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Title: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 01, 2016, 08:22:28 PM
DRAGONS

(http://img01.deviantart.net/6cf2/i/2011/242/3/0/dragon_by_chevsy-d48brse.jpg)
Dragon by Chevsy (http://chevsy.deviantart.com/)

After last month's theme seemed like a punishment detail to some of you and because Christmas is coming, we decided to give you a treat. Something you will want to write about even with all the holiday action around you. Something grand. Something terrifying. Creatures you complained about being not depicted as they should be. A chance to exactly do this. Write about Dragons. Absolve yourself and picture them as the menacing, intelligent, magical, godlike terrors they are. Or not. It's - as always - up to you. :)

Rules:

1. This must be prose or poetry.
2. Must contain one or more dragons of any flavour you like. They should be crucial to the story. A dragon always influences the world around it.
3. Prose must be 500-1500 words long.
4. Poetry must be 100-750 words long.
5. One story per person or writing team (not per account).
6. You will be disqualified if you exceed the limits, full stop. That's why they're called limits.
7. Your entry can't be published somewhere else before.
8. This is a writing contest, not a "I have written something like this ten years ago" contest. So if you happen to have a story that fits one of the themes, I'd like it to have a mayor overhaul/edit. Work for it. ;)
9. Please add your story's word count and, if you have, your twitter handle.
10. Please put your story in [ spoiler ] tags to make the thread easier to handle. :) You can find them above the smileys next to the 'youtube' symbol.

If you want so submit your story anonymous you can do so by sending it in a personal message to @xiagan.

Entry will close Dec 31th 2016/Jan 1st, 2017 and voting will begin somewhere around the same time too.

All members are eligible to join. If you are not a member you can join here (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/register/). Sign up is free and all are welcome! :)

The winner will have their piece displayed on the main Fantasy Faction website sometime in the next months.

Please post your entry here (http://fantasy-faction.com/forum/(dec-2016)-dragons!/(dec-2016)-dragons!-submission-thread/).

Note: This thread is only for questions or discussing this month's writing contest. Good luck!

Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 01, 2016, 08:29:35 PM
THIS!!!!
Definitely worth waiting for.
I predict record-breaking number of submissions.  ;D

And I can write a poem.   8)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Rukaio_Alter on December 01, 2016, 08:33:36 PM
Wow! It really is Christmas!

Now, do I use that idea I had planned for the Guns and Dragons anthology or do I save it and come up with something new? Decisions decisions...
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 08:42:55 PM
Whaaaaat! After all the months I was begging for them to come, and now here they are, right when I'm in the mood for crime or vampires!

Omg anyway, going to binge through my pinterest folder until the spark lights.

Can't believe this is happening.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 01, 2016, 08:49:13 PM
See, Xia, we were right, they love it ;D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 01, 2016, 08:52:30 PM
See, Xia, we were right, they love it ;D
How foolish, to love a dragon.  8)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on December 01, 2016, 08:55:09 PM
Now to go find some super obscure variation of dragon to inspire my story...
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 01, 2016, 09:02:14 PM
Now to go find some super obscure variation of dragon to inspire my story...

Quote from: http://malazan.wikia.com/wiki/Korabas
Korabas, the Otataral Dragon, was the largest among the Eleint. She was also known as the 'Eye of Abnegation', the storm's centre where the stillness of matter becomes absolute. She was Otataral aspected (Otataral was a magic-deadening reddish ore. It not only prevented the use of magic, it also prevented mages from accessing or opening their Warrens and could drive them insane), and caused all life around her to die instantly. Once freed, the baring of an item made of Otataral would summon her to its location.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: night_wrtr on December 01, 2016, 09:02:33 PM
Now to go find some super obscure variation of dragon to inspire my story...

Found mine.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/79/68/d4/7968d4543fdcb494146ab6bff6bf2eff.jpg)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Eclipse on December 01, 2016, 09:13:06 PM
I might vote in this one, looking forward to reading some dragons!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on December 01, 2016, 10:23:24 PM
Even though I've already posted this picture in another thread I can't help but post it again here. I wonder why ;).

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c4/54/00/c45400b5e6e110c6d6ce323bcb6ea738.jpg)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 01, 2016, 10:48:36 PM
Mmmh, I've got a bit of an idea blooming, writing about a vet specialising in dragons, but not a lot of story detail so far.

Talking of hoarding :

http://www.geeknative.com/46840/uncommon-dragon-hoards/
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on December 01, 2016, 11:00:38 PM
Yes... Yes...YES!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 02, 2016, 12:00:06 AM
Mmmh, I've got a bit of an idea blooming, writing about a vet specialising in dragons, but not a lot of story detail so far.

Talking of hoarding :

http://www.geeknative.com/46840/uncommon-dragon-hoards/

Love the hoards!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 02, 2016, 12:21:12 AM
The cheese hoard is fab, very french, but that must be one hell of a smelly dragon.

I already have about 500 words in my story, it's third person past tense so far, for a change. I've even written a joke. I must be sick.

As a sort of ludicrous personal challenge, I'll try to make it so that I write the story with the largest amount of breeds of Dragons mentioned. Haha.

@Lady_Ty you better submit! No excuses this month!!

Edit : Back to first person. Man, you actually save SO MANY WORDS by using "I" instead of the various ways you can call your MC.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on December 02, 2016, 06:28:24 AM
The cheese hoard is fab, very french, but that must be one hell of a smelly dragon.

I already have about 500 words in my story, it's third person past tense so far, for a change. I've even written a joke. I must be sick.

As a sort of ludicrous personal challenge, I'll try to make it so that I write the story with the largest amount of breeds of Dragons mentioned. Haha.

@Lady_Ty you better submit! No excuses this month!!

Edit : Back to first person. Man, you actually save SO MANY WORDS by using "I" instead of the various ways you can call your MC.
Deinitely sick if jokes floating through brain.  Also sounds as though acute Trent Syndrome setting in.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: TOMunro on December 02, 2016, 07:16:11 PM
Oh! I like this one - I've got an idea incubating quite nicely.


a) I've always wondered about the ecology of dragons, like how did Smaug survive dormant and unfed for so many years, and where do they get their fire from and what use do they have for gold.


b) I was fascinated by the phrase "Tickling the Dragon's tail" used by Los Alamos scientists to describe dangerous experiments with nuclear cores - which led to one famous fatal accident.


I wouldn't want to give too many spoilers for where those two thoughts are taking me,  I just hope I can make it fly!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Bender on December 03, 2016, 04:07:34 PM
Does this have to be a new theme? As in can we take a existing fantasy book world and write our own fan submissions? Or maybe an alternate timeline story for an existing book and similar to that? As in just use the existing universe...but for a brand new story.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 03, 2016, 04:29:16 PM
Does this have to be a new theme? As in can we take a existing fantasy book world and write our own fan submissions? Or maybe an alternate timeline story for an existing book and similar to that? As in just use the existing universe...but for a brand new story.
Hi, it needs to be original.
We have a month (usually February) where we do fanfic, but for the rest of the year it must be wour own worldbuilding.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on December 03, 2016, 06:05:25 PM
Does this have to be a new theme? As in can we take a existing fantasy book world and write our own fan submissions? Or maybe an alternate timeline story for an existing book and similar to that? As in just use the existing universe...but for a brand new story.
Hi, it needs to be original.
We have a month (usually February) where we do fanfic, but for the rest of the year it must be wour own worldbuilding.
Really? I thought since it wasn't stated in the rules it would be fine. Interesting!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 03, 2016, 06:38:19 PM
@xiagan, big boss, what's the rule?
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 03, 2016, 07:32:46 PM
I'd rather hope to keep fanfic at bay in general, as it seems like it pre-digests a lot of the work in a story and essentially makes it harder for those who have to establish their own universe, and riskier for those who want to write in a universe and under-develop it because they assume readers know where they're at (and might well not).
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on December 03, 2016, 08:56:22 PM
I'd rather hope to keep fanfic at bay in general, as it seems like it pre-digests a lot of the work in a story and essentially makes it harder for those who have to establish their own universe, and riskier for those who want to write in a universe and under-develop it because they assume readers know where they're at (and might well not).

Thank you for summing up my feelings exactly. I don't want to miss out on good stories about an AWESOME topic because I've never read the author's world they're writing in. But then again I despise most forms of fanfic because they rarely live up to the original author's voice and it comes off as forced.

Unless we decide to do a Fifty Shades of Grey fanfic contest, in which I imagine almost every single story will hilariously involve something going terribly wrong in the rich guy's sex dungeon. I could get behind that.  ::)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 03, 2016, 09:10:15 PM
Oh hell yay, any excuse to write gory erotica! \o/





edit : OMG you deuce @Lordoftheword, now I have a weird craving to go and write dark dungeon sex, mind what you say, dammit, that's some infectious idea, you're like a inception bio-terrorist!

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/040/385/ce6.gif)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 03, 2016, 09:13:23 PM
@xiagan, big boss, what's the rule?

It's not in the rules, that's true. We just never had the case that somebody wanted to write fanfic in the contest before.
I'd like to keep fanfic in 'Fanfic February'.

There are thousands of forums, homepages and facebook groups dedicated to Fanfic and this forum is not one of those. Most writers here have the dream of getting published someday so naturally none of them writes Fanfic. And while I can understand that spending time in a favorite universe has its appeal, it's not what we do here. We don't use worlds, we create worlds. :)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 03, 2016, 09:32:25 PM
The key to happiness is to create a world, love it so dearly that you want to spend time in it, boom.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Eclipse on December 03, 2016, 09:38:10 PM
The key to happiness is to create a world, love it so dearly that you want to spend time in it, boom.

A flesh eater's paradise with gory erotic ? I don't won't to spend time in Nora's world with a bloke called Hades, help me!

I'm looking forward to your undead lich dragon Nora,not enough undead dragons in my opinion.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on December 03, 2016, 09:46:23 PM
If Nora pulls off an undead dragon, gory erotica piece, she's got my vote.  ;D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 03, 2016, 09:48:11 PM
I was going to write a piece about a vet for dragon being called onsite to save a great rare dragon, found injured, and have a happy ending.  :-[

Dammit people, you don't know what you want!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Eclipse on December 03, 2016, 09:52:06 PM
Give me undead zombie dragon sex! I want it now.have a three way with Hades added in to the mix.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 03, 2016, 09:53:04 PM
I was going to write a piece about a vet for dragon being called onsite to save a great rare dragon, found injured, and have a happy ending.  :-[

Dammit people, you don't know what you want!
:o
don't believe you!!!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 03, 2016, 09:53:51 PM
I was going to write a piece about a vet for dragon being called onsite to save a great rare dragon, found injured, and have a happy ending.  :-[

Dammit people, you don't know what you want!

I believed that storyline until I saw the words "happy ending"  ::)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 03, 2016, 09:57:42 PM
I thought that 50 shades fanfic would be a month in itself!

The fact that dragons are imaginary means that so is their junk. I'm pretty sure you don't actually want to see what I can do with undead dragon junk.

@Lanko : weelllllllll, I had started on a pretty shitty and traumatic beginning, for a change of pace.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 04, 2016, 04:58:22 PM
Slammed through a story that didn't challenge me in the slightest.
Not sure if I'll use it or not.
But if not, I'll post it somewhere here for fun.

I've got at least three other ideas.........
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 04, 2016, 05:06:43 PM
PM it to me @Jmack!


Someone burst a brain vein in a flash of genius and recommended 50 shades to me on GR.........
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 04, 2016, 05:30:12 PM
PM it to me @Jmack!

Done!

[edit] And boy did that have a bunch of typos. Enjoy, @Nora!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 04, 2016, 06:25:19 PM
Just letting everyone catch up on what's going on in my GR notifications right now....

(http://i.imgur.com/CdgK10O.png)

I wonder how much research you put into finding this... thing, @Lanko, you mangy dog! I will not read it, the summary is bad enough to scare me off.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 04, 2016, 06:50:33 PM
Thank you for the dragon story instant crit, @Nora.  :D
Yes, I do think I'll write at least one of the other ideas as well.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Eclipse on December 04, 2016, 06:51:19 PM
haha, that's so funny dragon porn it would have been better if it was zombie dragon porn
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 04, 2016, 07:04:21 PM
haha, that's so funny dragon porn it would have been better if it was zombie dragon porn

Found this. Not dragon, but the title is actually amusing:

(https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1357353010l/17209327.jpg)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 04, 2016, 07:28:30 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/74/db/7d/74db7d8472088a718650015a3a5b3fa8.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/23/3f/64/233f64dcc5dfafcdf76614e35ea1db0d.jpg)

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/582/tumblr_lmputme3co1qa6q7k_large.png)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: TOMunro on December 04, 2016, 07:33:26 PM
OK, I've posted. I had some fun with this one in a physicist-meets-fantasist kind of way.

Those who share a high school fondness for physics may enjoy spotting some very shallowly buried references.

(No Dragon erotica, or undead wyrms here though!)

Good luck to everyone else with their submissions.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 04, 2016, 07:34:23 PM
Aren't you on a roll these days!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady Ty on December 04, 2016, 09:20:29 PM
Thanks @Lanko now I have me a title. Dragon Sky High Club Does Dallas
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 05, 2016, 03:19:29 PM
kk.  i've got my idea.  it kind of clumped together, a chunk at a time, layering in all the goodness.

assuming, i can actually execute on the idea.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on December 05, 2016, 03:26:34 PM
OK, I've posted. I had some fun with this one in a physicist-meets-fantasist kind of way.

Those who share a high school fondness for physics may enjoy spotting some very shallowly buried references.

(No Dragon erotica, or undead wyrms here though!)

Good luck to everyone else with their submissions.

Fantastic short @TOMunro!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: tebakutis on December 05, 2016, 03:49:10 PM
kk.  i've got my idea.  it kind of clumped together, a chunk at a time, layering in all the goodness.

assuming, i can actually execute on the idea.

My story is also written in outline form. The challenge will be seeing if I can fit into 1500 words.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: TOMunro on December 05, 2016, 10:02:02 PM

Lordoftheword[/member]]@Lordoftheword (ftp://[member=41711) thank you.  I'm glad you liked it. I started by trying to write the story of Alba and shed A, but realised there was no way I could get that one down to the 1500 word limit, so I took the idea in this direction instead. 


I'm sure it will be a great month - possibly a record. 


I mean Dragons! what could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 05, 2016, 10:08:28 PM
I mean Dragons! what could possibly go wrong?

(https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1460737441ra/18781906.gif)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: TOMunro on December 05, 2016, 10:12:43 PM
Like the spinning dragon, can someone put me out of my misery and explain

How do I "mention" people in a message?

typing @Lanko just doesn't seem to work

using the ftp brackets looks fine in preview but seems to go wrong after that.

Lanko[/member]]@Lanko (ftp://[member=40739)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 05, 2016, 10:27:29 PM
Like the spinning dragon, can someone put me out of my misery and explain

How do I "mention" people in a message?

typing @Lanko just doesn't seem to work

using the ftp brackets looks fine in preview but seems to go wrong after that.

Lanko[/member]]@Lanko (ftp://[member=40739)

@TOMunro , the @ sign followed by name does work. In fact, your post does refer to Lanko.


Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 05, 2016, 10:46:22 PM
Yes, I got summoned fine.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 05, 2016, 11:13:52 PM
indeed.  it just doesn't show up in the preview, so you have to go on faith.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Raptori on December 05, 2016, 11:32:47 PM
Actually @m3mnoch the new tagging system displays a little popup if you type @ and then the first couple of letters of the user's name, so you can be sure you've got it right by doing that!  :P
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 05, 2016, 11:35:43 PM
Actually @m3mnoch the new tagging system displays a little popup if you type @ and then the first couple of letters of the user's name, so you can be sure you've got it right by doing that!  :P

oh, totes.  so, that's better, for sure.  but it still doesn't show up in the preview.

which, after displaying correctly in the dropdown, always makes me nervous it's actually working.  basically "confirmation!" in composition, followed by a "just kidding!" when you preview, followed by a "psych!!  it worked!" after you finally post.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 05, 2016, 11:43:25 PM
I'm getting slowly bored with my idea for this month. I guess that indeed there is not enough drama in it. It's like nice ideas with gentle overall plots can't stay interesting long enough for me to write them.  >:(
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 05, 2016, 11:54:25 PM
I'm getting slowly bored with my idea for this month. I guess that indeed there is not enough drama in it. It's like nice ideas with gentle overall plots can't stay interesting long enough for me to write them.  >:(

sounds like you need a gun to go off.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 06, 2016, 12:06:11 AM
I'm getting slowly bored with my idea for this month. I guess that indeed there is not enough drama in it. It's like nice ideas with gentle overall plots can't stay interesting long enough for me to write them.  >:(

sounds like you need a gun to go off.

Or a fire breath.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 06, 2016, 12:19:43 AM
No no, actions are easy to come up with. I mean inner drama. That ends badly one way or another. Some stakes. Mean stakes. I don't have any right now. I'm not feeling inspired by my Dragon Vet.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on December 06, 2016, 01:41:46 PM
No no, actions are easy to come up with. I mean inner drama. That ends badly one way or another. Some stakes. Mean stakes. I don't have any right now. I'm not feeling inspired by my Dragon Vet.

Enter dragon erectile dysfunction. How's that for stakes.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 06, 2016, 02:04:40 PM
Nah, I've gotten something up in the idea of a pit of despair, with a concept I brushed up in Mighty Beasts and a background of war. I think it'll be all dialogue and memories and no action at all. Just something reflective.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 06, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
No no, actions are easy to come up with. I mean inner drama. That ends badly one way or another. Some stakes. Mean stakes. I don't have any right now. I'm not feeling inspired by my Dragon Vet.

Enter dragon erectile dysfunction. How's that for stakes.

right?!

what the hell happens when you cure that bad boy?

"RUN!  RUN!!  THE DRAGON'S COMING!!! (http://www.badumtss.net/)"
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Crystallynnfairy on December 06, 2016, 11:08:10 PM
My initial idea was about an incontinent dragon.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 06, 2016, 11:11:36 PM
My initial idea was about an incontinent dragon.

Given where things are going you could do a premature dragon... if you catch my drift...
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: TOMunro on December 07, 2016, 09:39:29 PM
"Ring of Fire" about a dragon with an entirely different kind of problem that he wants to put behind him?

Or

"Monetzuma's Revenge" The curry addicted dragon and his brilliant impression of Darth Maul's light sabre?


On second thoughts, maybe not!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 10, 2016, 09:20:38 PM
Wahey, 2 submissions ;D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 10, 2016, 09:46:46 PM
Wahey, 2 submissions ;D
Let's extrapolate! 6 submissions in total!  :o ;D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 10, 2016, 09:56:21 PM
Wahey, 2 submissions ;D
Let's extrapolate! 6 submissions in total!  :o ;D

Mine is coming up, might even finish 90% of it by bed time. It's fucking dark though. First pov, present tense, almost entirely dialogue and introspection, I'm trawling through my darkest playlist as I write this thing up.

I'm not even trying for a win with this, just pouring my bad vibes in it like a voodoo doll.  :D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 10, 2016, 09:58:58 PM
I think after Christmas we'll get lots of submissions, people fed up of 'family time' and retreating to write ;D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 10, 2016, 09:59:21 PM
I'm not even trying for a win with this, just pouring my bad vibes in it like a voodoo doll.  :D
And when the bad vibes are out, you can write a pretty sunshine story in which a green fascist dragon forces humanity to finally give a fuck for the planet they live on. ;)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 10, 2016, 10:11:24 PM
I'm not even trying for a win with this, just pouring my bad vibes in it like a voodoo doll.  :D
And when the bad vibes are out, you can write a pretty sunshine story in which a green fascist dragon forces humanity to finally give a fuck for the planet they live on. ;)

Already did Alien overlords enslaving humans in order to make them work on the restoration of the planet, I'm contented!  :D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 10, 2016, 10:20:33 PM
I did finish one draft. Just haven't gotten back to my other three ideas. If you allow me to submit multiples under @Anonymous, we can get a bunch to vote for!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 10, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
I did finish one draft. Just haven't gotten back to my other three ideas. If you allow me to submit multiples under @Anonymous, we can get a bunch to vote for!
3 for 1?
Vote one, get one free?
Bundlevote?
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 10, 2016, 10:30:44 PM
I did finish one draft. Just haven't gotten back to my other three ideas. If you allow me to submit multiples under @Anonymous, we can get a bunch to vote for!
:P
Not even Atku 8)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 10, 2016, 10:33:35 PM
I did finish one draft. Just haven't gotten back to my other three ideas. If you allow me to submit multiples under @Anonymous, we can get a bunch to vote for!

Tssk, stop fishing for votes, Atku, come out of Jmack's body!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 10, 2016, 10:54:25 PM
I did finish one draft. Just haven't gotten back to my other three ideas. If you allow me to submit multiples under @Anonymous, we can get a bunch to vote for!

Tssk, stop fishing for votes, Atku, come out of Jmack's body!

I always thought it was Jmack that came out of Atku's body  ::) 

Infiltrating humanity, you know.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: J.R. Darewood on December 13, 2016, 09:05:40 AM
So that I don't forget when we open the critique thread in the distant and uncertain future, far, far away, here's what I struggled with in writing this month:


**I feel like I didn't quite capture the voice of my main character properly.  Oil and climate change will be foreign to Berber bedouins, but they won't completely incomprehensible.  I didn't quite capture that in-between balance of distant familiarity when discussing the "car with the seashell painted on it" and other conceptions of the English.  His response to the photograph tho, that was probably right on.

**Speaking of which, the bedouins don't practice human sacrifice, though their neighbors to the south do.  It wouldn't have been a sacrifice to Azi Dahaka though (who, by the way doesn't bring rain).  If they had wanted to bring rain, they would have consulted a soma to commune with the old gods, usually close relatives of the same animist Yourba pantheon found in voodoo.  They would have most likely buried the man alive as a sacrifice to appease the god the soma identified in exchange for the alternative future they desired.  I feel like this story might piss people who know about these things off.

**The description of the desert was lacking, sporadic and uninspired

**It kind of plods along with not much of an arc

**Here's what's driving me crazy most of all: the bit at the end about the dragon coming to tear apart the village if it's called w/o offering a sacrifice-- that kinda drops in out of nowhere.  I had thought about referring to it earlier on, when he first mentions the thing with the blood and the ancient words and whatnot, but it sort of messed with the flow and seemed like an infodump.  The other option was to just cut it out altogether and have my MC tie himself to the post b/c his people need the rain that bad.  That actually might be even *more* powerful.  If I can find some time before the end of the month to write OTHER THAN WHEN IT'S 3AM B/C MY LIFE SUCKS then I might just go back and fix that. [edit: I think i fixed this one]

**The balance of description at the end.  I'd actually waffled on keeping or removing that second-to-last paragraph where I describe the dragon in greater detail, jumping straight to my MC's only dialogue. I'm not sure whether I got things right in ramping tension up or just going too far with it.

So those are my thoughts ATM, saved for critique day!

Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 13, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
Damn. My idea seemed so nifty and gloomily written, but through the re-reading process to reshape the plot-line and write the ending, I really struggle with what I've written. It feels like a beginner version of what I could have written. It feels like rereading submissions a year and a half old. Super weird.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Rukaio_Alter on December 13, 2016, 05:00:02 PM
Damn. My idea seemed so nifty and gloomily written, but through the re-reading process to reshape the plot-line and write the ending, I really struggle with what I've written. It feels like a beginner version of what I could have written. It feels like rereading submissions a year and a half old. Super weird.
Yeah, that happens to me all the time. I write up a ton one night and feel great about it. Then I look it over the next morning and the pacing's all wonky, the jokes fall flat and it just reads like something's off.

My advice? Give it a bit of time to settle before looking it over again. Usually, on a third read, it turns up not as bad as you think and it's easier to edit without that soul-crushing feeling of 'Everything I did sucked' hanging over your head.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 13, 2016, 05:39:10 PM
Damn. My idea seemed so nifty and gloomily written, but through the re-reading process to reshape the plot-line and write the ending, I really struggle with what I've written. It feels like a beginner version of what I could have written. It feels like rereading submissions a year and a half old. Super weird.
Yeah, that happens to me all the time. I write up a ton one night and feel great about it. Then I look it over the next morning and the pacing's all wonky, the jokes fall flat and it just reads like something's off.

My advice? Give it a bit of time to settle before looking it over again. Usually, on a third read, it turns up not as bad as you think and it's easier to edit without that soul-crushing feeling of 'Everything I did sucked' hanging over your head.

I've gone for a brutal revision, copy pasted the thing in a new page and rewrote it in large chunks. I think the idea behind the whole story is too emo to ever be good though. So we'll see, I'll do as you say and let it take a day off!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Roelor on December 16, 2016, 02:59:39 PM
Never even thought of writing about dragons. Decided to write it from the Dragons POV in first person, which is my second try. Thoroughly enjoyed the challenge and to read all the submitted stories so far. I feel so, uncreative compared to many of the other stories!

I wanna read more dragons now!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 16, 2016, 06:20:51 PM
Hi, everyone! On the way back from business trip, I wrote a second dragon story. I've got at least one more working it's way through the brain. I'll have to post them all at some point.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 17, 2016, 01:35:40 AM
Pfiuu, just finished writing my first story just in order to send it through to some supporting person for pre-review.

I should be sleeping, but hey, sleep is for the weak right?

What I find funny is that this month my first, finished idea, starts depressing and stays pretty gloomy, but has a real happy ending! Nobody actively dies or anything!
But then I've started writing a second story, which I've never done, so far, which starts well enough and ends in pretty justified bloodshed. It's like I can't stop myself.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 21, 2016, 12:10:48 PM
Well!

Despite my misgivings, I've chosen to submit the happy ending story, edited as it is. Action free mind to mind dialogue, here we come! Gotta try my hand at all the weird stuff.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: J.R. Darewood on December 24, 2016, 07:20:48 AM

@Nora, I love how

your idea of a happy ending is one where your MC gets eaten

**DO NOT READ ABOVE SPOILER UNLESS YOU HAVE ALREADY FINISHED NORA'S STORY**
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 24, 2016, 09:03:26 AM
Hummmm.... What gives you this impression @Bradley Darewood !?
Soaring means rising in the sky.

in the ending the great dragon offers to carry the MC away and the Mc accepts. They both leave a war torn country.

I obviously need to do some editing...
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: xiagan on December 27, 2016, 10:14:20 AM
So.. you got some stories to post in the last few days? :)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 27, 2016, 02:37:45 PM
So.. you got some stories to post in the last few days? :)

right?!

it's why i'm so quiet around here this week.  i need to write and polish about 7k words before the end of the month.  luckily, i took the week off work.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: JMack on December 27, 2016, 03:05:24 PM
Posting my story today.
Sharing two stories around here over Christmas, there's a clear preference for one of them.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 27, 2016, 03:27:24 PM
So.. you got some stories to post in the last few days? :)
That's right - everyone should now have time after all the parties hehe
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: J.R. Darewood on December 28, 2016, 04:55:40 AM
Hummmm.... What gives you this impression @Bradley Darewood !?
Soaring means rising in the sky.

in the ending the great dragon offers to carry the MC away and the Mc accepts. They both leave a war torn country.

I obviously need to do some editing...

So here's why I interpreted things the way I did.  I actually waffled on it at first, thinking... is that what happened? AGAIN THESE ARE LEGIT SPOILERS< DON"T READ THIS IF YOU HAVEN"T READ NORAS PIECE
I figured you were using "soar" was a metaphor for the spirit flying away to heaven.  It didn't quite land right, so I would have preferred a different word if you *actually* meant for it to be death. But here's why I left thinking what I did:

#1-- You have a reputation for the dark and somber
#2-- An ouroboros is a snake eating it's own tail, a symbol for infinity, for death and rebirth.  Not so much a dragon, but I figured you were going with a flexible definition.  the theme of death and rebirth fits perfectly with the MC's death, and makes your choice of name metaphorical.
#3-- You've described the ouroboros as being incredibly long, it's slinking around in the darkness like a cave, there's no indication that it *can* fly, and if it could the physical dynamics of something so long flying seemed untenable
#4-- Your MC was in the middle of committing suicide and the Ouroboros was discussing eating her
#5-- Her previous dragon died, and she's depressed, and he's taking her "where your dragon wanted you, somewhere far away, where there is hope still of a better life." after saying that courting pain is no way of living. The whole convo and the existential ennui that overrides the whole discussion made me think of dying and leaving it all behind.  In my imagination, the ouroboros was reuniting her with her dragon by eating her.
#6-- we didn't dwell on the war so much (and that leaving it was even an option) as this overriding depression, the frame we're placed in is a vaguely defined sense of listless unhappiness (conveyed in tone moreso than descriptions of war) and death, as opposed to war and escape.

Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 28, 2016, 11:02:38 AM
Ok, that's really funny, @Bradley Darewood. It reminds me a lot of high and middle school literature classes, when we would pore over stories and interpret things, analyse metaphors and hope to find the secret meaning of the author.
Incidentally this was one of the reasons I never considered writing for myself despite my love for reading. I just figured that this much 'double thinking' made stuff too hard. But quite a few stories seemed to be simple, and I honestly felt like the teacher was digging for stuff that wasn't there...
'why are the leaves red and the sky burning bright?' - 'because it was! that's it, author probably didn't mean anything more by it!' - 'but it's our job to see if...'
I think this is my first case of over interpretation of my work, and given you mostly based it off my reputation, I find it extremely flattering.

So, no, indeed, all I describe is first degree. The O can fly, as it's described as a sub specie of Great Worm, and :
"As a vet I specialised in Lóngs and Worms, fascinated as I am by the intricacies of their innards–the organic equivalent of the finest clockwork, allowing flight without wings."

She (though no gender is provided, funny, you're the second one to jump for female) is indeed depressed, and doesn't see any viable escape from the war. Death could be an escape, and she'd probably welcome it. But the discussion with the Ouroboros is sincere, and the O is being curious. It's intrigued by her mindset, her dialogue, and her ability to converse so well through the emphatic touch. It chooses to reveal itself, and again she reacts well, she isn't scared, she is fascinated.
The O was about to leave, to start over, because everything died from the war where they are, and just takes the MC along. It's truly hopeful...

At least as hopeful as I can make it. But again, in the end, if the double reading makes it a dark piece for you, and you like it best like, then by all means, read it that way!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: J.R. Darewood on December 28, 2016, 11:12:33 AM
At least as hopeful as I can make it. But again, in the end, if the double reading makes it a dark piece for you, and you like it best like, then by all means, read it that way!

Haha, it's probably a personality defect on my part. I'm probably just a very dark person.  I have a hard time even watching disney films without reading something sinister into them....

PS-- funnily enough I have two tattoos: one of a dragon and one of an ouroboros.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Rukaio_Alter on December 28, 2016, 02:07:51 PM
Personally, whenever people start reading deeper and intelligent stuff into my work that I didn't intend, I just bluff and pretend that was entirely what I was going for.

"Er... Yeah, that's right. The pie in the face is totally representative of the effects of Marxism around the world. That's definitely what I was aiming for. It certainly wasn't a cheap joke or anything. Good job on you for noticing." *Looks around shiftily*
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 28, 2016, 02:58:22 PM
Personally, whenever people start reading deeper and intelligent stuff into my work that I didn't intend, I just bluff and pretend that was entirely what I was going for.

"Er... Yeah, that's right. The pie in the face is totally representative of the effects of Marxism around the world. That's definitely what I was aiming for. It certainly wasn't a cheap joke or anything. Good job on you for noticing." *Looks around shiftily*

That's inevitable, every author will have such tales from readers. Sometimes we do put it there, but not consciously, but as a subconscious reflection of our own interests/experiences outside of fiction. Sometimes it's totally something only seen by someone else due to their own interests/experiences and it matches something not intended by the author by pure coincidence.

I gave you one deeper analysis on a story, I also received for mine in other ocasions... it doesn't take long to see reviews for works out there praising or criticizing something totally outside of authorial intent, from Tolkien to GRRM... People still believe Tolkien's orcs and the Ent stuff were a criticism of industrialization. Or blogs saying how Uprooted is an abusive relationship story, when the characters were nowhere close to anything ressembling such thing or saying how Game of Thrones is a work worshiping fascism.

Can't be helped, things are just too subjective to each individual. The best approach is indeed like how the big names, smile and nod for unintentional success and ignore non-sense criticism  ::)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Alex Hormann on December 28, 2016, 10:07:07 PM
Woo hoo, I managed to get something submitted! And it's prose after several months of poetry.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 29, 2016, 08:27:50 AM
Got an idea and put down 50 words so far ;D

Let's see what happens.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Nora on December 29, 2016, 10:38:15 AM
Got an idea and put down 50 words so far ;D

Let's see what happens.

You're not taking things too seriously at least!  ::)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 29, 2016, 11:45:30 AM
Got an idea and put down 50 words so far ;D

Let's see what happens.

You're not taking things too seriously at least!  ::)

Some people have their bursts of inspiration and get a story submitted in three days after the theme was given. For me it's the reverse and this burst happens at the last three days, save the odd exception now and then  ::)

Maybe I should make this a New Year's resolution... Or not, it's kinda of becoming a FF traditional event by now  ::)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 29, 2016, 02:56:36 PM
*phew*

i got a first draft of that book smugglers submission wrapped up yesterday.  percolating on changes today while i write my dragon story for here.

lookit me!  spittin' fantasy words like machine gun fire over here!  rata-tat-tat-tat-tat!!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 30, 2016, 12:00:09 AM
totally busted that badboy out. 

*flexes*

1500 words of dragony goodness, with the usual sweet treat of a twist at the end.

now, imma sit on it for a day or so.  make sure i like it as much tomorrow.  then, post it.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on December 30, 2016, 04:54:25 AM
I wrote a bit more tonight and increased my output in 800%. It went to a surprising direction.

800% meaning I have... 400 words.

Yes, let me boast big and enormous percentages to feel good, like a good politician pretending to have done some herculean effort for the good of all and that big number means he knows exactly what he's doing  ::)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on December 31, 2016, 05:40:33 PM
hrm.  posted with relatively few changes.  i must have been in the flow.

anyhow, i'm in!!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: NightWrite on December 31, 2016, 06:53:37 PM
So I've been real busy and sick the past few weeks. Which led to me waking up this morning stressed about the last day of the month with nothing posted. Only for me to turn on my laptop, go into my contest sub-folder, and find I wrote a story in the beginning of the month and forgot about it :-[.

Well I definitely got the 'put it aside and look at it later with fresh eyes' effect I was going for.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on December 31, 2016, 10:37:54 PM
^ @NightWrite, ;D

Yay 14 - plus Lanko, which will submit tomorrow evening ;)
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 01, 2017, 08:07:21 PM
Anyone else?

@Lanko, are you still submitting? ;D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 01, 2017, 10:49:25 PM
Ugh, totally didn't find time this month between freelancing, my job, working on my novel and those damned holidays. I'm so bummed out I missed on this submission, as I had a flurry of ideas and just never got them on the page! :(

But I'm stoked for next month's topic of Urban Fantasy, and even more excited to read all of yours.  ;D Good luck all!!!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 01, 2017, 11:00:13 PM
Anyone else?

@Lanko, are you still submitting? ;D

Yep! Need a "little" more time!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: ScarletBea on January 02, 2017, 06:38:00 AM
It's already the 2nd...
But, parties and all, ok, I'm feeling nice - @Lordoftheword, if you think you can do it in one day, I'll also keep it open for you ;D
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 02, 2017, 04:36:59 PM
I'm in  :)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lordoftheword on January 02, 2017, 09:03:49 PM
It's already the 2nd...
But, parties and all, ok, I'm feeling nice - @Lordoftheword, if you think you can do it in one day, I'll also keep it open for you ;D

Thanks @ScarletBea! But I won't be able to send something in by the end of the day. Nothing that I can be proud of anyway haha ^^
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 03, 2017, 03:47:54 PM
On request I submitted a minor revision. Someone suggested the Anne McCaffrey ref was distracting or something. Not a huge difference.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 03, 2017, 03:51:53 PM
On request I submitted a minor revision. Someone suggested the Anne McCaffrey ref was distracting or something. Not a huge difference.

word.  holler when you want me to re-publish those ebooks.  don't worry about effort because it's just a button-push thing.  *click* *whirrrr* published!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 03, 2017, 03:54:55 PM
No yanking of levers? No stomping on footpedals or clicking knobs and dials into the red? No pause while steam pressure builds or louvers are cranked to their open and locked position? Why, that's no fun at all. You don't even have to wear brass-rimmed goggles of camel-leather or wide-cuffed gloves? Sort of ... sad, really. The new versions up already.
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: m3mnoch on January 03, 2017, 04:37:20 PM
No yanking of levers? No stomping on footpedals or clicking knobs and dials into the red? No pause while steam pressure builds or louvers are cranked to their open and locked position? Why, that's no fun at all. You don't even have to wear brass-rimmed goggles of camel-leather or wide-cuffed gloves? Sort of ... sad, really. The new versions up already.

well.  technically, there're a few chains, pulleys, and gears.  but, the waterwheel actually does most of the work.  that, and my army of indigenous ferrets.

new version should be posted!
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: The Gem Cutter on January 03, 2017, 11:15:51 PM
Merci beaucoup
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Roelor on January 11, 2017, 03:39:01 PM
Is there gonna be a critique thread? Or is that after voting?
Title: Re: [DEC 2016] - Dragons! - Discussion Thread
Post by: Lanko on January 11, 2017, 03:49:11 PM
Is there gonna be a critique thread? Or is that after voting?

After voting finishes.