease the F-F Competition on Twitter. Thanks!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 25, 2017, 05:24:36 AM
To @Elfy, @D_Bates, and @Jmack ... let me know if you're cool with a line from your story being used to tease the F-F Competition on Twitter. Thanks!
Absolutely fine. Anything that can stimulate more interest in the contest and the forum is fine by me.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Bates on January 25, 2017, 09:36:22 AM
Same here.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 25, 2017, 06:22:05 PM
I'm in! God I took a lot of good bits out of that story. It feels naked now, but so be it. Hope y'all enjoy!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 25, 2017, 06:26:54 PM
I'm in! God I took a lot of good bits out of that story. It feels naked now, but so be it. Hope y'all enjoy!

enjoy naked stories?  hell yeah!!

. . . oh.

i don't think we're talking about the same thing.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on January 25, 2017, 06:47:33 PM
And got mine in too. :)

Had a lot of fun working on this one, hope you have as much fun reading it.

@tebakutis feel free to sample for the Twitter thing.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 25, 2017, 06:51:59 PM
@tebakutis feel free to sample for the Twitter thing.

Rock on! \m/
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on January 25, 2017, 09:34:41 PM
@mjolnir, I can't send you a message (and summoning isn't working right either), so I'm telling you here that you can't delete posts (because somebody once deleted a whole thread he started because he didn't agree with the way the discussion went and we have disabled it since then) and that I did it for you.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 25, 2017, 09:44:10 PM
@mjolnir, I can't send you a message (and summoning isn't working right either), so I'm telling you here that you can't delete posts (because somebody once deleted a whole thread he started because he didn't agree with the way the discussion went and we have disabled it since then) and that I did it for you.

Rage-quitting, forum edition.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: LightRunner on January 26, 2017, 01:34:16 AM
Finished a first draft today, so I should be able to get it through an edit and down to 1500 words by the deadline.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: DevinBM on January 26, 2017, 02:24:32 AM
Y'all be makin me nervous. Why is everyone such good authors?  :-[
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 26, 2017, 03:31:11 AM
Y'all be makin me nervous. Why is everyone such good authors?  :-[

aha!  we're discovered!  it's all a clever ruse to get you to be nervous!

<insert cardboard villain laugh>

but, seriously -- no way, man.  we're all learning!  some of us have just been doing it a bit longer.  working up more entries.  eventually, you'll be there too!

but, to be honest, this is less a contest than a big ol' club where the only membership requirement is that you write a story.  stretching, challenging yourself, reading other interpretations of the same topic, critiques at the end, it's all a growing process.

we get excited when more people enter.  we get excited when other people read our stuff.  we get excited to practice.

winning?  meh.  whatever.  nbd.

working with a deadline?  awesome.

getting someone to read your stuff and give opinions on it?  awesome.

deconstructing others' writing and offering a critique?  awesome.

these are all things that will grow your toolset as a writer.  it's a super-fabulous thing.

tho, keep in mind, this is all coming from a guy who, while driving through the countryside, STILL points out the window and hollers, "look! horses!!"

yay!  mad props for having the courage to take the first step!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 26, 2017, 10:07:04 AM
You are so fab, m3m ;D ;D

I also add, from the perspective of a non-writer, that I love reading all these stories! Some are more my style than others, but all this time (basically 3 years :o) of reading has also extended my comfort zone, making me read different things and be open to whole books outside that zone :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: DevinBM on January 26, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
Thanks guys. I think the main reason for the nerves is coming from the fact that I never write in 1st person POV and have never written a character that acts and thinks the way Jonathan acts from my entry.

It was definitely stretching outside my comfort zone. When my wife read my entry she was like, "What did you do? You never write like that." Of course my brain went, "OH CRAP ITS HORRIBLE!", but I entered it anyway because why not? Plus, I'd never get feedback on it if I don't put it out there.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 26, 2017, 03:25:32 PM
Thanks guys. I think the main reason for the nerves is coming from the fact that I never write in 1st person POV and have never written a character that acts and thinks the way Jonathan acts from my entry.

It was definitely stretching outside my comfort zone. When my wife read my entry she was like, "What did you do? You never write like that." Of course my brain went, "OH CRAP ITS HORRIBLE!", but I entered it anyway because why not? Plus, I'd never get feedback on it if I don't put it out there.

that's the spirit!

/highfive

you don't get better at your craft until you get out of your own head -- because you don't know what you don't know about your writing.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 26, 2017, 08:59:28 PM
I've written...a little bit more. Nothing is coming out right and with everything going on around here I'm surprised I've had any focus whatsoever.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmack on January 28, 2017, 02:52:34 PM
@tebakutis:

Sorry I didn't see your post until today, but am very happy you used my story to promote the contest. I got a great kick out of the Twitter post and seeing one of my lines show up.

And hello everyone.  ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 28, 2017, 10:57:46 PM
Hello, Jmack.

DevinBM, m3mnoch is correct. We're all learning, and honestly, even most established authors are constantly learning. Don't be discouraged by comparing your work to others, especially here. Personally, I consider my writing high quality, but I love when people critique it, because it helps me get better. Just write as well as you can, and be willing to take thoughtful feedback (though you don't have to take it all.  You should be developing your own style, not trying to mimic someone else). Before you know it, you'll be helping other people that are less confident in their writing.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Elfy on January 28, 2017, 11:39:23 PM
@tebakutis:

Sorry I didn't see your post until today, but am very happy you used my story to promote the contest. I got a great kick out of the Twitter post and seeing one of my lines show up.

And hello everyone.  ;D
I'll second that, and I loved the line of mine that was used.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 29, 2017, 01:11:55 AM
Even with three days left, and no proper back up, I'm still not sure I want my current story to be my final one. What a dreadful pickle.

Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 29, 2017, 06:56:13 PM
Wait. There's three days left? I thought there was only today and tomorrow? Cool. Maybe I can fix some of the problems I got in my writing then. It's...another rushed looking one.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: DevinBM on January 29, 2017, 07:03:34 PM
I refuse to edit mine anymore. I looked at it and changed things incessantly for a week, and it drove me crazy. Last minute changes will just mess it all up for me. It's on there as is, and if it's junk, at least I'll find out in a few days. LOL  :o
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 29, 2017, 07:04:47 PM
I still need to wrap up the final scene. I'm trying to do that now. It's HAARRRRDDDDD.....  :'(
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 29, 2017, 07:19:49 PM
I'm spending my evening and day off tomorrow to edit and polish a potential replacement story for this month. What intense bull....  ;D

I wrote 1,500 words on my iPhone in the last few days. There HAS to be something I can do with this mess...
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 29, 2017, 08:56:49 PM
I feel you so hard it hurts.  8)

It's especially annoying because I have school tomorrow (if my professors don't cancel. Apparently snow is on the way tonight) and the fourm clock is six hours above my timezone.  :'(
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 29, 2017, 09:51:38 PM
I feel you so hard it hurts.  8)

It's especially annoying because I have school tomorrow (if my professors don't cancel. Apparently snow is on the way tonight) and the fourm clock is six hours above my timezone.  :'(

Don't sleep. Just write! You can sleep in class tomorrow!  :D

I'm at my fourth re-write, it's nerve-wracking.  :(  Maybe I won't change my story, but this one wants to come out so hard, it has to be worth it.

Don't make yourself too nervous, if you want a few more hours, just message Bea. If she kept the thread open two whole days for lazy Lanko, she can keep it 6h for you if it makes a difference.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Jmack on January 29, 2017, 09:55:16 PM
@Lanko!

If you ever run against Trump for public office, he already has his insult to hand.

"Lazy Lanko."

 8)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 29, 2017, 10:04:13 PM
 ;D

Yep, don't worry @shadowkat678, you have until the end of day 1 February at the very earliest, and if you need some more time I can wait :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 29, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
Cool. Thank you.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 30, 2017, 01:06:48 AM
OMG, my eyes are bleeding!! I just finished assembling my story, from a pile of snippets and no clear plot, to a polished, bare bones race hound of a story I'm stoked about.
It's 1am, I've been at it since coming home at 7pm...  :o  I didn't even notice!!
I've been doing 6 hours of writing non stop, no breaks, all to go from 1,500 words to 1,394, with 2 re-writes.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/czOM9AjyWfi8w/giphy.gif)

Ok, I think I'll sit on it tonight and edit my story tomorrow... I need to go and pass out now.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 30, 2017, 07:55:15 AM
OMG, my eyes are bleeding!! I just finished assembling my story, from a pile of snippets and no clear plot, to a polished, bare bones race hound of a story I'm stoked about.
It's 1am, I've been at it since coming home at 7pm...  :o  I didn't even notice!!
I've been doing 6 hours of writing non stop, no breaks, all to go from 1,500 words to 1,394, with 2 re-writes.

Welcome to my routine  ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 30, 2017, 03:38:33 PM
OMG, my eyes are bleeding!! I just finished assembling my story, from a pile of snippets and no clear plot, to a polished, bare bones race hound of a story I'm stoked about.
It's 1am, I've been at it since coming home at 7pm...  :o  I didn't even notice!!
I've been doing 6 hours of writing non stop, no breaks, all to go from 1,500 words to 1,394, with 2 re-writes.

Welcome to my routine  ::)

Yes well, except this is my second story of the month...  Where is yours at??  :P
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 30, 2017, 04:17:34 PM
OMG, my eyes are bleeding!! I just finished assembling my story, from a pile of snippets and no clear plot, to a polished, bare bones race hound of a story I'm stoked about.
It's 1am, I've been at it since coming home at 7pm...  :o  I didn't even notice!!
I've been doing 6 hours of writing non stop, no breaks, all to go from 1,500 words to 1,394, with 2 re-writes.

Welcome to my routine  ::)

Yes well, except this is my second story of the month...  Where is yours at??  :P

I actually finished it last week, as I promised! Rewriting is being slow and painful due to other stuff going on, though.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 30, 2017, 04:19:20 PM
OMG, my eyes are bleeding!! I just finished assembling my story, from a pile of snippets and no clear plot, to a polished, bare bones race hound of a story I'm stoked about.
It's 1am, I've been at it since coming home at 7pm...  :o  I didn't even notice!!
I've been doing 6 hours of writing non stop, no breaks, all to go from 1,500 words to 1,394, with 2 re-writes.

Welcome to my routine  ::)

Yes well, except this is my second story of the month...  Where is yours at??  :P

I actually finished it last week, as I promised! Rewriting is being slow and painful due to other stuff going on, though.

Whoa! Good work!!  :D

edit : I'm officially in again. First time I've ended up writing two stories... Now the first one feels like an unwanted puppy. 0_0
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 30, 2017, 07:00:58 PM
Whoa! Good work!!  :D

edit : I'm officially in again. First time I've ended up writing two stories... Now the first one feels like an unwanted puppy. 0_0

Don't kick the puppy to the side!  You've got to nurture it.  Maybe it'll surprise you.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 30, 2017, 07:59:15 PM
I feel like I have too much going on...I may...have to cut things...but...ugghhhhh. *sobs*
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 30, 2017, 08:13:44 PM
I feel like I have too much going on...I may...have to cut things...but...ugghhhhh. *sobs*

Yes you do! Less is more!

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Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: LightRunner on January 31, 2017, 05:01:53 AM
Well, what I thought was going to be an edit became a re-write (followed by a quick edit). I've decided that I prefer editing to re-writing. Re-writing feels like such an inefficient way to arrive at a story.

But, I got something posted. We'll call that a success, regardless of whatever messes and loose ends I left in there.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 31, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Doesn't that depend on the story?

I've just done three rewrite of the same story. The first draft was a ton of sentences that made no story by themselves, the second was all those ideas making sense in a plot but still not making a good story, the third was a boring, clunky and A to B type story. The third was lighter but all reworked to be interesting and light (in my own opinion of course).

Rewrites might suck but if what you have had great potential but is unpublishable as is, then isn't it the best of all option? It's pretty efficient because you know exactly what you want to say and where you want to get, just not how.
I often start rewrites in different tenses. I think of it as a way of changing clothes before going out, trying what'll make the story stand out the most  :D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 31, 2017, 03:51:55 PM
Rewrites might suck but if what you have had great potential but is unpublishable as is, then isn't it the best of all option? It's pretty efficient because you know exactly what you want to say and where you want to get, just not how.
I often start rewrites in different tenses. I think of it as a way of changing clothes before going out, trying what'll make the story stand out the most  :D

Couldn't agree more.  I normally try to avoid rewriting something, but sometimes it's unavoidable (or even preferred).  There have been a few times where I've written something that I'm initially happy with, but then later find that it's clunky or overly wordy.  Many times it's better/easier to just rewrite than the constant slashing and burning trying to fix it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 31, 2017, 04:07:50 PM
Rewrites might suck but if what you have had great potential but is unpublishable as is, then isn't it the best of all option? It's pretty efficient because you know exactly what you want to say and where you want to get, just not how.
I often start rewrites in different tenses. I think of it as a way of changing clothes before going out, trying what'll make the story stand out the most  :D

Couldn't agree more.  I normally try to avoid rewriting something, but sometimes it's unavoidable (or even preferred).  There have been a few times where I've written something that I'm initially happy with, but then later find that it's clunky or overly wordy.  Many times it's better/easier to just rewrite than the constant slashing and burning trying to fix it.

For a seat-of-pantser like me, re-writing is a given for anything I'm looking to publish. Not complete novel re-writes, but chapter re-writes are very common. I find this is especially a problem when I'm doing third-person and following several different characters. Messing up their voice is so common for me.


Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: LightRunner on January 31, 2017, 04:13:43 PM
I definitely agree that rewriting can get you to a much better story, but often if I am rewriting, the write becomes fundamentally different from the original draft. The one that I posted had the same setting and some of the same characters as the original, but their personality traits had shifted and the conflict was different.

So, in a lot of ways, I would consider the re-write a completely different story. Does that make sense? That's why it feels inefficient to me. Writing the second draft went quickly because I knew where I was going, but it's frustrating that I had to write a different story to get to the posted one.

I suppose that's how we grow as writers though...   :P
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on January 31, 2017, 05:07:08 PM
I definitely agree that rewriting can get you to a much better story, but often if I am rewriting, the write becomes fundamentally different from the original draft. The one that I posted had the same setting and some of the same characters as the original, but their personality traits had shifted and the conflict was different.

So, in a lot of ways, I would consider the re-write a completely different story. Does that make sense? That's why it feels inefficient to me. Writing the second draft went quickly because I knew where I was going, but it's frustrating that I had to write a different story to get to the posted one.

I suppose that's how we grow as writers though...   :P

That does happen, especially in shorter stories.  One write, you have a modern day, 1500 word thriller, the next you've got a 1500 word yesteryear dystopian alternate history.

That is why I try to keep my complete rewrites to a minimum, but sometimes you just have to take the plunge.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 31, 2017, 05:13:39 PM
If the story is completely different in a way you are happier with, it's evolution. If you're not happy with it and wanted to keep the original characters and motivations... then what are you a slave of, that you had no choice?

If you're unhappy with the way your rewrite went, just do another rewrite. *evil laughter*
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on January 31, 2017, 08:29:50 PM
Doing the last 500 words. The issue is transitioning the plot points in a believable and smooth transition. In other words...this is screwing me over. Rewrite, they said. Cut some things out, they agreed with. Looks better. Still not complete. 8)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 31, 2017, 09:01:02 PM
I still haven't seen @Lanko's story, despite some comments about not leaving stuff for the last day ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Rukaio_Alter on January 31, 2017, 10:48:44 PM
Phew. Got mine done just in time.

Funnily enough, I actually think this has been the most difficult month for me to come up with a story since I started doing this contest. Not because I couldn't think of any ideas, mind. On the contrary, my problem was I had too many ideas and none of them immediately felt strong enough, especially since I'm not the sort to go for a story idea unless I think it really stands out. Plus, as fun as doing zany comedies is, I've been trying to stretch out of my comfort zone for the last few weeks, so I couldn't just go to that fallback.

That said, I'm really happy with how this entry turned out. It was an idea I only came up with a day ago, yet it all flowed together so naturally. It's still light and amusing like I enjoy, but feels more structured and works in a more low-key way than usual. And hell, the first draft even came out at around 1500 words for once, so I didn't have to shear it all down like is so often the case.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on February 01, 2017, 03:05:44 AM
I DID IT! IT IS OFFICIALLY IN!!!!!!!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on February 01, 2017, 01:14:07 PM
My story is in.

I thought about submitting it anonymously, but the bicycle would have probably given me away.  ::)

It was pretty fun to write, listening to some film noir jazz, but the editing sucked. Went from 1850+ words to 1497, and I'm afraid that it shows.

Also tried to write it with American spelling this time because I felt it somehow fit the mood better. Emphasis on tried.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on February 01, 2017, 02:02:55 PM
@Lanko come on man, where is your story? You can't be two days late every month! Maybe missing a deadline or publishing unsatisfying material will boost your writing next time around!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on February 01, 2017, 02:40:13 PM
@Lanko come on man, where is your story? You can't be two days late every month! Maybe missing a deadline or publishing unsatisfying material will boost your writing next time around!
This, this!
I'm going to lock the thread later today >:(

Edit: wow, you submitted 30 seconds after I posted this ;D

Anyone else? I'm locking the thread, contact me if needed to add a last minute one ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on February 01, 2017, 02:42:46 PM
@Lanko come on man, where is your story? You can't be two days late every month! Maybe missing a deadline or publishing unsatisfying material will boost your writing next time around!

I did start it pretty early and actually finished it almost ten days ago! But it was pretty hard to get back to it due to various reasons. Well, it's in just in case, though I still need to cut or if I can't you can disqualify it. I'll see what I can do.

EDIT: Bea, you posted it just as I posted  ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on February 01, 2017, 02:49:09 PM
I'm just happy I wasn't the last one in. Thanks for taking that spot from me, you two. 8)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on February 01, 2017, 02:56:45 PM
I'm just happy I wasn't the last one in. Thanks for taking that spot from me, you two. 8)

The last shall be the first! It works sometimes  ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on February 01, 2017, 03:11:18 PM
as fun as doing zany comedies is

ha!  i love that you said 'zany'!  i literally laugh-snorted.  so good.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on February 01, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
Hey. When does voting and critique normally start again??? Also...I noticed a bad typo in mine. Any way I could get that changed... (Where's the "Embarrassed laugh" emoji when you need it?)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on February 01, 2017, 10:04:08 PM
I'll create the voting thread tomorrow morning.
Critique is after the results, so you can start critiquing in the Dragon stories, not these ones.
And I'll unlock the topic (it was unlocked), so you can fix it.

 :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on February 01, 2017, 11:13:20 PM
Okay. Might take a hour before I can get to it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: shadowkat678 on February 02, 2017, 01:08:53 AM
Okay. I finished...now that I reread it I don't like it nearly as much anymore.  :'(

Edit: Also, am I allowed to share this on other sites now that I've put it up here? I really want feedback. Because I feel like there's a lot of things I could improve on and I want some opinions so I can do better next time, you know? I think I tried to fit too much into it. XD
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on February 02, 2017, 07:07:05 AM
Look at that! Someone just posted a story! That means for the first time in a whole year I'm not the last story!

See, @ScarletBea, I fulfilled the promise to not be the last story submitted!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on February 02, 2017, 09:47:07 AM
Look at that! Someone just posted a story! That means for the first time in a whole year I'm not the last story!

See, @ScarletBea, I fulfilled the promise to not be the last story submitted!

You deserve the whip.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on February 02, 2017, 10:14:00 AM
Nah, not yet ;)

I'm also trying to fix the newbie's posts (@xiagan, help) - but good of them to enter :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on February 02, 2017, 10:26:59 AM
Sorry for the double post, but I was creating the Voting thread and just noticed @Alex Hormann's title - I can't wait to read that one ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on February 02, 2017, 10:41:35 AM
Sorry for the double post, but I was creating the Voting thread and just noticed @Alex Hormann's title - I can't wait to read that one ;D

Hope you enjoy the story itself just as much.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Writerlife on February 02, 2017, 04:58:17 PM
My story was super late but read up and cast your vote for me. Guess it would be good to have some buzz but I'm late on that one.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on February 05, 2017, 02:01:38 AM
My story was super late but read up and cast your vote for me. Guess it would be good to have some buzz but I'm late on that one.

i'm about to read it!  i hope it's one i end up voting for!
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Writerlife on February 05, 2017, 09:57:15 PM
A few typos but had a lot on my plate and rushed. But hope you like it. All feed back accepted.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on February 05, 2017, 10:09:41 PM
A few typos but had a lot on my plate and rushed. But hope you like it. All feed back accepted.

Feedback comes when we open the Critic thread after the voting is done, so from March.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on February 06, 2017, 12:45:45 AM
Oh, but that's so far away....
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on February 06, 2017, 09:20:44 AM
Oh, but that's so far away....

It's logical, because it's a monthly event. So people start writing on the new month, and do some critics on the side (sadly, few people actually critic, sometimes even after receiving critics of their own). We also have a new voting. Each month we write, vote, and eventually critic, all on three different topics.
It's well spaced out and it works. I don't think people would be as involved otherwise. Most voters have not even read your story yet. Many will read and vote but not say what they thought of it. And maybe some would not bother to vote if they were forced to review.
It's also good because it gives you time away from your story. A whole month is long enough to distance yourself and see if you did so good a job, and also read the others' stories.
So it's a good system. Mostly people get what they want.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: gennerik on February 06, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
I understand. I'm just always eager to have the chance for people to tell me what they think of my writing (I believe the proper term for it is Newb). Writing is amazing, but I've found that it's incredibly difficult to get feedback, which is annoying since that's how you improve. So while the system in place works really well, I'm just impatient. Probably because this is the first competition that I've entered.
Title: Re: [Jan 2017] - Urban Fantasy - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on February 06, 2017, 01:02:00 PM
I understand. I'm just always eager to have the chance for people to tell me what they think of my writing (I believe the proper term for it is Newb). Writing is amazing, but I've found that it's incredibly difficult to get feedback, which is annoying since that's how you improve. So while the system in place works really well, I'm just impatient. Probably because this is the first competition that I've entered.

You'll get used to it in no time, and soon realise how fast things actually go here. I mean, compared to other places where you can wait for a few months before you know if you won or not, and likely get zero feedback...

If you want immediate review, you can share things you've written in the critic section (though obviously not the story under vote). But keep in mind that the more you review others, the more likely you're to get reviews in return.