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Post your thoughts on this chapters here. (Chapter one to eight)

There is a glossary at the back of my copy
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This reminds me of Erin Morgenstern writing style.

The Air sullen with wet that was neither rain or snow

You can feel the Harsh Winter come alive reading this  ;D

Very First good chapter with the folk tale of Frost

I just say that I like the whole family what I've seen so far.

I thought Marina was selfish to have another baby with her health leaving her family behind.

I see both Anna and Vasya can see the Fae with a different perspective on them

Frost is rather dangerous with how dealt with the theif in the marketplace and with Kolya

A jewel of brilliant silver-blue , to call him?


I like how Frost is neither evil or good


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The combination of a historical setting and folklore works very well, and the setting feels believable -- though to be fair I don't know a lot about Russian history and culture at the time, so I'm not the best judge.

I do like how Arden doesn't shy away from the fact that it was a deeply patriarchal society, but still writes women who have a depth of character; strengths and weaknesses, different ways of seeing their control of their destiny, and so on. (This was something I nearly didn't mention because personally, it is something I've come to expect from sff writers in the modern age. But the fact is that there are, of course, still plenty of examples of this not being true.)

So far the story has kept a good pace, landing in important scenes but without not being afraid of skipping time to keep the story moving. The characterisation is strong, with the important people all standing out in some way, personality-wise, as to make them memorable. In fact, I can't think of a character whose portrayal I disliked.

I think the story didn't sweep me up fast, but grew on me a bit slower and around 15% into it I realised I was reading a lot faster than I thought.

Going to be interesting to keep going!
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The breadth of the story is surprising me. With the initial chapters, I expected everything to stay focused on Vasya and that little corner of the world. Instead, most of the book has been in Moscow. It’s clear this is Vasya’s story, but hey there’s a whole trilogy coming. It had better have a broad canvas.

What do you think: is the stranger (Frost?) the same one who got Vasya away from the one-eyed man? I don’t think so, but am wondering. One of you wrote about the fey. Is that an assumption that these folk are fey, or in the book and I missed it? The blue gem - the stranger clearly wants to track Vasya, but for good or bad purposes?

I love the setting. I love that roads are far worse than frozen rivers, and that people sleep on top of the oven. Life was hard, folks. And still is in many places.
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I don’t think the stranger in the woods is Frost

It’s an assumption on my part that there are Fae .
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Just finished reading first part. This is an interesting story but was fun and easy to read with the exception of names! I've always had trouble with remembering names and these folks have several names! I'm overwhelmed :) Another problem was, I thought the family was poor but it turned out father was the landlord. Interesting (or not depending on my bad English).

I though @Eclipse was spoilering with all his comments about Fey and Frost but he said he thinks so. Well, it never occured to me that the man in the market was Frost. He more seems like the villain.

I never got bored in the first chapter. Anna is an interesting character with all her demon vision. It will be fun to read more about her. I believe the secret of 2 men in the woods will reveal itself soon.

It is good to read a relatively short novel once in a while :) This will not take long and I might consider reading rest of the series if this continues to be fun.
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Yes characters with about three different nicknames can get a bit confusing at the start.

Spoiler for Hiden:
My guesses and assumptions are not always right
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I like this a lot. The writing reminds me of Morgenstern or Gaiman and Arden manages fantastically to create special atmospheres. With the forest and the east European setting it's a bit similar to Uprooted too.

I like Vasya and pity Anna and I'm curious what Sasha will do.

I agree with what the rest of you wrote (scope, Moscow's intrigue, patriarchy, etc) but I'm too knocked out by my tonsillitis to write more.
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