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Title: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on January 01, 2016, 06:52:22 PM
Breaking the Fourth Wall

(http://i.imgur.com/digbVo0.jpg)
One of the many times Deadpool breaks the fourth wall.

I think most of you are familiar with the term "breaking the fourth wall".
It's mostly done in children's books (like Grover in Sesame Street's 'The Monster at the End of this Book'), comics (see above) or movies (comedy movies mainly) and means usually a character becoming aware of their fictional nature, directly addressing the reader and/or interacting with their creator.

While it's often done in a comedic way, it's possible to do it in a tragic way too (the main character is questioning his existence for example).

I think it is pretty hard to pull this off in a fantasy story (SF is probably a bit easier) and I haven't seen it done in a short story before, so I'm excited to see what you can come up with.

Here are some examples:

Dingo: "Oh, wicked, bad, naughty, evil Zoot! She is a bad person and must pay the penalty... Do you think this scene should have been cut? We were so worried when the boys were writing it, but now, we're glad. It's better than some of the previous scenes, I think..." (Monty Python's Holy Grail)
 
You don't know about me without you have read a book by the name of The Adventures of Tom Sawyer; but that ain't no matter.” (Mark Twain, Adventures of Huckleberry Finn)

If you want to do more reading about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_wall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta-reference
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BreakingTheFourthWall
http://writeonsisters.com/writing-craft/pros-cons-breaking-fourth-wall/ <- greatly recommended


Rules:

1. This must be prose or poetry.
2. The fourth wall must be broken.
3. Prose must be 500-1500 words long.
4. Poetry must be 100-500 words long.
5. One story per person or writing team (not per account).
6. You will be disqualified if you exceed the limits, full stop. That's why they're called limits.
7. Your entry can't be published somewhere else before.
8. This is a writing contest, not a "I have written something like this ten years ago" contest. So if you happen to have a story that fits one of the themes, I'd like it to have a mayor overhaul/edit. Work for it. ;)
9. Please add your story's word count and, if you have, your twitter handle.
10. Please put your story in [ spoiler ] tags to make the thread easier to handle. :) You can find them above the smileys next to the 'youtube' symbol.

Entry will close January 31st, February 1st, 2016 and voting will begin somewhere around the same time too.

All members are eligible to join. If you are not a member you can join here (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/register/). Sign up is free and all are welcome! :)

The winner will have their piece displayed on the main Fantasy Faction website sometime in the next months.

Please post your entry here (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/%28jan-2016%29-breaking-the-fourth-wall/%28jan-2016%29-breaking-the-fourth-wall-submission-thread/new/#new).

Note: This thread is only for questions or discussing this month's writing contest. Good luck!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on January 01, 2016, 07:11:05 PM
Nice topic!

Re: this bit:

I haven't seen it done in a short story before, so I'm excited to see what you can come up with.

Didn't @Rukaio_Alter (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40087) do that in one of his stories for the writing contest? Could've sworn that he did...
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 01, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
Re: this bit:

I haven't seen it done in a short story before, so I'm excited to see what you can come up with.

Didn't @Rukaio_Alter (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40087) do that in one of his stories for the writing contest? Could've sworn that he did...
Yeah, I was thinking that too.

ETA: The plot twist entry. I think.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on January 01, 2016, 07:25:19 PM
Now that you mention it...  :D

As I said: often done in a comedic way.  ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: eclipse on January 01, 2016, 07:35:55 PM
2. Must contain a big, mythical (as in doesn't exist as far as we know and not as in has to be from a mythology) creature. ? The Mighty beasts have broke the fourth wall!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor_Chill on January 01, 2016, 07:46:31 PM
Meh. I might join this month. Probably not, but good luck to everyone else!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 01, 2016, 08:14:53 PM
2. Must contain a big, mythical (as in doesn't exist as far as we know and not as in has to be from a mythology) creature. ? The Mighty beasts have broke the fourth wall!
Fixed it!

OK, so now you know which theme I thought was quite hard...
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: SugoiMe on January 01, 2016, 08:28:17 PM
2. Must contain a big, mythical (as in doesn't exist as far as we know and not as in has to be from a mythology) creature. ? The Mighty beasts have broke the fourth wall!
Fixed it!

OK, so now you know which theme I thought was quite hard...

Was actually considering adding a talking mythical beast who would break the fourth wall. Now I have to resort to using an eccentric sidekick character and her more responsible friend.  ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 01, 2016, 08:31:21 PM
This is maybe the hardest topic I've seen since I started. 

Hmmmmmm.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 01, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
Hahah, kudos to Xiagan and ScarletBea for continuing to come up with challenging themes. I had no idea what I was going to write for "Young Love" last month and have absolutely no idea how I'll write a story about Breaking the Fourth Wall, but I'm excited to do so. :0
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 01, 2016, 09:52:51 PM
Hah. Interesting. I already have two viable ideas just from reading the topic.
It's a good one.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ryanmcgowan on January 01, 2016, 10:07:48 PM
Wow, where to even start... certainly a difficult challenge this month

I'm struggling with the concept I think, did my Sci-Fi entry from last January 'break the fourth wall' or is that kind of "foot-noting to the reader" something different?

Edit: Hang on, I think I get it.  The characters have to be aware their in a work of fiction, right?

Edit: No, wait! can it be the writer addressing the reader directly, outside of the story?
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 01, 2016, 11:46:08 PM
No not the writer addressing the public. That's common place enough and doesn't have to break the fiction.
Here the characters need to reveal they're aware of their real status.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: AshKB on January 02, 2016, 12:17:27 AM
To quote TVTropes:

Quote
Breaking the fourth wall is when a character acknowledges their fictionality, by either indirectly or directly addressing the audience. Alternatively, they may interact with their creator (the author of the book, the director of the movie, the artist of the comic book, etc.). This is more akin to breaking one of the walls of the set, but the existence of a director implies the existence of an audience, so it's still indirectly Breaking The Fourth Wall.

House of Cards, both versions, does this a lot. But TVTropes has a page devoted to written examples, which I think might help more.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 02, 2016, 12:48:20 AM
I've got the core of an idea. Don't know how well it qualifies, but meh. I'll try to make it fun.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ryanmcgowan on January 02, 2016, 01:14:38 AM
From watching some 'house of cards' examples on YouTube, the character has to address the audience/reader, but doesn't have to self identify as being in a work of fiction? 
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 02, 2016, 01:38:32 AM
From watching some 'house of cards' examples on YouTube, the character has to address the audience/reader, but doesn't have to self identify as being in a work of fiction?

Yes. I think we will need to explore a number of ways to break the wall.
> Character is aware of being fiction
> Character addresses audience with no awareness this is unusual
And I think there are a whole bunch of other possibilities
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 02, 2016, 01:48:03 AM
oh, am i going to have fun with this one.

oh man oh man oh man!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: AshKB on January 02, 2016, 02:06:46 AM
TVTropes has a sliding scale of fourth wall-ness here (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlidingScaleOfFourthWallHardness), which also includes examples and links to pages with more examples.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 02, 2016, 02:11:36 AM
From watching some 'house of cards' examples on YouTube, the character has to address the audience/reader, but doesn't have to self identify as being in a work of fiction?

If you address the audience, the character's awareness of its fictionality would be implied.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on January 02, 2016, 03:11:20 AM
Here's some more examples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLAaUvsKljc
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Rukaio_Alter on January 02, 2016, 05:41:34 AM
*rubs hands with anticipation*

Oh, this is going to be a good month for me...
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ryanmcgowan on January 02, 2016, 07:34:01 AM
Ok, I think I get it, thanks for the pointers everyone  :)

I have an idea, but it's pretty dark...
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Henry Dale on January 02, 2016, 09:12:21 AM
I have a vague idea. Screw self-awareness, I'm going for something from Belgian literature.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 02, 2016, 10:07:00 AM
Shit! Let's all not vote for Rukaio, he's planning something good to become Emperor of the contest!

Belgian literature sounds.... Interesting?
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Henry Dale on January 02, 2016, 10:54:10 AM
Belgian literature sounds.... Interesting?

Yes.
Cuz we're weird in everything we do.  :D

Not spoiling it tho >.>
Will post somewhere along next week.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: SJBudd on January 02, 2016, 11:33:41 AM
This is going to be hard!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 02, 2016, 03:38:06 PM
heh.

i just clicked 'like' on rukaio's post.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 02, 2016, 04:12:36 PM
We have likes here now!!
Title: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on January 02, 2016, 04:18:16 PM
I wondered when you'd notice it. ;)

You have to thank Arry for it. :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on January 03, 2016, 02:48:44 AM
Hmm. This will be good.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr.J on January 03, 2016, 04:49:26 PM
I have an awesome idea. Not only is it fourth-wall breaking it's got two layers of fourth-wall, and it is as fantasy as ale and breast armour. I think...
I worry it's too big for 1500 words though.

I hope no one else has thought of the same concept *glances at @Nora (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40237) nervously*
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 03, 2016, 10:30:20 PM
Why worry about me? I've got an idea so far but it's nothing fantastic yet.
Even if we have the same idea, the treatment would differ anyway right?
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr.J on January 03, 2016, 11:33:20 PM
Yea true, and yours would be much better anyway ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ryanmcgowan on January 04, 2016, 08:55:41 PM
I'm interested to see how everyone approached things this month, expecting a really varied bunch of entries
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 04, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
was originally going to do a zombie story, but today on my run a dragon story reached out and grabbed me by the chin.  it won't let go.

fourth-wall dragons, here we come!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 04, 2016, 10:34:53 PM
Yea true, and yours would be much better anyway ;)

Bah, that's far from a given! For the moment I have no plot idea, and I'm not even sure if I'll enter this month. I kind of want to focus on my WIP and my writing group.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: wakarimasen on January 06, 2016, 02:13:50 PM
Nothing substantial for ages then first in.
I've always prided my self on my inconsistency. That way I don't have to keep apologising about it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 06, 2016, 02:58:56 PM
Nothing substantial for ages then first in.
I've always prided my self on my inconsistency. That way I don't have to keep apologising about it.
Even if you didn't like it, you wouldn't have to apologise :) this is supposed to be fun, not a chore hehe
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 06, 2016, 04:23:16 PM
Nothing substantial for ages then first in.
I've always prided my self on my inconsistency. That way I don't have to keep apologising about it.

Nice story, @wakarimasen (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40242)! I dig it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 06, 2016, 04:58:45 PM
Nothing substantial for ages then first in.
I've always prided my self on my inconsistency. That way I don't have to keep apologising about it.

Nice story, @wakarimasen (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40242)! I dig it.
Hey, no spoilers!  ;) ;D


I have two ideas for this and no good way of choosing between them.  :-\
If I have time, I will write them both. But then I probably won't be able to decide which one to post.  ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Henry Dale on January 06, 2016, 07:04:03 PM
Lack of confidence means I haven't started yet...

Plot: Check!  :D
Concept: Check!  :D
Written story: nope   :-\

I also miss my traditional 6 January cake with a bean  :P
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 06, 2016, 07:07:09 PM
I also miss my traditional 6 January cake with a bean  :P
Oh, you can still have that? Apparently due to 'health and safety' the traditional portuguese cake can't have the bean anymore (choking hazzard ::))
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Henry Dale on January 06, 2016, 07:18:51 PM
I also miss my traditional 6 January cake with a bean  :P
Oh, you can still have that? Apparently due to 'health and safety' the traditional portuguese cake can't have the bean anymore (choking hazzard ::))
That sounds silly, it's a bean  :o
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr.J on January 07, 2016, 12:55:51 AM
I also miss my traditional 6 January cake with a bean  :P
Oh, you can still have that? Apparently due to 'health and safety' the traditional portuguese cake can't have the bean anymore (choking hazzard ::))
Pretty much all health and safety stories are made up by the press. Not saying it definitely is in this case, but I suspect so.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: SJBudd on January 07, 2016, 08:57:17 PM
Ok I think I've got something but am still slightly confused over what is the breaking of the fourth wall  :o
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor_Chill on January 08, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
So I kinda have a Grayson short lined out, and I know first person works well with this topic, but I'm just not feeling it specifically (Breaking the 4th Wall) with this character. Ugh.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 08, 2016, 07:56:50 PM
So I kinda have a Grayson short lined out, and I know first person works well with this topic, but I'm just not feeling it specifically (Breaking the 4th Wall) with this character. Ugh.

you can do it, man.  we need us some more grayson!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: eclipse on January 08, 2016, 09:17:40 PM
When you say Grayson I think of Robin from DC .....
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 08, 2016, 09:48:33 PM
he's chill's badass, hard-boiled character that says stuff like "i needed an aim for my working arrow".
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 08, 2016, 09:52:28 PM
Mmmh... I honestly think I'll pass on this month. The topic doesn't interest me that much, and I'm seriously neglecting my WIP, so I'd like to finish at least a whole chapter this month, instead of the contest.

I'll still vote for sure  ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor_Chill on January 08, 2016, 10:06:30 PM
he's chill's badass, hard-boiled character that says stuff like "i needed an aim for my working arrow".

The guy you said was a lot like the Warden, Eclipse. And I'm extremely rusty with writing, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to knock prose like that out in the work, but I do have a fantastic idea now.

Whether it breaks the 4th wall is still up for debate though...

Quick question: Would Jorg, for instance, recounting to us that he's writing all this down count? Likewise, research makes it seem like the simple use of "you" might count. Or does it need to be a bit more extreme?
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 08, 2016, 10:08:35 PM
Psst, @Nora (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40237). If I manage to write both of my ideas into finished stories, you can enter the contest with one of them. I just want one vote in return.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 08, 2016, 10:09:49 PM
Psst, @Nora (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40237). If I manage to write both of my ideas into finished stories, you can enter the contest with one of them. I just want one vote in return.  ;) ;D

As a writer in my own right in these contests, I find this offer mildly insulting...  :P

I can give you my bank account details though, if you really want to secure a vote  ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 08, 2016, 10:14:32 PM
Psst, @Nora (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40237). If I manage to write both of my ideas into finished stories, you can enter the contest with one of them. I just want one vote in return.  ;) ;D

As a writer in my own right in these contests, I find this offer mildly insulting...  :P

I can give you my bank account details though, if you really want to secure a vote  ;D
Hmm. I have to think about that.  ;D

The bribing intensifies.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor_Chill on January 10, 2016, 03:56:16 AM
Had to take my mind off some things, so it's finished. Sitting at just under 1.5K. Needed about another 500 words to really flesh the story out but whatever. Gonna let it sit till tomorrow, then run edits.

I'm more excited that it's the first thing I've written in months! ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: SJBudd on January 10, 2016, 11:53:07 AM
Yeah Grayson! Haven't heard from him in months  :) :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 10, 2016, 12:17:05 PM
Yeah Grayson! Haven't heard from him in months  :) :)

Haven't seen you for month as well!!

Also, might submit something in the end, though I'll wrap it up fast, keep it short, and make it experimental.  :-\
You guys will have to bear with me trying things new to me but boring to everyone else!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on January 10, 2016, 01:19:27 PM
Put 400 words into this one so far. Fun topic, but I hope I'm doing it right.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 10, 2016, 01:34:40 PM
Got started this morning. It's taking its own unexpected path.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor_Chill on January 10, 2016, 10:17:17 PM
Just watched a Polish documentary (fun way to spend a Sunday afternoon) and got some world-building ideas, among others things. Guess I'm going to be fleshing out this short some more.

Been meaning to actually be productive and write a collection of short stories for self-publication. This might be the springboard I needed. ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on January 11, 2016, 04:56:15 AM
Rough draft complete! I should be able to post tomorrow. I think I broke the hell out of the fourth wall. Keywords - I think.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 11, 2016, 01:25:00 PM
Posted! Please, someone read it and PM me. I'm desperate to giggle.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 11, 2016, 02:35:15 PM
I want to giggle too but I don't have time!!!!
Later - I need to reply to you on other things too hehe
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 11, 2016, 03:18:48 PM
i've only read the first chunk, but i'd like to point out, my favorite joke of all time?

"a skeleton walks into a bar and orders a beer and a mop."
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 11, 2016, 03:51:54 PM
i've only read the first chunk, but i'd like to point out, my favorite joke of all time?

"a skeleton walks into a bar and orders a beer and a mop."

Okay, that made me giggle.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 11, 2016, 03:56:44 PM
i've only read the first chunk, but i'd like to point out, my favorite joke of all time?

"a skeleton walks into a bar and orders a beer and a mop."

Okay, that made me giggle.

my second favorite joke?

me:  i've got a great joke.  it's amazing.
you:  okay!  let's hear it.
me:  it's a "knock, knock" joke, okay?  you start.
you:  yeah, okay.  knock, knock!
me:  who's there?
you: ...

Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 11, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
i've only read the first chunk, but i'd like to point out, my favorite joke of all time?

"a skeleton walks into a bar and orders a beer and a mop."

Okay, that made me giggle.

my second favorite joke?

me:  i've got a great joke.  it's amazing.
you:  okay!  let's hear it.
me:  it's a "knock, knock" joke, okay?  you start.
you:  yeah, okay.  knock, knock!
me:  who's there?
you: ...

Took me a second.  ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 11, 2016, 06:46:43 PM
I still don't get it :-[

Oh wait - now I get it! When I paid attention to the 'me' and 'you' hehe
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on January 12, 2016, 03:12:20 AM
I'm in. That was a fun topic.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on January 12, 2016, 08:22:56 PM
Finished @Jmack (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=37094) 's choose your own adventure. Mad props! That was fun. Makes me want to go back to when I was 10 and code it in BASIC with GOTO statements.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 12, 2016, 08:55:20 PM
Finished @Jmack (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=37094) 's choose your own adventure. Mad props! That was fun. Makes me want to go back to when I was 10 and code it in BASIC with GOTO statements.

You know you want to.
And add pictures.
 8)

But not sure how you get to the end. Or to #7.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr.J on January 12, 2016, 09:44:22 PM
Well I was mildly pleased with my entry (not edited yet), until I saw Jmack's obviously going to win choose your own adventure story :P

Early congrats btw it was very amusing.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 12, 2016, 09:52:55 PM
Well I was mildly pleased with my entry (not edited yet), until I saw Jmack's obviously going to win choose your own adventure story :P

Early congrats btw it was very amusing.

Yeah it's a bit of a damper ain't it?
That's why I never read others before I'm done, but now with the hype so high, it feels like Id be filling in for second place at best
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 12, 2016, 11:07:21 PM
Well I was mildly pleased with my entry (not edited yet), until I saw Jmack's obviously going to win choose your own adventure story :P

Early congrats btw it was very amusing.

Yeah it's a bit of a damper ain't it?
That's why I never read others before I'm done, but now with the hype so high, it feels like Id be filling in for second place at best

pishaw.  that's just because you guys haven't read mine yet.  i should have it ship-shape in another day or two.

oh yeah -- once i post it, that proverbial gauntlet will be flung to the ground, yo!  much hilarity will most definitely ensue.  blasting fireworks.  even more tea parties than normal.  maybe even a gorilla birth or two.  it'll be raucous.  righteously raucous, indeed.


p.s.  got carried away there.  i've gone and forgotten what i was originally going on about.  oh yeah!  my entry!  it's funny!  you guys should read it!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on January 13, 2016, 12:06:47 AM

my second favorite joke?

me:  i've got a great joke.  it's amazing.
you:  okay!  let's hear it.
me:  it's a "knock, knock" joke, okay?  you start.
you:  yeah, okay.  knock, knock!
me:  who's there?
you: ...

Took me a second.  ;D

I laughed, but made the  Tygrands groan - oh you so let me down dude. :(
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 13, 2016, 12:11:16 AM
i've only read the first chunk, but i'd like to point out, my favorite joke of all time?

"a skeleton walks into a bar and orders a beer and a mop."

Okay, that made me giggle.


my second favorite joke?

me:  i've got a great joke.  it's amazing.
you:  okay!  let's hear it.
me:  it's a "knock, knock" joke, okay?  you start.
you:  yeah, okay.  knock, knock!
me:  who's there?
you: ...

Took me a second.  ;D

Made my grands groan - oh you so let me down dude. :(

oh man.  you should hear my dad jokes.  you'd never speak to me again...
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 13, 2016, 06:39:39 AM
Well I was mildly pleased with my entry (not edited yet), until I saw Jmack's obviously going to win choose your own adventure story :P

Early congrats btw it was very amusing.

Yeah it's a bit of a damper ain't it?
That's why I never read others before I'm done, but now with the hype so high, it feels like Id be filling in for second place at best

pishaw.  that's just because you guys haven't read mine yet.  i should have it ship-shape in another day or two.

oh yeah -- once i post it, that proverbial gauntlet will be flung to the ground, yo!  much hilarity will most definitely ensue.  blasting fireworks.  even more tea parties than normal.  maybe even a gorilla birth or two.  it'll be raucous.  righteously raucous, indeed.


p.s.  got carried away there.  i've gone and forgotten what i was originally going on about.  oh yeah!  my entry!  it's funny!  you guys should read it!

I've always wondered why you don't use capital letters after your dots. Mechanical reason? Or just trying for the unconventinal and eye-catching?  :P
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 13, 2016, 08:02:21 AM
Well I was mildly pleased with my entry (not edited yet), until I saw Jmack's obviously going to win choose your own adventure story :P

Early congrats btw it was very amusing.

Yeah it's a bit of a damper ain't it?
That's why I never read others before I'm done, but now with the hype so high, it feels like Id be filling in for second place at best
Please please please don't think that!!!!
There are tastes for every type of story, and you can't guess people's motivations when voting :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 13, 2016, 09:14:58 AM
Well I was mildly pleased with my entry (not edited yet), until I saw Jmack's obviously going to win choose your own adventure story :P

Early congrats btw it was very amusing.

Yeah it's a bit of a damper ain't it?
That's why I never read others before I'm done, but now with the hype so high, it feels like Id be filling in for second place at best
Please please please don't think that!!!!
There are tastes for every type of story, and you can't guess people's motivations when voting :)
But Jmack's stories are always good, and now so many people have said it was great. So, I don't know... At least I have lost what little confidence I had. (My two story ideas aren't that good anyway.)

Hmm. I might not participate this month...

but, then again, I still might. Screw confidence.  ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 13, 2016, 10:43:33 AM
Screw every reason not to write!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: wakarimasen on January 13, 2016, 11:11:35 AM
good entries shouldn't put you off... they should inspire you to greater heights.

You don't get better at chess by playing people you can beat.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr.J on January 13, 2016, 11:40:55 AM
But I want to win waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

*stamps feet*

*storms out of room*

I've posted mine now. :D

Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 13, 2016, 12:22:36 PM
You don't get better at chess by playing people you can beat.
Yes, but beating someone you can beat is easier than getting better.  ;D


But seriously, I'm not that disheartened. Well, not more than usually.  ;)   (Did I say "seriously"?  ??? )
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on January 13, 2016, 03:13:51 PM
good entries shouldn't put you off... they should inspire you to greater heights.

You don't get better at chess by playing people you can beat.

BRAVO!

https://media3.giphy.com/media/4wycNsucv3ofC/200.gif
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 13, 2016, 03:38:46 PM
good entries shouldn't put you off... they should inspire you to greater heights.

You don't get better at chess by playing people you can beat.

BRAVO!

https://media3.giphy.com/media/4wycNsucv3ofC/200.gif

i say this waaaaay too often, but man, i love you guys!


I've always wondered why you don't use capital letters after your dots. Mechanical reason? Or just trying for the unconventinal and eye-catching?  :P

heh.  i dunno about eye-catching.  ridiculed for being a 12 year-old, maybe.  it's just a habit/style i picked up when i was writing for the web back when being a "webmaster" was cool.

funny enough, it's helped friends catch spam emails from me, too.  if they get an email from me with capital letters?  they know it's spam.  i even had friends alert me to a fake facebook post from a spammy app one time.    "what?!?  there are capital letters in that post?!?  imposter!!  get chris on the horn, stat!"

the worst thing about it, for sure, is changing the stupid auto-correct settings on every device i ever type on.  bleagh.  it's a lot of work to maintain style.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: wakarimasen on January 14, 2016, 11:58:57 AM
@m3mnoch (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40419)

I have a similar hangover. I have an email signature, which is my name (God forbid I tell any of you that though) in lowercase preceded by an obviously erroneous full stop. Let's say my name is bob for instance.
you know it's from me when it ends like this,
.bob

(also a nod to dot syntax in programming -nerdy nerdy nerd nerd)  :D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 14, 2016, 12:21:20 PM
@m3mnoch (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40419)

I have a similar hangover. I have an email signature, which is my name (God forbid I tell any of you that though) in lowercase preceded by an obviously erroneous full stop. Let's say my name is bob for instance.
you know it's from me when it ends like this,
.bob

(also a nod to dot syntax in programming -nerdy nerdy nerd nerd)  :D

And .you won't tell us .your .name because... We'd tease .you mercilessly?  We'd toilet paper .your house? We'd charge porn to .your credit card? (Actually, that would only be @Nighteyes (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=272))
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 14, 2016, 12:23:26 PM
I know but I'm not telling 8)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 14, 2016, 01:59:19 PM
For this month I'm thinking of taking things a bit further and do a reading of my story, since it's an inviting first person tale.
Do an audio-short-story. I even started the recording.

And man, I don't mind my voice but I SO HATE MY ACCENT, it's terrible.

Spent the day asking my colleagues and none seem to think anything about my accent at all. neither cute nor bad or anything really. But when I hear myself, I wonder how they can stand me.  :(

So now I'm not sure I'll do it, out of pure embarrassment!

I'm only telling you guys in case you want to push me into doing it!  :P  :-[
Seriously I'm on the fence here. Just realise how much of an art it is. I speak WAY too fast to be a proper reader voice.
Title: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on January 14, 2016, 02:19:17 PM
I'm way too fast, too. And probably even more embarrassed about my accent :P, so kudos to you if you (a non native speaker) are brave enough to do this. :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 14, 2016, 02:33:31 PM
For this month I'm thinking of taking things a bit further and do a reading of my story, since it's an inviting first person tale.
Do an audio-short-story. I even started the recording.
This is in addition to posting it in written form here, right? You don't mean that your submission is audio only?
If that was the case, I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to vote for it, I completely lose the story if I'm hearing it...

And I think everybody thinks their voice is weird when we hear it 'outside'.
It's quite different to what we hear when we speak, so that's normal - regardless of being a native speaker or not...
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 14, 2016, 02:46:24 PM
For this month I'm thinking of taking things a bit further and do a reading of my story, since it's an inviting first person tale.
Do an audio-short-story. I even started the recording.
This is in addition to posting it in written form here, right? You don't mean that your submission is audio only?
If that was the case, I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to vote for it, I completely lose the story if I'm hearing it...

And I think everybody thinks their voice is weird when we hear it 'outside'.
It's quite different to what we hear when we speak, so that's normal - regardless of being a native speaker or not...

No, no, of course I'd submit it in written form as well! I wouldn't leave Xiagan with the doubt of the amount of words I'd be blabbering.
You could also read the text at the same time it's spoken, which is apparently the best way to learn (read while it's read), so I guess you'd remember my story xtra well at the time of voting :p

@xiagan (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1148) : yes, it's so weird isn't it? I speak just fine in my own opinion, and in daily life it doesn't matter (except to older people who do ask me to slow down). But when you record it, then the pace feels completely wrong, compared to professional audio books. They wait way longer after each dot. Also, even though I know exactly what inflection I want, it's harder than I thought to make it right.

Bea, I assure you I have no issue with the timbre of my voice, but with my accent only. I dislike french accent in general, and mine is a weird mix. People often struggle to place it in OZ. But it's what disturbs me. If the recording was in french, then I'd be non plussed!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Henry Dale on January 14, 2016, 02:47:36 PM
For this month I'm thinking of taking things a bit further and do a reading of my story, since it's an inviting first person tale.
Do an audio-short-story. I even started the recording.

And man, I don't mind my voice but I SO HATE MY ACCENT, it's terrible.

Spent the day asking my colleagues and none seem to think anything about my accent at all. neither cute nor bad or anything really. But when I hear myself, I wonder how they can stand me.  :(

So now I'm not sure I'll do it, out of pure embarrassment!

I'm only telling you guys in case you want to push me into doing it!  :P  :-[
Seriously I'm on the fence here. Just realise how much of an art it is. I speak WAY too fast to be a proper reader voice.
Most people hate to hear their own voice, even when they have a cool voice. (Retelling from my psychology courses somewhere)
You should just go for it, it'd be awesome to hear you do character voices.  :D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 14, 2016, 03:00:39 PM
For this month I'm thinking of taking things a bit further and do a reading of my story, since it's an inviting first person tale.
Do an audio-short-story. I even started the recording.

And man, I don't mind my voice but I SO HATE MY ACCENT, it's terrible.

Spent the day asking my colleagues and none seem to think anything about my accent at all. neither cute nor bad or anything really. But when I hear myself, I wonder how they can stand me.  :(

So now I'm not sure I'll do it, out of pure embarrassment!

I'm only telling you guys in case you want to push me into doing it!  :P  :-[
Seriously I'm on the fence here. Just realise how much of an art it is. I speak WAY too fast to be a proper reader voice.
Most people hate to hear their own voice, even when they have a cool voice. (Retelling from my psychology courses somewhere)
You should just go for it, it'd be awesome to hear you do character voices.  :D

No no, my voice is fine!! It's my bloody accent!!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 14, 2016, 03:09:30 PM
No no, my voice is fine!! It's my bloody accent!!
I'm sure that's fine too ;)

When speaking english, I've been told I have: german, russian, and scandinavian accent. Never portuguese ::)
Henry, what did you think?

I just think I have *my* accent, hehe
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 14, 2016, 03:11:42 PM
No no, my voice is fine!! It's my bloody accent!!
I'm sure that's fine too ;)

When speaking english, I've been told I have: german, russian, and scandinavian accent. Never portuguese ::)
Henry, what did you think?

I just think I have *my* accent, hehe

As it is, custies always ask me where I'm from, and when they guess wrong I mostly get : south african, israel, eastern european, swedish or norwegian, german or italian or spanish.
I think it mostly reflects how poorly traveled many australians are  ;D

But you're right Bea, accents can become quite personal as you get accustomed to different ones and practice.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Henry Dale on January 14, 2016, 03:14:51 PM
No no, my voice is fine!! It's my bloody accent!!
I'm sure that's fine too ;)

When speaking english, I've been told I have: german, russian, and scandinavian accent. Never portuguese ::)
Henry, what did you think?

I just think I have *my* accent, hehe

I thought southern european. Eg spain, italy and slovenia.

Reading Nora's stuff, she is an offworld creature that speaks in tongues  ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Doctor_Chill on January 14, 2016, 03:20:45 PM
No no, my voice is fine!! It's my bloody accent!!
I'm sure that's fine too ;)

When speaking english, I've been told I have: german, russian, and scandinavian accent. Never portuguese ::)
Henry, what did you think?

I just think I have *my* accent, hehe

I thought southern european. Eg spain, italy and slovenia.

Reading Nora's stuff, she is an offworld creature that speaks in tongues  ;)

Soooo, Pentecostal? ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 14, 2016, 03:22:15 PM
@m3mnoch (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40419)

I have a similar hangover. I have an email signature, which is my name (God forbid I tell any of you that though) in lowercase preceded by an obviously erroneous full stop. Let's say my name is bob for instance.
you know it's from me when it ends like this,
.bob

(also a nod to dot syntax in programming -nerdy nerdy nerd nerd)  :D

oh, i'm totally gonna find it now.

Code: [Select]

$: cat wakarimasen | grep -E '\..' | sed -e 's/.*\(\..*\)$/\1/' | sed -e 's/\.//' | awk '{print $1;}'


ha!  programmer nerd humor!


No no, my voice is fine!! It's my bloody accent!!
I'm sure that's fine too ;)

When speaking english, I've been told I have: german, russian, and scandinavian accent. Never portuguese ::)
Henry, what did you think?

I just think I have *my* accent, hehe

As it is, custies always ask me where I'm from, and when they guess wrong I mostly get : south african, israel, eastern european, swedish or norwegian, german or italian or spanish.
I think it mostly reflects how poorly traveled many australians are  ;D

But you're right Bea, accents can become quite personal as you get accustomed to different ones and practice.

oh goodness.  speaking as an american male who has a thing for mysterious female accents...  uh...  as long as you don't picture me loosening my collar and turning up the air conditioner -- go for it!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 14, 2016, 06:12:55 PM
speaking of stories -- mine's officially in!

even reading it now, i still giggle in places.  this was a super-fun month to write.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on January 15, 2016, 01:24:13 AM

Go for it, @Nora (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40237) it would be a good experiment.  Agree always need a written one in any case as it is harder to take it all in when  just read. This is why I have often trouble writing a review of an audible book because of needing to go back and find something and re-listen, so much easier to flip pages.

Don't worry about accents, Henry's right about hearing yourself.  I am still  broad Somerset when I hear myself, mixed up with Oz idiom. It's terrible.   ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: wakarimasen on January 15, 2016, 03:36:09 PM
For those familiar with my new foible about having a character's name in the opening line of a short story, you'll be pleased to know Joe Abercrombie doesn't agree with me - he just tweeted this pic of him editing page proofs from his forthcoming short story collection.

https://twitter.com/LordGrimdark/status/688020416707870721

Dammit Joe! Stop undermining me... we've talked about this...
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on January 15, 2016, 03:44:10 PM
For those familiar with my new foible about having a character's name in the opening line of a short story, you'll be pleased to know Joe Abercrombie doesn't agree with me - he just tweeted this pic of him editing page proofs from his forthcoming short story collection.

https://twitter.com/LordGrimdark/status/688020416707870721 (https://twitter.com/LordGrimdark/status/688020416707870721)

Dammit Joe! Stop undermining me... we've talked about this...
I think in that case it's different because he's using a character who is already established in his other writing, rather than introducing a new one.  ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 15, 2016, 04:39:41 PM
For those familiar with my new foible about having a character's name in the opening line of a short story, you'll be pleased to know Joe Abercrombie doesn't agree with me - he just tweeted this pic of him editing page proofs from his forthcoming short story collection.

https://twitter.com/LordGrimdark/status/688020416707870721 (https://twitter.com/LordGrimdark/status/688020416707870721)

Dammit Joe! Stop undermining me... we've talked about this...
I think in that case it's different because he's using a character who is already established in his other writing, rather than introducing a new one.  ;)

heh.  i'll apologize about last month's story then.

but, at least this month i did it right!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nighteyes on January 15, 2016, 04:47:25 PM
@m3mnoch (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40419)

I have a similar hangover. I have an email signature, which is my name (God forbid I tell any of you that though) in lowercase preceded by an obviously erroneous full stop. Let's say my name is bob for instance.
you know it's from me when it ends like this,
.bob

(also a nod to dot syntax in programming -nerdy nerdy nerd nerd)  :D

And .you won't tell us .your .name because... We'd tease .you mercilessly?  We'd toilet paper .your house? We'd charge porn to .your credit card? (Actually, that would only be @Nighteyes (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=272))

Already doing it.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on January 16, 2016, 12:13:47 AM
For those familiar with my new foible about having a character's name in the opening line of a short story, you'll be pleased to know Joe Abercrombie doesn't agree with me - he just tweeted this pic of him editing page proofs from his forthcoming short story collection.

https://twitter.com/LordGrimdark/status/688020416707870721

Dammit Joe! Stop undermining me... we've talked about this...
You have sent down a cruel enchantment on me, Waka, every single book I look at now, I check the first sentence for names. I have even gone back to Mistborn Trilogy and found Name starts second sentence in first two, first sentence third book starts with "Name........."

I was just managd to  to control myself before starting on the sixteen Dresden Files.  Take the compulsion spell away, I cannot live like this, no more I beg.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 17, 2016, 07:55:08 AM
Just posted mine. This was pretty funny. Was actually pretty quick too, I thought it was easier than Young Love  :o
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 17, 2016, 03:34:54 PM
Just posted mine. This was pretty funny. Was actually pretty quick too, I thought it was easier than Young Love  :o

agreed.  WAAAAAY easier than young love.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 17, 2016, 03:35:58 PM
Just posted mine. This was pretty funny. Was actually pretty quick too, I thought it was easier than Young Love  :o

agreed.  WAAAAAY easier than young love.

Maybe the easiest month in the 15 I've posted. Once you say it's open season on logic...  ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 17, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
See???
I'll never say what's easy and what's not ever again ::)
I thought Young Love would be easy and this one hard, everybody saying the opposite ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 17, 2016, 10:18:48 PM
See???
I'll never say what's easy and what's not ever again ::)
I thought Young Love would be easy and this one hard, everybody saying the opposite ;D

I think it's because none of us are romance writers, look at how we bitch about love in SFF stories in the writer section.
But now this... It only requires some humor.  ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 17, 2016, 10:23:42 PM
I guess I never thought that 'breaking the 4th wall' would be achieved by humour... I was imagining it more like a Matrix-type of story, very convoluted and intermingling worlds...
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 17, 2016, 10:52:58 PM
Well that's what I'm going back to.

I'm abandoning the story I had planned on reading. It was a lighter version of a longer short story I want to write, and I actually don't want to publish it here or make it so funny as to have it break the fourth wall.
It was great to expend on it, but now I'm back work on my more serious "Matrix type" work, just like you though it'd imply.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Rukaio_Alter on January 17, 2016, 11:05:24 PM
I guess I never thought that 'breaking the 4th wall' would be achieved by humour... I was imagining it more like a Matrix-type of story, very convoluted and intermingling worlds...
Heh. I guess you missed my April Plot Twist entry. I get the feeling that might have been one of the main reasons for all the comedic stories we've had so far.

If it's any consolation though, I'm having more trouble with this one than I did with Young Love. Mainly because it's difficult to come up with a premise that's interesting enough to win without feeling derivative of said April story. Plus getting the balance right is difficult with 4th wall humour. Go too far and it can easily become obnoxious. I've had a number of ideas that were funny in theory but didn't really work when written up.

Still, I think I've got a solid idea working at the moment. Especially since I'm apparently going to need to pull out all the stops to beat Jmack's entry.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 17, 2016, 11:15:45 PM
Damn, am I really goign to be the only one with a boring as serious story? ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on January 17, 2016, 11:20:14 PM
I guess I never thought that 'breaking the 4th wall' would be achieved by humour... I was imagining it more like a Matrix-type of story, very convoluted and intermingling worlds...
Heh. I guess you missed my April Plot Twist entry. I get the feeling that might have been one of the main reasons for all the comedic stories we've had so far.

If it's any consolation though, I'm having more trouble with this one than I did with Young Love. Mainly because it's difficult to come up with a premise that's interesting enough to win without feeling derivative of said April story. Plus getting the balance right is difficult with 4th wall humour. Go too far and it can easily become obnoxious. I've had a number of ideas that were funny in theory but didn't really work when written up.

Still, I think I've got a solid idea working at the moment. Especially since I'm apparently going to need to pull out all the stops to beat Jmack's entry.
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/37646700.jpg)


 ;D


Damn, am I really goign to be the only one with a boring as serious story? ::)
The idea we have is a serious one. Not sure if we'll write it though.  :-\
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 17, 2016, 11:30:11 PM
Damn, am I really goign to be the only one with a boring as serious story? ::)
The idea we have is a serious one. Not sure if we'll write it though.  :-\

Please, please, please, do it, I need you guys!!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on January 17, 2016, 11:34:02 PM
Damn, am I really goign to be the only one with a boring as serious story? ::)
The idea we have is a serious one. Not sure if we'll write it though.  :-\

Please, please, please, do it, I need you guys!!
Well probably give it a try at least, but everything sucks at the moment!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Rukaio_Alter on January 17, 2016, 11:41:17 PM
I guess I never thought that 'breaking the 4th wall' would be achieved by humour... I was imagining it more like a Matrix-type of story, very convoluted and intermingling worlds...
Heh. I guess you missed my April Plot Twist entry. I get the feeling that might have been one of the main reasons for all the comedic stories we've had so far.

If it's any consolation though, I'm having more trouble with this one than I did with Young Love. Mainly because it's difficult to come up with a premise that's interesting enough to win without feeling derivative of said April story. Plus getting the balance right is difficult with 4th wall humour. Go too far and it can easily become obnoxious. I've had a number of ideas that were funny in theory but didn't really work when written up.

Still, I think I've got a solid idea working at the moment. Especially since I'm apparently going to need to pull out all the stops to beat Jmack's entry.
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/37646700.jpg)


 ;D
I would tell you it's insignificant compared to the size of my ego.

Damn, am I really goign to be the only one with a boring as serious story? ::)
There are some fairly serious stories already posted, so don't worry about that.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr.J on January 18, 2016, 12:27:09 AM
Don't worry mine isn't funny, or even that good in fact. :D

Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 18, 2016, 12:36:54 AM
Ah we'll see heh? Mine isn't funny either, but it's embedded with heavy fan service, for those who often vote for me and will know the stories I wrote.

Others will struggle to understand what I tried to do. All the newbies will miss one of the best line as well. I don't care, I just wanna have fun this month around.
There will also be an easter egg for french speakers. So mainly Henry I guess.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Henry Dale on January 18, 2016, 06:14:03 AM
Ah we'll see heh? Mine isn't funny either, but it's embedded with heavy fan service, for those who often vote for me and will know the stories I wrote.

Others will struggle to understand what I tried to do. All the newbies will miss one of the best line as well. I don't care, I just wanna have fun this month around.
There will also be an easter egg for french speakers. So mainly Henry I guess.
People could use a translation program or dictionary though? Unless it's really a french joke that can't just be translated?
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 18, 2016, 08:51:11 AM
I understand basic french, after all I studied it for many years, even if I haven't really used it in a long time ;)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: AshKB on January 18, 2016, 09:19:02 AM
I think I might have to skip this round :-( No real ideas (or at least, none that I feel comfortable writing), and the month is escaping me as far as concentration goes.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Henry Dale on January 18, 2016, 09:23:08 AM
I understand basic french, after all I studied it for many years, even if I haven't really used it in a long time ;)
Ah Bea. C'est mignon ça!
Alors on est trois francophones maintenant  :D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 18, 2016, 09:56:13 AM
I understand basic french, after all I studied it for many years, even if I haven't really used it in a long time ;)
Ah Bea. C'est mignon ça!
Alors on est trois francophones maintenant  :D
Je pense qu'il y a plus de trois? Peut-etre?

(drats, just like when I'm writing in portuguese or german, english keyboard doesn't have the right signs hehe)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on January 18, 2016, 10:58:32 AM
Jái appris le francais a l'école, mais je parle mal et lire lit ? juste un peu, assez pour les commentaires de notre amie  Nora peut-etre ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 18, 2016, 12:23:32 PM
Mmmh, sorry guys but I do believe my reference is fairly obtuse.

Might as well explain it here for those who don't care about trying to find by themselves :

The tribe of Shamans my MC has been chasing is called the Ceu'ki Save Shamans, which, in phonetic is Ceux qui savent, meaning "those who know". And the point of such a name is obvious in the story.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: wakarimasen on January 20, 2016, 04:32:41 PM
My French language ability neatly summarised in song form...
 [youtube]X5hrUGFhsXo[/youtube]
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nestat on January 22, 2016, 01:20:40 PM
That was a really good choice of theme, Xi. Has anyone mentioned The Princess Bride yet? That is one the greatest fantasy novels and is famous not only for breaking the fourth wall, but also for using it to dupe so many people into believing it was historical!

I've always prided my self on my inconsistency.

Surely you infrequently pride yourself on your inconsistency?
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on January 23, 2016, 02:44:45 AM
There are some wonderful stories coming out for this.Well done all. I wanted to try this, it is such a great theme and have started about four different efforts, but they are just rubbish so far and time creeping on.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 23, 2016, 03:00:15 AM
There are some wonderful stories coming out for this.Well done all. I wanted to try this, it is such a great theme and have started about four different efforts, but they are just rubbish so far and time creeping on.

Noooo, come on, do it! You still have time!! Your political puns were awesome, you should totally give it a try now, it's a great topic!!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on January 23, 2016, 03:39:25 AM
There are some wonderful stories coming out for this.Well done all. I wanted to try this, it is such a great theme and have started about four different efforts, but they are just rubbish so far and time creeping on.
Not sure if we'll finish ours either! Even if you don't get something done in time, at least you've tried, right?  :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 23, 2016, 03:46:15 AM
Lady_Ty is on a roll in the RPG section. Totally should get that momentum and try it  :P
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 23, 2016, 09:18:29 AM
There are some wonderful stories coming out for this.Well done all. I wanted to try this, it is such a great theme and have started about four different efforts, but they are just rubbish so far and time creeping on.
There's still time!
I haven't even started writing my rubbish.  ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Rukaio_Alter on January 24, 2016, 04:36:42 AM
Hey, would anybody be up for a sneak reading of my short story for this month? Normally I wouldn't offer this, but I'm a little bit worried about a particular story issue and I'd really like a second opinion before I post.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on January 24, 2016, 12:03:09 PM
Hey, would anybody be up for a sneak reading of my short story for this month? Normally I wouldn't offer this, but I'm a little bit worried about a particular story issue and I'd really like a second opinion before I post.

PM me, R. I'll read today in between sessions of snow shoveling.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 24, 2016, 12:47:58 PM
Hey, would anybody be up for a sneak reading of my short story for this month? Normally I wouldn't offer this, but I'm a little bit worried about a particular story issue and I'd really like a second opinion before I post.

You can PM me as well, I can read it on the train ride to work tomorrow.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 28, 2016, 08:24:00 AM
After the busy period we're back with a growing number of stories!
16 so far, and still 4 days left :D

Keep writing ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ArcaneArtsVelho on January 31, 2016, 01:13:54 PM
Finally finished my story. Still need to shrink it a little before posting. Hopefully the submission thread stays open long enough.  :)

I feel that my story came out quite silly (though I really don't know whether it is a good silly or a bad silly).  ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 31, 2016, 02:33:20 PM

I feel that my story came out quite silly (though I really don't know whether it is a good silly or a bad silly).  ::)

Haha, same thing here.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 31, 2016, 03:13:04 PM

I feel that my story came out quite silly (though I really don't know whether it is a good silly or a bad silly).  ::)

Haha, same thing here.

heh.  i suspect this will be a pretty silly month.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on January 31, 2016, 03:51:17 PM

I feel that my story came out quite silly (though I really don't know whether it is a good silly or a bad silly).  ::)

Haha, same thing here.

heh.  i suspect this will be a pretty silly month.


Indeed. Except for Fang-Gorillas. Those are quite serious.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr.J on January 31, 2016, 06:14:49 PM
Yea convinced mine and I think Nora's are the only serious ones... :(
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 31, 2016, 07:03:48 PM
Why the sad face? Some people really like serious, and they might vote for you! Being serious is not a handicap this month :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 31, 2016, 07:25:38 PM
Yeah, why so serious  ::)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr.J on January 31, 2016, 07:58:14 PM
Do you want to know how I got these scars?

A: Acne.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: SJBudd on January 31, 2016, 08:19:23 PM
So many entries can't wait to start reading them. Looking forward to next month's theme  :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 31, 2016, 10:18:27 PM
Anyone working on a story and hoping to submit at the last minute?
@Raptori (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=38840)? others?
(we already got AAV, he usually turns the lights out ;))

Let me know, or I'll lock the entries tomorrow morning (UK time).
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on January 31, 2016, 10:28:59 PM
So glad a little more time just noticed I had a " writer in the attached" ::)
darn phone using its ownwords. Managed to tidy up but word count may not be spot on. Thanks  @m3mnoch (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40419) phone charging in car good idea but not driving in thunderstorm.Power came back last night but just gone again .Tree branches often fall off gum trees on lines becos we still have mostly overhead cables not underground.Will be back as soon as I can. ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on January 31, 2016, 10:33:51 PM
Anyone working on a story and hoping to submit at the last minute?
@Raptori (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=38840)? others?
(we already got AAV, he usually turns the lights out ;) )

Let me know, or I'll lock the entries tomorrow morning (UK time).
Nope! Don't hold it up on our account.  :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on January 31, 2016, 10:37:00 PM
So glad a little more time just noticed I had a " writer in the attached" ::)
darn phone using its ownwords. Managed to tidy up but word count may not be spot on. Thanks  @m3mnoch (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40419) phone charging in car good idea but not driving in thunderstorm.Power came back last night but just gone again .Tree branches often fall off gum trees on lines becos we still have mostly overhead cables not underground.Will be back as soon as I can. ;D

Glad you still managed to put a sub in! Good luck with the storms, we'll see you soon!  ;D
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on February 01, 2016, 01:12:53 AM
Finally sorted, if anyone read mine earlier it has been edited many times and hope it makes you smile. Doing phone corrections was crazy mad and some very odd things crept in but I think I found them all. Whoever wrote a whole story on phone deserves special hardship commendations though think that was in this month's Young Love.
That was fun and glad there are plenty of entries.  Now I can settle down and read them .  Good luck everyone ;D

Hi there @Nerf (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=41035), thanks for coming to play, we love new writers joining here. How about dropping by the intro thread and telling us more about yourself so we can all get to meet you?

http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/introductions/say-hi-i'm-new-thread/
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on February 01, 2016, 09:53:19 AM
Ok, submission now locked - I'll do the voting thread in my lunch break in a couple of hours.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on February 01, 2016, 03:10:58 PM
i still haven't had time (other than, like, a quick 10 minutes to see if it was easy -- it's not) to fix my ebook generator after jmack obliterated it with his story this month.  everyone else's story looks great.  his comes out as a jumbled pile.

i suppose that's what he gets tho.  writing something different, cool, and fabulous.  *shakes fist*
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on February 01, 2016, 03:19:19 PM
He is gonna make Amazon reinvent the Kindle! Look at the bright side!
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: SJBudd on February 02, 2016, 06:56:46 PM
Just voted but it was so hard so many good entries this month loved the variance that some of them were really silly whilsts others were serious, was a fun read  :)
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: eclipse on March 02, 2016, 06:47:15 AM
Now that the voting's over can someone explain how Dr chill entry broke the forth wall? I enjoyed it but I think it went over my head.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on March 05, 2016, 11:48:35 PM
Now that the voting's over can someone explain how Dr chill entry broke the forth wall? I enjoyed it but I think it went over my head.

Only once as far as I could see and it was

Quote
That was said primarily to ease your worries, though, dear listener.

I presumed that was meant for the readers in general, as listeners to the story.But at the end it seemed as if directed to the client at the bar.
Title: Re: [Jan 2016] - Breaking the fourth wall - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on March 06, 2016, 04:38:33 PM
Now that the voting's over can someone explain how Dr chill entry broke the forth wall? I enjoyed it but I think it went over my head.

Only once as far as I could see and it was

Quote
That was said primarily to ease your worries, though, dear listener.

I presumed that was meant for the readers in general, as listeners to the story.But at the end it seemed as if directed to the client at the bar.

Yeah, I think it broke a 4th wall that was actually inside the 4th wall. That is, it was a story in a story, but you didn;t know it until the end. Was that a true breaking of the wall? mmmm, nah, I think. But I did enjoy it.